Breeding Perfect Pokemon in Pokemon X&Y

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So, I'm breeding 2 Perfect5 scythers.


I just 800d checked that they were

15 eggs straight of 4s.

If it doesn't hit SpA it should be a 5 right? Or can knot pick the same stat twice?

Unless I'm missing something, knot is 5, so it should only be a 1/3 (2/6) chance of hitting SpA?

I know RNG is RNG, but there's also a chance I'm missing something
 
I'm bad at how this math works and I'm trying to find out how futile this is:

I have a female Lucario - 31/31/31/x/31/x, Adamant with Justified, holding an Everstone.
I also have a male Smeargle with Bullet Punch and Crunch, 31/31/31/x/31/31, holding a Destiny Knot.

I am capable of producing the Adamant Prankster (HA, which is my preference) Riolu with a 31/31/31/x/31/31 spread, Bullet Punch, and Crunch.

However, if my math is right, the chances of just getting the right IV spread:

"Chance of breeding a x5 IV Pokemon from x5 and x4 IV parents:
1/12 (1/2 Correct IV inherited * 1/6 Irrelevant stat not inherited)"

Is one in twelve, or 8.333333%. However, I'm trying to get a more viable mother, a *female* Adamant Prankster Riolu with 31/31/31/x/31/31.

If there is a 12.5% chance of female and a 60% chance of passing down a Hidden Ability, then (12.5 x .6) leaves a 7.5% of Female Pranksters, and 7.5% of 8.333333% is .625, or 1/160, right?

If I am dealing with 1/160 for getting my intended result (which I feel isn't the case, I can barely even get females at the 1/8 ratio promised), is there *anything* I can do to speed this up?
 
powurz said:
If I am dealing with 1/160 for getting my intended result (which I feel isn't the case, I can barely even get females at the 1/8 ratio promised), is there *anything* I can do to speed this up?
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Produce a male Lucario with 31/31/31/x/31/31 with your egg moves, which will increase the rate you get eggs in the daycare. Other than that, not a whole lot you can do.
 
Sorry as this is probably a repeat question...but I'm getting frustrated. If I have the following

HP/At/De/SpA/SpD/Spe

31/31/x/x/31/31 female swinub with everstone (jolly)
x/31/31/x/31/31 male swinub with destiny knot

what are my chances of getting a 31/31/31/x/31/31 swinub? Is there a better combination I can use?
I've been through around 40 eggs with no luck. Also how is it possible that I've been getting some eggs with only 2 perfect IV categories? This doesn't make sense to me with destiny knot....
 
Statler said:
Sorry as this is probably a repeat question...but I'm getting frustrated. If I have the following

HP/At/De/SpA/SpD/Spe

31/31/x/x/31/31 female swinub with everstone (jolly)
x/31/31/x/31/31 male swinub with destiny knot

what are my chances of getting a 31/31/31/x/31/31 swinub? Is there a better combination I can use?
I've been through around 40 eggs with no luck. Also how is it possible that I've been getting some eggs with only 2 perfect IV categories? This doesn't make sense to me with destiny knot....
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Your chances are 1/24, as its 1/6 (chance that SpA isnt picked) * 1/2 (Chance that 31 Hp is picked) * 1/2 (Chance that 31 def is picked).

Also, it is indeed possible that you're getting 2 IV ones, as if the bad hp, bad def, and bad SpA are all picked, 2 perfect stats are guaranteed and the final one is a toss up. This is the same chance as getting a 5 IV one, if I'm not mistaken.
 
Statler said:
Ah i see thanks for the quick reply, I guess I've just been really unlucky with it so far. I appreciate the info!
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If you're really struggling hard with that final product, I would recommend looking into the advanced section of the guide and try using a Power Item over an Everstone, provided both parents are the correct nature. It may be big help speeding up the process, though it will require an additional step.
 
How to breed for Hidden Power in Pokemon X&Y

I was asked this in PM, so I'm just going to paste my answer. The example is Hidden Power Ice.

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Assuming that you have a female parent with the desired nature and at least 31/x/x/31/31/31, the easiest way (it's still a pain) is to catch a male Pokemon in the same egg group with 30 defense (Sturdy Body characteristic is helpful).

