Empoleon isn't in the game so idk how possible it is to test with hacking or whatever but, does salt cure do extra damage to a water/steel type or does it cap at 25%?
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I unfortunately do not have video to back this up, but I tested what would happen if a Pokémon afflicted by Salt Cure were to become a Water or Steel-type. Hit a wild Breloom with Salt Cure, it took 1/8th chip as expected. Switched into Tatsugiri, Breloom was now slightly above 50% HP, its HP bar was green. Used Soak to turn Breloom into a Water-type, which increased the damage it took from Salt Cure - after two turns during which I did not directly attack it, it went from green HP to red, with just a sliver of total HP remaining. Thus, Salt Cure's damage changes depending on whether the target is currently a Water or Steel-type, regardless of the amount of damage it initially dealt. I wasn't able to test this, but this presumably means that if a Water or Steel-type afflicted with Salt Cure Terastalizes out of that typing, it will have Salt Cure's passive damage reduced.
My favourite part about testing this was when Kingambit said "It's Kowtowing Time!" and Kowtow'd all over Garganacl
after 1 death and switching out
185 Atk Kingambit vs 154 Def Garganacl
test 1: no deaths (121/191) - 70 damage
test 2: 1 death and switch out (116/191) - 75 damage
test 3: 2 deaths (116/191) - 75 damage
test 4: 3 deaths (107/191) - 84 damage
test 5: 4 deaths (98/191) - 93 damage
test 6: 5 deaths, including letting Kingambit faint and revive (89/191) - 102 damage
test 7: 6 deaths (89/191) - 102 damage
test 8: 10 deaths (82/191) - 109 damage
Lvl 55 0+ Atk Bisharp False Surrender vs. Lvl 57 0 HP / 0 Def Regirock: 64-76 (32.3 - 38.3%) -- 96.3% chance to 3HKO
Expected damage from Level 55 Kingambit
No boost: 64-76 (185 Atk)
10% boost: 69-82 (203 Atk)
20% boost: 76-90 (222 Atk)
30% boost: 82-97 (240 Atk)
40% boost: 88-105 (259 Atk)
50% boost: 94-112 (277 Atk)
60% boost: 102-120 (296 Atk)
70% boost: 108-127 (314 Atk)
100% boost: 127-150 (370 Atk)
Stuff that I'm sure about:
- Switching out does not reset the boost (I got the ability message twice, once after letting a mon die, the other after switching out to a higher level mon and coming back in)
- It's supposed to be a 10% boost per mon fainted, right?
Looking like 5% boosts to me. - Did the user's death also contribute to the Supreme Overlord boost?
- What's the boost cap at? edit: I'm thinking 50%
edit: I calc'd the damage rolls for the stat changes wrong. Should be rectified now. Yeah, the boost is 10%.
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Thanks for the analysis! It seems like whichever and however way a Pokemon in your Team faints, Last Respects increases in BP. The no hard cap could be useful if someone makes say a 12 vs 12 OM or whatever and your Houndstone was the last Pokemon left in that. AG where there is no Species clause could go wild! Interesting that Last Respects has no cap, yet Supreme Overlord seems to cap at 50% (i.e. 5 deaths).
I still do wonder why Rage Fist seems to be capped at 350BP. Are there any other move instances where there is a similar cap for getting damaged? They probably were worried about a Population Bomb + Rage Fist combo (of course you would need to Tera Annihilape but even so) which is why there is a cap. Something like Bullet Seed with 5 hits wouldn't give max power either. Maybe it's somehow linked to the team size? Then again that would mean in say 3v3 or VGC the cap would be different. Could be interesting to try some kind of Beat Up strat in the Doubles metagame.
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Tested a few more things!
Eviolite Damage Test
First off, I kept hearing rumors about Eviolite getting nerfed, so I tested that! With both mons at level 50, I had an Iron Hands with 159 Attack using Drain Punch against an Eviolite Crocalor with 121 Defense
This range seems like the usual Eviolite range, so I think it's safe to say that Eviolite is still a 1.5x boost to defenses.
Tailwind in Doubles
Next Up, I test out a doubles speed mechanic: does Tailwind's Speed boost apply immediately upon use in doubles?
The answer is: Yes, it's unchanged from gen 8! I used a Scarf Kilowattrel to set up Tailwind, and my Iron Valiant outsped a Miraidon it normally wouldn't!
