So i have another question turns out i got a 2nd shiny tyrunt 2 boxes after my first one. Now my question is on this one the judge said its stats are outstanding but only mentiond its hp, spc attack, and spc def. Which one is better the superior 1 with 4 ivs that cant be beat or the outstanding one with 3 ivs that cant be beat?
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Breeding Perfect Pokemon in Pokemon X&Y
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More info is needed than this. Its important to know which IVs are flawless as well as having a good idea what your overall IVs are.
I'm really new to breeding and need some help. I've followed the guides but now I'm stuck at 4 perfect IVs, with a undesirable 31 in SpAtk from the original Ditto I used. I'm breeding Larvitars and I'm assuming I want 31/31/31/x/31/31 right? I have half a box with each of these 4 IVs:
31/x/31/31/31/x
31/31/31/31/x/x
and one male 31/x/x/31/31/31
And half a box with these 3 IVs:
31/x/31/x/31/x
31/x/31/x/x/31
x/x/31/31/x/31
Is there a solution in there on what to breed to keep moving forward? Where do I go from here? My only 3 IV Dittos are:
31/x/31/31/x/x
x/x/x/31/31/31
31/31/x/31/x/x
All have perfect SpAtk. Should I go catch some more Dittos? I think I will do that while I wait on a reply.
31/x/31/31/31/x
31/31/31/31/x/x
and one male 31/x/x/31/31/31
And half a box with these 3 IVs:
31/x/31/x/31/x
31/x/31/x/x/31
x/x/31/31/x/31
Is there a solution in there on what to breed to keep moving forward? Where do I go from here? My only 3 IV Dittos are:
31/x/31/31/x/x
x/x/x/31/31/31
31/31/x/31/x/x
All have perfect SpAtk. Should I go catch some more Dittos? I think I will do that while I wait on a reply.
Depends which stats are most important to you. The outstanding one will have better stats over all, even if it has less IVs, but if the 4 IV one has perfects in the stats you want, and the non-perfect ones you don't care too much about then it might be better. (This is assuming you're using the pokemon for battle, and not for breeding)
If you want to get rid of the SpAtk stat, breed with the male one with 31/x/31/x/x/31 spread and give it a Sp.Atk power item (I forget which one it is exactly) since it will pass on the imperfect IV stat. Once you're back to 3-4 IVs with non-perfect SpAtk then you can look at moving forward. Ofcourse by then your available pokemon will have changed so it's hard to say what to do. If we ignore the perfect SpAtk then you'll want to breed these two, assuming they're of different genders:
31/31/31/31/x/x
31/x/x/31/31/31
Basically you want the possibility of all five IVs being passed down to be perfect, so you don't want any stat to be imperfect on both parents. This is the simpler way, but you will end up with some eggs that have very few IVs due to luck of the draw. ie the worst you could get with the above two is 1 perfect IV, with the 4 imperfect stats and 1 perfect stat getting passed down via destiny knot and the random stat not being perfect. On the other hand the best you could get is a six perfect baby with 5 perfects being passed down from the parents and the random being perfect as well. Remember though that these are the two most extreme cases, you're more likely to end up with 3s and 4s. If you get a 5 then you'll want to swap it in for one of the two in there depending on its gender.
That's a really detailed post and I wanted to specifically point out that you have made suggesting a solution really simple for me.
If you're specifically looking to maximize your chances at getting a 5 IV with 31/31/31/x/31/31, then your best bet is to breed 31/31/31/31/x/x female with your 31/x/x/31/31/31 male. Treat them both like 3 IV eggs though, and ignore Sp. Atk IVs. Once you start getting 4 (desirable) perfect IVs Larvitars, begin using them in place of the parents.
Yes I am looking for a competitive 31/31/31/x/31/31. I have the nature and ability I want on every Larvitar I'm using.
So if I put these two in
31/31/31/31/x/x
31/x/x/31/31/31
I am essentially just hatching until I get a 5 perfect 31s with 4 desirable 31s or a 4 with perfect/desirable and swap it out for one of the parents with 31 SpAtk? By having both parents with 31 SpAtk, does that mean I'm less likely to get the 5 stats that I want (not SpAtk)? Or can it simply be ignored and treated as x even though it's 31 since it's irrelevent? I think I'm answering my own question here but want to make sure.
So if I put these two in
31/31/31/31/x/x
31/x/x/31/31/31
I am essentially just hatching until I get a 5 perfect 31s with 4 desirable 31s or a 4 with perfect/desirable and swap it out for one of the parents with 31 SpAtk? By having both parents with 31 SpAtk, does that mean I'm less likely to get the 5 stats that I want (not SpAtk)? Or can it simply be ignored and treated as x even though it's 31 since it's irrelevent? I think I'm answering my own question here but want to make sure.
