I'm thinking it might be an Obstagoon-type situation but where Sinistea and Polteageist got compressed into a single lookalike mon due to some convoluted GameFreak logic.
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SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet Leaks Thread - Data/Mechanics
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So is this just going off the riddle then? Or do we have anything else that may indicate only 7 new forms for the first DLC, and 8 for the second? Seems about right in terms of numbers, but I wouldn't put too much into just the riddle.
This is going off the riddle, officially revealed info, and other leaks implying the existence of other new currently unrevealed Pokemon.
Of course, what I posted there is tentative information compiling what we know thus far and is an assumption of what would be the likely list, which may or may not be accurate when we get to the DLC for real. As with all leaks stuff it's to be taken with a grain of salt, and I will always readily admit that it can be wrong, but it's a tentative compilation of what we know based on everything that's out there thus far.
They were recently revealed at Worlds.
In terms of leaks once the "datamined" list of potential DLC Pokemon with 'removed' dex entries was found, all the previous starters were there sans the other 2 Unova ones. Emboar and Serperior were added in an update.
Thanks. Most updated list I can find shows more confirmed for Indigo, and I have to assume the unassigned will be for Teal. Things like Victreebel. Are these leaks likely to end up being true? If so, it looks like we can more or less guess with fairly certainty the upcoming roster.
The Pokemon that were revealed so far were all in that list so so far it tracks. We won't know for sure until release in a few weeks though.
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This may be something more suited to the Mysteries & Conspiracies thread, but without much else to think about at the moment, I found myself remembering these mystery items from waaay back when the game was first leaking:
While I wouldn't exactly be surprised if these were just something that got scrapped and dummied out, as far as I know they don't even have names associated with them in the data that could possibly hint as to what they might have been intended for, and I don't think I saw any of the usual datamining people talk about them after the initial sprite sheet was posted. I guess I'm just sort of wondering if anybody else recalls them and is curious about them.
While I wouldn't exactly be surprised if these were just something that got scrapped and dummied out, as far as I know they don't even have names associated with them in the data that could possibly hint as to what they might have been intended for, and I don't think I saw any of the usual datamining people talk about them after the initial sprite sheet was posted. I guess I'm just sort of wondering if anybody else recalls them and is curious about them.
Those 2 items might be the dummied-out special items for Koraidon and Miraidon. Earlier in this thread (or the Smogoff post earlier in this thread has a link to) mentions that Koraidon and Miraidon would have gotten special items according to a leak. Guess they haven't gotten special items and seem pretty unlikely to now. This wouldn't have been the first time Gen 9 leak-mentioned stuff got cut off or left undone, though.
Well if there's anything that would give the lizards their perma flight capabilities outside of temporary sandwiches, i suppose items associated with them would do it.
Also once more looking at the exp charm and glaring. You stay gone.
Does anyone think Supersweet Syrup will be useful in a competitive sense? For a move that has an accuracy of 80% normally, and you have this ability, what is the overall hit probability increased to? Makes me wonder if Syrup Bomb does a lot of damage but has an otherwise low accuracy.
I think a -1 evasion stat (& assuming no other modifications) means an 80% move is now 100% chance to hit (well like 106%, I think but you get the gist)
but all that will be irrelevant if Diplin isn't good enough to be worth a team slot.
In Doubles, definitely.
The biggest issue is probably going to be dipplin’s stats. It will most likely have a similar BST to appletun and flapple, which have a BST of 485, which is pretty underwhelming by gen 9 standards. (For reference, that’s the same BST as grafaiai and bombirdier and is weaker than oinkologne.) There might still be potential if dipplin’s stats are extremely minmaxed or it gets an evolution, but imo, supersweet syrup won’t be enough to justify using something with such mediocre stats and typing.
That being said, it’s definitely a solid ability in a vacuum, so if something stronger also gets it down the line, it’ll probably see some use
That being said, it’s definitely a solid ability in a vacuum, so if something stronger also gets it down the line, it’ll probably see some use
That is my assumption, but I do wonder if Syrup Bomb has an exceptionally high damage output, although low accuracy, in addition to its secondary affect.
Otherwise I would be confused why they think we needed a 3rd evolution, the two we have already fill some niches but are just a bit too weak. From a visual perspective, it doesn't look that interesting either.
For Sword & Shield DLCs, did we get a full data mine ahead of the release or did we have to wait until the update went live for players to download?
Fwiw we haven't actually got a real prerelease datamine since SM, and the only reason we got one was because of the demo.
In fact sometimes I wonder if the reason we never got a demo after that was the fact they datamined the shit out of the demo and revealed a bunch of new pokemon before it was time.
The datamines we got for SwSh and SV were mainly due to actually leaked copies. DLCs are practically impossible to datamine as they don't preload regardless, so the best we can rely on is leftover data (which, being leftover data, doesn't necessarly account for something present in the actual release either).
I think the closest thing to that are the home moveset leaks except said leaks ended up being innacurate as several mons gain/lost new moves inbetween home & dlc.
Surprised no one was able to datamine this again but for Gen 9
Generally they get better about it once it's found
Like how ORAS's demo had all the game's script, trainer data, encounter tables and map locations but SM scrubbed nearly everything squeaky clean...but alas forgot to scrub the Pokedex Images (& battle intros and a few moves but eyes on the prize here)! If there had been another demo in the switch era (Let's Go doesn't count) I imagine they'd have gotten better about it.
I'd point that the datamine back then was also shown to be inaccurate, es the Tapus never got the terrain moves despite them being shown as learnable.
All we have access outside of the games straight up being leaked illegally is just the occasional leftover data, which is for example what people based the tentative list of returning pokemon (due to scrapped dex entries and the various pikachu placeholders). However, specifically due to this being... leftover data, it's often inconclusional, as it can be changed before the release or be leftover of a earlier version than the release candidate.
The tapu did get the terrain moves, the tapu move exclusions I remember are Tapu Koko & Bulu being shown learning Play Rough and then not learning it in the final release.
Even as a in-development snapshot, it actually wound up being pretty spot on otherwise. Only a relative handful of moves wound up not making the cut, and I believe most of the pokemon that got substantial move additions did indeed wind up being the ones who got into the game as DLC.
Oh those terrain moves
I thought worldie meant, like. The literal actual Terrain moves and not the tutor moves