Quark Drive + Energy Booster
So this was posted in the Showdown Bug reports, and I was asked to test this.
I tested this out, and was unable to reproduce this effect. I tested this by using an Ice Spinner Iron Treads in battle with Miraidon setting up Electric Terrain, and my own Iron Bundle and Iron Hands on the other side. Each time I used Ice Spinner and terrain was destroyed, all 3 got the same boosts reapplied from Energy Booster. In particular, my Iron Bundle also has Speed as its highest stat. I was unable to try this with my own Iron Valiant (mine has a higher Attack stat).
Galen49 , do you have any more context to the testing here? I think we need more info if we are to reproduce this.
I do have a hypothesis though: did your Iron Valiant get its Speed dropped in any way? Let's look at this post Whitephoenixace made.
I can double confirm this: I had Iron Treads use Bulldoze against my Iron Bundle, and when Electric Terrain was destroyed by Ice Spinner, My Iron Bundle got a Special Attack boost instead of a Speed boost.
Quark Drive Interaction With Items
Finally, I tested out how Choice Scarf, Assault Vest, and Tailwind impact Quark Drive boosts. From my testing, None of these impacted which stat was boosted.
Eviolite Damage Test
First off, I kept hearing rumors about Eviolite getting nerfed, so I tested that! With both mons at level 50, I had an Iron Hands with 159 Attack using Drain Punch against an Eviolite Crocalor with 121 Defense
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This range seems like the usual Eviolite range, so I think it's safe to say that Eviolite is still a 1.5x boost to defenses.
Tailwind in Doubles
Next Up, I test out a doubles speed mechanic: does Tailwind's Speed boost apply immediately upon use in doubles?
The answer is: Yes, it's unchanged from gen 8! I used a Scarf Kilowattrel to set up Tailwind, and my Iron Valiant outsped a Miraidon it normally wouldn't!
Quark Drive + Energy Booster
So this was posted in the Showdown Bug reports, and I was asked to test this.
I tested this out, and was unable to reproduce this effect. I tested this by using an Ice Spinner Iron Treads in battle with Miraidon setting up Electric Terrain, and my own Iron Bundle and Iron Hands on the other side. Each time I used Ice Spinner and terrain was destroyed, all 3 got the same boosts reapplied from Energy Booster. In particular, my Iron Bundle also has Speed as its highest stat. I was unable to try this with my own Iron Valiant (mine has a higher Attack stat).
Galen49 , do you have any more context to the testing here? I think we need more info if we are to reproduce this.
I do have a hypothesis though: did your Iron Valiant get its Speed dropped in any way? Let's look at this post Whitephoenixace made.
I can double confirm this: I had Iron Treads use Bulldoze against my Iron Bundle, and when Electric Terrain was destroyed by Ice Spinner, My Iron Bundle got a Special Attack boost instead of a Speed boost.
Quark Drive Interaction With Items
Finally, I tested out how Choice Scarf, Assault Vest, and Tailwind impact Quark Drive boosts. From my testing, None of these impacted which stat was boosted.
I do wonder if those moves will see further edits when they're actually available, seems like a bit of leftover from PLA. A few extra moves got high crit in that game that don't in normal ones (like X-scissor and Dragon Claw)
Unfortunate that a Booster Energy speed boost won't be able to counteract Sticky Web as your Speed likely won't be the highest stat.
Can Booster energy be recycled? If so, assume if Proto/QD are activated thanks to Booster Energy, the new BE (recycled or Tricked) won't activate until the effects of the old one wear out similar to the weather+BE situation (and not apply multiple boosts)
Also just to confirm, the Paradox abilities boost a fixed stat once activated, and don't dynamically change based on which stat is highest due to stat changes, right?
And this has probably been mentioned before, but how does QD interact with ability-changing moves like Skill Swap?
Is Booster Energy affected by burn?
Can Booster energy be recycled? If so, assume if Proto/QD are activated thanks to Booster Energy, the new BE (recycled or Tricked) won't activate until the effects of the old one wear out similar to the weather+BE situation (and not apply multiple boosts)
Also just to confirm, the Paradox abilities boost a fixed stat once activated, and don't dynamically change based on which stat is highest due to stat changes, right?
And this has probably been mentioned before, but how does QD interact with ability-changing moves like Skill Swap?
