I'd like to hear a genuine, well informed opinion from someone who doesn't think Bax is quickban-worthy post-DLC.
The main argument I see right now is that Dondozo was a great pick at least in the pre-DLC meta and seemingly will continue to be a pain for Bax teams. I also have heard people wanting to ban veil or light clay first, which I strongly disagree with but can at least understand.
Is there anything besides "Dozo is easy to fit for many teams and it keeps it in check" and "Restrict Veil Alolatales in some way first", that makes people opposed to a Bax ban?
Also, for what it's worth, I'm fine with giving it a couple days, having a survey, and only quickbanning it if it gets like 3.5/5 or higher. I just hope things move along at a reasonable pace.
Possible bax counters/checks: dondozo,iron defense corviknight, tera fairy garganacl with either curse or iron defense, tera fairy in general, air balloon kingambit,air balloon gholdengo,azumarill,alolan ninetales (which gets a boost from snow to its def, resists or is immune to its stabs, isn't afraid of its coverage, and sets veil in its presence, while being able to encore-lock it), weezing-g (with levitate and tera steel,if necessary). Then u go to more niche picks, like orthworm, bronzong and tera steel cresselia.
Other means are status (including burn, if its not the thermal exchange variant), encore (from the likes of i-val, scream tail etc), hazards (to which bax is very vulnerable if it's not running hdb), phazing (from tera'd ting-lu and great tusk) and the drawbacks of using scale shot (decreases its defense,which makes bax susceptible to revenge killing, from faster threats and priority, and it also has a chance to miss) or glaive rush (taking double damage)
Possible veil counters:ur own weather setter, cinderace (both with taunt and court change), dragapult, the tauros regionals, brick break or psychic fangs on anything (personally, i have used throughout this gen on balance and bulky offense structures choice scarf meow, aka my speed control, with brick break, for gambit and screens, as well as psychic fangs basculegion-m on rain teams for toxapex,amoongus and screens), defog (if not for gholdengo on the opposing team, unless u don't mind its presence, like with neutralizing gas weezing-g). Lastly, gholdengo itself is very threatening to veil structures with a-tales and bax,especially if it is running choice scarf to surprise a-tales or air balloon for bax. And of course, a-tales is weak to all sorts of hazards,if it's not running heavy duty boots (hazards in general are a very effective way of dealing with a-tales structures,including laying down toxic spikes). Of interest is also the fact that it cannot hold light clay and icy rock simultaneously, which reduces considerably the number of turns for either screens or snow boosting.
As a final point, do not fall for new toy syndrome.we have seen the same thing whenever a new ou release happens, overhyped things that just fall off as the meta evolves.
Make of that what u will