Hopefully this is not against the rules but does anyone have a junk pokemon they can trade me with pokerus i can offer a regular male tyrunt with 6 perfect ivs for it
You can safely ignore the 31 Sp.Atk; it being a higher IV won't affect your chances of passing down other IVs, you're just waiting on luck of the draw. Basically treat every hatched Larvitar as having a worthless Sp.Atk stat and breed accordingly.
There is a "Simple Requests" thread for stuff like that, but send me a PM with your friend code and I'll send you a pokerus mon for a junk anything (Save your 6 perfect IV mons for trading with other people).
Pretty much. If you don't care about nature (unlikely, but still) then you can use the Atk power item to force the Atk, but you're up to the mercy of the RNG gods for nature in that case. Basically Destiny Knot and Everstone are the way to go. Good luck!
On a side note: I need to get around to getting a Pokemon with PokeRus... I've never actually had one before O.o but it seems amazing for EV training.
Nice!
Maybe include 1-2 more likelihoods:
- Chance of breeding a x6 IV Pokemon from two x5 parents with different imperfect IVs with Power Item + Destiny Knot
and maybe:
- Chance of breeding a x6 IV Pokemon from two x5 parents with the same imperfect IVs with Power Item + Destiny Knot
The first of them would be most usefull to see if it's easier to go though the Power-item "trick" to get the first 6x Pokemon, and then use the 11/384 probability. Instead of going straight for the 1/128 probability, or the 1/196 for the second likelihood.
I also think the following calculation is flawed:
Chance of breeding a x6 IV Pokemon off of two x5 parents with different imperfect IVs:
1/128 (1/2 Correct IV inheritance * 1/2 Correct IV inheritance *1/32 Max IV generated)
Here you have calculated the likelihood of getting x6 Pokemon given that the non-inherid IV is one of the perfect IVs. This only happens 4 out of 6 times. 2 out of 6 times the non-inherid stat will be one of the potential imperfect IVs.
This is more correct (i think):
[4/6 * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) *1/32 (Max IV generated)] + [2/6 * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) *1/32 (Max IV generated)] = 1/96
EDIT: similarly things can be said about the probability of getting 5x from two 4x parents with different imperfect IVs, but the probability is already relatively high, so I don't feel like calculating that.
EDIT2: I took the time to calculate 6x with two 5x parents with different imperfect IVs with a Power Item;
[4/5 (chance of non-inherid IV being perfect on both parents) * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) * 1/32 (Max IV generated)] + [1/5 (chance of non-inherid IV being potentially imperfect) * 1/32 (Max IV generated)] = 3/160 (~1/53)
Chance of breeding a x6 IV Pokemon off of two x5 parents with different imperfect IVs:
1/128 (1/2 Correct IV inheritance * 1/2 Correct IV inheritance *1/32 Max IV generated)
Here you have calculated the likelihood of getting x6 Pokemon given that the non-inherid IV is one of the perfect IVs. This only happens 4 out of 6 times. 2 out of 6 times the non-inherid stat will be one of the potential imperfect IVs.
This is more correct (i think):
[4/6 * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) *1/32 (Max IV generated)] + [2/6 * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) *1/32 (Max IV generated)] = 1/96
EDIT: similarly things can be said about the probability of getting 5x from two 4x parents with different imperfect IVs, but the probability is already relatively high, so I don't feel like calculating that.
EDIT2: I took the time to calculate 6x with two 5x parents with different imperfect IVs with a Power Item;
[4/5 (chance of non-inherid IV being perfect on both parents) * 1/2 (Correct IV inheritance) * 1/32 (Max IV generated)] + [1/5 (chance of non-inherid IV being potentially imperfect) * 1/32 (Max IV generated)] = 3/160 (~1/53)
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Very nice guide, Mantyke!
On the "Situations to consider/avoid ... ," could you please label which combinations aren't good at which situation? I don't mean to criticize, but it would help clarify which items do and do not fit in each situation much easier.
Otherwise, thanks for the guide Mantyke!
On the "Situations to consider/avoid ... ," could you please label which combinations aren't good at which situation? I don't mean to criticize, but it would help clarify which items do and do not fit in each situation much easier.