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Iron Fist + Punching Glove does work, tested via damage and catching on the same fidough in game.
lvl 12 crabrawler (28 att, iron fist, no item) drain punch vs lvl 6 fidough (15 def, 21 hp) deals an expected damage range of 13-16 (verified in game)
lvl 12 crabrawler (28 att, iron fist, punching glove) drain punch vs lvl 6 fidough (15 def, 21 hp) dealt 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18 damage in 10 tests
17 and 18 damage are impossible without an additional boost, and are consistent with a 10% boost from punching glove (muscle band used as stand in for calc):
lvl 12 crabrawler (28 att, iron fist, muscle band) drain punch vs lvl 6 fidough (15 def, 21 hp) deals expected 15-18
Punching glove boost is likely 10%. At 20% damage rolls of 15 are impossible. It's possible the boost falls between 10 and 20% but iirc no damage boosting item does this. Either way, its probably not a great item to run except for item clause formats on pokemon that utilise multiple punch moves
Iron Fist + Punching Glove does work, tested via damage and catching on the same fidough in game.
lvl 12 crabrawler (28 att, iron fist, no item) drain punch vs lvl 6 fidough (15 def, 21 hp) deals an expected damage range of 13-16 (verified in game)
lvl 12 crabrawler (28 att, iron fist, punching glove) drain punch vs lvl 6 fidough (15 def, 21 hp) dealt 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18 damage in 10 tests
17 and 18 damage are impossible without an additional boost, and are consistent with a 10% boost from punching glove (muscle band used as stand in for calc):
lvl 12 crabrawler (28 att, iron fist, muscle band) drain punch vs lvl 6 fidough (15 def, 21 hp) deals expected 15-18
Punching glove boost is likely 10%. At 20% damage rolls of 15 are impossible. It's possible the boost falls between 10 and 20% but iirc no damage boosting item does this. Either way, its probably not a great item to run except for item clause formats on pokemon that utilise multiple punch moves
Since Varoom has Slow Start now, did the ability get any changes? Like maybe the counter doesn't get reset when you switch out? Asking for a friend 
Wall of text in the hide tag. TL;DR of Rage Fist interaction testing:
Don't have a Pokemon with Defog, so I can't test the Defog interaction yet, but from what I tested so far, only direct damage contributes from other Pokemon contributes to Rage Fist BP increase. razorsharp3000
- Taunt does not proc BP increase
- Stat-lowering moves does not proc BP increase
- Toxic damage, Life Orb damage, Sticky Barb damage, Black Sludge damage does not proc BP increase
- Getting status'd by opponents and hitting self in confusion does not proc BP increase
Level 35 81 Atk Primeape vs Level 32 71 Def Dachsbun (Stat Dropped)
Turn 1: Dachsbun uses Baby-Doll Eyes, Primeape uses Stealth Rocks
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, does 14 damage to Dachsbun
-1 Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0- Def Dachsbun: 11-14 (12.5 - 15.9%) -- possible 7HKO
Possible damage amounts: (11, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 14)
-1 Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0- Def Dachsbun: 22-26 (25 - 29.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Possible damage amounts: (22, 22, 22, 22, 23, 23, 23, 23, 24, 24, 24, 24, 25, 25, 25, 26)
Rage Fist seems to be 50 BP even after having stat dropped.
Level 35 81 Atk Primeape vs Level 32 39 Def Murkrow (Taunt'd)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Stealth Rocks, Murkrow uses Taunt
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, does 14 damage to Murkrow
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0 Def Murkrow: 14-17 (15.5 - 18.8%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (14, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17)
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0 Def Murkrow: 28-34 (31.1 - 37.7%) -- 85.8% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (28, 29, 29, 29, 30, 30, 30, 31, 31, 31, 32, 32, 32, 33, 33, 34)
Taunt did not cause Rage Fist's BP to increase.
Level 36 83 Atk Primeape vs Level 34 68 Def Tropius (Toxic Orb Test)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Subsitute, Tropius uses Stomp. Substitute does not break. Toxic Orb procs.
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Tropius uses ???. First tick of Toxic damage
Turn 3: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Tropius uses Stomp.