1. Attach a Power Belt to the male (guarantees passing the defense IV) and breed with your female holding Destiny Knot.
2. Replace the male parent whenever you hatch something better.
3. Once you have a 31/x/30/31/x/x (or equivalent) male, attach Everstone to the female and Destiny Knot to the male.
4. Keep replacing parents until both are 31/x/30/31/31/31. Use Metalkid's IV calculator to check for a 30 defense IV from here.
5. With flawless parents, the probability of flawless Hidden Power Ice will be 1/6 * 1/2 = 1/12.
6. The quickest way to check is to first ask the guy in Anistar. Check HP Dragon hatchlings in case they are 31/odd/30/31/31/31, because that's fine as a parent.

Actually, it's preferable to have two HP Dragon parents, because if the guy tells you that your hatchling's HP typing is Ice, that means all the right IVs passed. If you have HP Ice parents, the IV guy needs to confirm that the hatchling is "outstanding", and then you STILL have to check for a 30 defense IV.

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For a type that requires more than one 30 IV, you will likely need to chain breed. For example, I had to breed my Charizard with 30 SpA (Power Lens), with a Slowpoke with 30 Spe (Power Anklet), to produce a x/x/x/30/x/30 male, before I could breed with a female Froakie for HP Fire.
 
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Nickg07 said:
Pretty sure I put two power items on breeding pokes last night and both ivs were not carried over..
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I had something similar happen to me earlier today, actually; I had a 31 speed Rotom holding Power Anklet, and a 31 Def Ditto holding Power Belt. Of the four eggs I hatched, 2 had 31 Speed and Defense IVs, and one had 31 Def while the last had 31 Speed. Pulled both parents and double-checked IVs at Kiloude, and can send both parents to somebody if they want to verify.
 
Julfordio said:
I had something similar happen to me earlier today, actually; I had a 31 speed Rotom holding Power Anklet, and a 31 Def Ditto holding Power Belt. Of the four eggs I hatched, 2 had 31 Speed and Defense IVs, and one had 31 Def while the last had 31 Speed. Pulled both parents and double-checked IVs at Kiloude, and can send both parents to somebody if they want to verify.
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This would be an interesting change from Gen 5 mechanics if true, but further research is needed. Its possible you just got lucky and your second 31-iv was randomly generated 31. You're usually better off using one power item and one Destiny Knot, though
 
I'm trying to breed an Espurr F with Infiltrator. I messed up at the start (forgot it could have two abilities and didn't check) and now have a mother (31/x/31/31/31/31) with Keen Eye, but I'm now using a father (x/x/31/31/31/31) with Infiltrator. What's the chance of the kids getting Infiltrator?
 
noparlpf said:
I'm trying to breed an Espurr F with Infiltrator. I messed up at the start (forgot it could have two abilities and didn't check) and now have a mother (31/x/31/31/31/31) with Keen Eye, but I'm now using a father (x/x/31/31/31/31) with Infiltrator. What's the chance of the kids getting Infiltrator?
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Zero. 20% chance
 
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Okay, so I bust bred my female adamant binacle (it has like 2 flawless IV's I think) with a quint flawless male shellder (naive nature, if that matters) I received today (flawless in everything except special attack). I had the binacle hold the everstone and gave the shellder the destiny knot. After hatching 5 babies, only one of them was quint flawless (everything except defense). The rest of the babies had only 3 flawless IV's (or less). How is this possible when I had my male shellder holding the destiny knot? If the shellder is quint flawless (which it is) I should have at least 4 flawless IV's.
 
lmitchell0012 said:
Okay, so I bust bred my female adamant binacle (it has like 2 flawless IV's I think) with a quint flawless male shellder (naive nature, if that matters) I received today (flawless in everything except special attack). I had the binacle hold the everstone and gave the shellder the destiny knot. After hatching 5 babies, only one of them was quint flawless (everything except defense). The rest of the babies had only 3 flawless IV's (or less). How is this possible when I had my male shellder holding the destiny knot? If the shellder is quint flawless (which it is) I should have at least 4 flawless IV's.
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Its very possible. You have to remember that its a 1/6 chance of getting the correct inheritance spread (in your case you want flawless in all but SpA), and a 1/2 chance for each IV to inherit from any one parent (2/2 chance if both parents have the same IV) per IV. 1/6*1/2*1/2*1/2*2/2*2/2 = 1/48 chance to get the correct inheritance. If you get the wrong inheritance spread (IE SpA is inherited, Defense is not), you still have a 5/192 chance of that IV coming up correct anyway (5/6 chance to get the wrong inheritance, 1/32 of it randomly coming up 31-IV)