Otherwise, thanks for the guide Mantyke!
correct me if i'm wrong
i have a larvesta (female, everstone) 31/x/31/31/31/31 and a larveta (male, desinty knot) 31/x/31/31/31/31
the chances of me getting 31/31/31/31/31/31 would be higher? or should both parent must have 5 perfect iv but with diff stat for my chances to go higher?
i have a larvesta (female, everstone) 31/x/31/31/31/31 and a larveta (male, desinty knot) 31/x/31/31/31/31
the chances of me getting 31/31/31/31/31/31 would be higher? or should both parent must have 5 perfect iv but with diff stat for my chances to go higher?
Getting a perfect 31x6 with 31x5 parents isn't as high as 31x6 parents. Basically:
31x5 parents you depend on ONE specific inheritance spread (1/6 chance) times the chance the non-inherited stat is perfect (1/32), for total 1/192 chance.
Using a Power item (say a Power Belt) increases the chance of getting the right inheritance from 1/6 to 1/5, but you still depend on the 1/32 chance, for total 1/160 chance.
With both parents at 31x6, or even one at 31x6 (holding a power item) and one at 31x5 means you only depend on the 1/32 chance the non-inherited stat is perfect.
I have a question:
If I have a Justified female absol, does the ability of the male affect offspring?
For example, I'm aiming for 31/31/31/31/31/31 offspring, and I have:
Female, Justified: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Male, Justified: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Male, Super Luck: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Which male would give me the highest chance of getting a justified absol with 31/31/31/31/31/31
If I have a Justified female absol, does the ability of the male affect offspring?
For example, I'm aiming for 31/31/31/31/31/31 offspring, and I have:
Female, Justified: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Male, Justified: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Male, Super Luck: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Which male would give me the highest chance of getting a justified absol with 31/31/31/31/31/31
Only the females ability matters in this case, meaning that the Super Luck male is the best to use.
I have a question. I am trying to breed a slugma and a phantump. According to serebii, they are in the same egg group. But when I go to the daycare and deposit them, the guy says they don't get along well. I already made sure that they are the right genders. Can anybody explain what I am doing wrong?
edit: NVM, realized that this means it will take longer to make an egg. Sorry, but I am new to this!
edit: NVM, realized that this means it will take longer to make an egg. Sorry, but I am new to this!
Don't get along means they have a 20% chance of producing an egg (different species of the same OT).
Seems to get along means they have a 50% chance of producing an egg (same species with the same OT, or two different species with different OT's).
They get along very well means they have a 70% chance of producing an egg (same species with different OT's).
Seems to get along means they have a 50% chance of producing an egg (same species with the same OT, or two different species with different OT's).
They get along very well means they have a 70% chance of producing an egg (same species with different OT's).
This many be a stupid question, but I'd rather ask then not knowing for sure. Everytime I try to breed newly hatched Pokemon with others for better IV, the "Pokemon don't seem it get long that well" even though the two are completely compatiable. This makes the entire IV breeding process so much longer. Does anything else have this problem or am I the only one having problems with this process?
shutupnrock8, that is normal for two different species from the same original trainer. It is in fact the slowest way to get eggs (20% chance of an egg every 256 steps). To get faster egg spawns:
1. Use two different species from different OTs (50% chance)
2. Use two of the same species from the same OT (50% chance)
3. Use two of the same species from different OTs (70% chance).
Its for this reason that if you want to chain breed for IVs you want to switch to using the same species as soon as reasonably possible.
*edit* corrected percentages
1. Use two different species from different OTs (50% chance)
2. Use two of the same species from the same OT (50% chance)
3. Use two of the same species from different OTs (70% chance).
Its for this reason that if you want to chain breed for IVs you want to switch to using the same species as soon as reasonably possible.
*edit* corrected percentages
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ok for some reason, I am having issues passing down IV's.
I am trying for a timid gastly by breeding a slugma and gastly:
Slugma w/ Destiny Knot
IV's:
31/x/x/31/x/31
Gastly w/ Power Belt
IV's
31/x/31/x/x/31
Hatched Gastly had:
31/x/x/31/x/31
Is there something wrong? Or am I not allowed to use destiny knot and power (edit: belt) at the same time?
I am trying for a timid gastly by breeding a slugma and gastly:
Slugma w/ Destiny Knot
IV's:
31/x/x/31/x/31
Gastly w/ Power Belt
IV's
31/x/31/x/x/31
Hatched Gastly had:
31/x/x/31/x/31
Is there something wrong? Or am I not allowed to use destiny knot and power (edit: belt) at the same time?
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Nothing is wrong, you are likely just getting unlucky breaks.
You can use the Destiny Knot and the Power items at the same time, with only 4 of the 5 IVs being chose at random (the 5th is the Power item IV).
At this point early on in breeding, I'd highly suggest using Destiny Knot + Everstone. If you use your current scenario, then you would have to breed even more for your recommended nature. But that is just my opinion.
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