Total Damage dealt: 37
Lvl 36 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 17-21 (14 - 17.3%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (17, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 20, 20, 20, 20, 21)
Lvl 36 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 34-41 (28 - 33.8%) -- 0.6% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (34, 35, 35, 36, 36, 36, 37, 37, 38, 38, 38, 39, 39, 40, 40, 41)
Seeing as how total damage dealt is less than 100 BP Rage Fist damage, damage to Substitute and damage from status does not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 36 83 Atk Primeape vs Level 33 63 Def Tropius (Life Orb Test)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Substitute, Tropius uses Stomp
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, gets damaged by Life Orb, Tropius uses Whirlwind, fails (cringe)
Turn 3: Primeape uses Rage Fist
Total Damage dealt: 53
Lvl 36 0 Atk Life Orb Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 33 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 25-30 (21.1 - 25.4%) -- 0.2% chance to 4HKO
Possible damage amounts: (25, 25, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 27, 27, 27, 27, 29, 29, 29, 29, 30)
Lvl 36 0 Atk Life Orb Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 33 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 48-57 (40.6 - 48.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (48, 48, 49, 49, 51, 51, 52, 52, 52, 53, 53, 55, 55, 56, 56, 57)
Same observation as previous test, Life Orb damage does not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 37 86 Atk Primeape vs Level 35 75 Def Spidops (Sticky Barb)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Substitute, Spidops uses Headbutt and breaks Sub. Sticky Barb damages Primeape
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Spidops uses Counter, Sticky Barb latches onto Spidops
Damage dealt: 30
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 35 0 HP / 0 Def Spidops: 17-20 (17.5 - 20.6%) -- possible 5HKO
Possible damage amounts: (17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 20)
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 35 0 HP / 0 Def Spidops: 32-38 (32.9 - 39.1%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (32, 32, 33, 33, 33, 34, 34, 34, 35, 35, 36, 36, 36, 37, 37, 38)
Spidops potentially takes 19 damage from Rage Fist and 11 damage from Sticky Barb. Sticky Barb damage did not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 37 86 Atk Primeape vs Level 34 62 Def Tropius
Turn 1: Tropius uses Wide Guard, Primeape uses Substitute. Black Sludge damages Primeape
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Tropius uses Whirlwind and fails (cringe)
Damage dealt: 23
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0- Def Tropius: 20-24 (16.5 - 19.8%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (20, 20, 20, 21, 21, 21, 21, 22, 22, 22, 22, 23, 23, 23, 23, 24)
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0- Def Tropius: 39-46 (32.2 - 38%) -- 94% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (39, 39, 40, 40, 40, 41, 41, 42, 42, 43, 43, 44, 44, 45, 45, 46)
Black Sludge does not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 35 88 Atk Primeape vs Level 91 176 Def Tinkaton (Status Condition applied)
Tinkaton Thunder Wave'd Primeape. Primeape hit itself in confusion. Rage Fist did 9 damage.
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 91 0 HP / 0 Def Tinkaton: 8-10 (2.8 - 3.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Possible damage amounts: (8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10)
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 91 0 HP / 0 Def Tinkaton: 15-18 (5.3 - 6.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Possible damage amounts: (15, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18)
Neither Statusing it nor it hitting itself in confusion proc'd the Rage Fist BP increase.
Sidenote: Primeape used Thrash on Tinkaton. Switch'd out into Flutter Mane, Primeape used Thrash. Did not damage since Flutter Mane is Ghost-type, but Primeape also did not end up getting confused.
Turn 1: Dachsbun uses Baby-Doll Eyes, Primeape uses Stealth Rocks
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, does 14 damage to Dachsbun
-1 Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0- Def Dachsbun: 11-14 (12.5 - 15.9%) -- possible 7HKO
Possible damage amounts: (11, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 14)
-1 Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0- Def Dachsbun: 22-26 (25 - 29.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Possible damage amounts: (22, 22, 22, 22, 23, 23, 23, 23, 24, 24, 24, 24, 25, 25, 25, 26)
Rage Fist seems to be 50 BP even after having stat dropped.
Level 35 81 Atk Primeape vs Level 32 39 Def Murkrow (Taunt'd)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Stealth Rocks, Murkrow uses Taunt
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, does 14 damage to Murkrow
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0 Def Murkrow: 14-17 (15.5 - 18.8%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (14, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17)
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 32 0 HP / 0 Def Murkrow: 28-34 (31.1 - 37.7%) -- 85.8% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (28, 29, 29, 29, 30, 30, 30, 31, 31, 31, 32, 32, 32, 33, 33, 34)
Taunt did not cause Rage Fist's BP to increase.