1/48 + 5/192 = 3/64 ~ 4.69% chance
 
Okay, so currently the best parents I have have 3 perfect IV's or more (unfortunately MOST of the females all have crap IV's and the don't have the ability I want. The best female has 3 perfect IV's so I think I'll keep this one.). Should I just toss everything that has less than 3 flawless IV's? It's becoming hard to keep track of the IV's of all these different babies LOL.
 
lmitchell0012 said:
Okay, so currently the best parents I have have 3 perfect IV's or more (unfortunately MOST of the females all have crap IV's and the don't have the ability I want. The best female has 3 perfect IV's so I think I'll keep this one.). Should I just toss everything that has less than 3 flawless IV's? It's becoming hard to keep track of the IV's of all these different babies LOL.
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Thats generally what I do when possible. As you get better and better Pokemon with more and more good IVs, the less good ones become useless. It gets to the point where anything with less than 4 good IVs to begin with is a waste of time to use.
 
lmitchell0012 said:
Okay, so currently the best parents I have have 3 perfect IV's or more (unfortunately MOST of the females all have crap IV's and the don't have the ability I want. The best female has 3 perfect IV's so I think I'll keep this one.). Should I just toss everything that has less than 3 flawless IV's? It's becoming hard to keep track of the IV's of all these different babies LOL.
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Use the markings to keep track of IVs when you put them in the PC after getting their IVs initially checked. ●, ▲, ■, ♥, ★ and ♦ is the order they go in, so mark the circle for perfect HP IV, the triangle for perfect Attack IV, the square for perfect Defense IV, etc. This will allow you to quickly identify which Pokemon have which IVs without making it a chore to drag them out and talk to the Kiloude IV guy over and over. It's also nice because they are transferred between games when trading and are searchable in the PC.

Might be worth noting as a tip just for organizational purposes. It's been really helpful for me ever since I started using the marking system, anyway.
 
After hours of tedious breeding I've finally done it. I've FINALLY achieved my flawless adamant binacle with the ability I want. Now I just have to get some stock for trading. The sad thing is no one wants to trade for binacle...
 
Julfordio said:
I had something similar happen to me earlier today, actually; I had a 31 speed Rotom holding Power Anklet, and a 31 Def Ditto holding Power Belt. Of the four eggs I hatched, 2 had 31 Speed and Defense IVs, and one had 31 Def while the last had 31 Speed. Pulled both parents and double-checked IVs at Kiloude, and can send both parents to somebody if they want to verify.
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Yep I've done it a few times both ivs seem to not be guaranteed to carry over:/
 
Zebraiken said:
Use the markings to keep track of IVs when you put them in the PC after getting their IVs initially checked. ●, ▲, ■, ♥, ★ and ♦ is the order they go in, so mark the circle for perfect HP IV, the triangle for perfect Attack IV, the square for perfect Defense IV, etc. This will allow you to quickly identify which Pokemon have which IVs without making it a chore to drag them out and talk to the Kiloude IV guy over and over. It's also nice because they are transferred between games when trading and are searchable in the PC.

Might be worth noting as a tip just for organizational purposes. It's been really helpful for me ever since I started using the marking system, anyway.
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I second this. Trying to keep track any other way is a huge pain, especially if you are using everstone and only getting one nature.
 
Ya using nicknames is annoying as I always end up for getting to nick one of them in a batch. I used to pen and pad write them all down after iv battles.. The iv judge is really useful - just tag them as above with the symbols after checking each one and finding the obe or two you need to keep. simply ditch the rest unless it has an ability/random iv you need etc.
 
I name my pokemon with a system.
First they're A1, A2, A3, A4... etc.
Once one of the babies is good enough to replace a parent, round 2 starts. Now I name them all B1, B2, B3, B4... etc. And this goes on and on, usually I get to C or D before I hatch my target. I keep a little .txt open to note down what I need to know.
 
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