Level 36 83 Atk Primeape vs Level 34 68 Def Tropius (Toxic Orb Test)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Subsitute, Tropius uses Stomp. Substitute does not break. Toxic Orb procs.
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Tropius uses ???. First tick of Toxic damage
Turn 3: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Tropius uses Stomp.
Total Damage dealt: 37
Lvl 36 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 17-21 (14 - 17.3%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (17, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 20, 20, 20, 20, 21)
Lvl 36 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 34-41 (28 - 33.8%) -- 0.6% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (34, 35, 35, 36, 36, 36, 37, 37, 38, 38, 38, 39, 39, 40, 40, 41)
Seeing as how total damage dealt is less than 100 BP Rage Fist damage, damage to Substitute and damage from status does not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 36 83 Atk Primeape vs Level 33 63 Def Tropius (Life Orb Test)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Substitute, Tropius uses Stomp
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, gets damaged by Life Orb, Tropius uses Whirlwind, fails (cringe)
Turn 3: Primeape uses Rage Fist
Total Damage dealt: 53
Lvl 36 0 Atk Life Orb Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 33 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 25-30 (21.1 - 25.4%) -- 0.2% chance to 4HKO
Possible damage amounts: (25, 25, 26, 26, 26, 26, 26, 27, 27, 27, 27, 29, 29, 29, 29, 30)
Lvl 36 0 Atk Life Orb Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 33 0 HP / 0 Def Tropius: 48-57 (40.6 - 48.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (48, 48, 49, 49, 51, 51, 52, 52, 52, 53, 53, 55, 55, 56, 56, 57)
Same observation as previous test, Life Orb damage does not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 37 86 Atk Primeape vs Level 35 75 Def Spidops (Sticky Barb)
Turn 1: Primeape uses Substitute, Spidops uses Headbutt and breaks Sub. Sticky Barb damages Primeape
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Spidops uses Counter, Sticky Barb latches onto Spidops
Damage dealt: 30
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 35 0 HP / 0 Def Spidops: 17-20 (17.5 - 20.6%) -- possible 5HKO
Possible damage amounts: (17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18, 18, 18, 18, 18, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 20)
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 35 0 HP / 0 Def Spidops: 32-38 (32.9 - 39.1%) -- 99.8% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (32, 32, 33, 33, 33, 34, 34, 34, 35, 35, 36, 36, 36, 37, 37, 38)
Spidops potentially takes 19 damage from Rage Fist and 11 damage from Sticky Barb. Sticky Barb damage did not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 37 86 Atk Primeape vs Level 34 62 Def Tropius
Turn 1: Tropius uses Wide Guard, Primeape uses Substitute. Black Sludge damages Primeape
Turn 2: Primeape uses Rage Fist, Tropius uses Whirlwind and fails (cringe)
Damage dealt: 23
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0- Def Tropius: 20-24 (16.5 - 19.8%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (20, 20, 20, 21, 21, 21, 21, 22, 22, 22, 22, 23, 23, 23, 23, 24)
Lvl 37 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist vs. Lvl 34 0 HP / 0- Def Tropius: 39-46 (32.2 - 38%) -- 94% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (39, 39, 40, 40, 40, 41, 41, 42, 42, 43, 43, 44, 44, 45, 45, 46)
Black Sludge does not proc Rage Fist BP increase.
Level 35 88 Atk Primeape vs Level 91 176 Def Tinkaton (Status Condition applied)
Tinkaton Thunder Wave'd Primeape. Primeape hit itself in confusion. Rage Fist did 9 damage.
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (50 BP) vs. Lvl 91 0 HP / 0 Def Tinkaton: 8-10 (2.8 - 3.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Possible damage amounts: (8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10)
Lvl 35 0 Atk Primeape Rage Fist (100 BP) vs. Lvl 91 0 HP / 0 Def Tinkaton: 15-18 (5.3 - 6.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever
Possible damage amounts: (15, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18)
Neither Statusing it nor it hitting itself in confusion proc'd the Rage Fist BP increase.
Sidenote: Primeape used Thrash on Tinkaton. Switch'd out into Flutter Mane, Primeape used Thrash. Did not damage since Flutter Mane is Ghost-type, but Primeape also did not end up getting confused.
Don't have a Pokemon with Defog, so I can't test the Defog interaction yet, but from what I tested so far, only direct damage contributes from other Pokemon contributes to Rage Fist BP increase. razorsharp3000
Thanks so much for confirming! So it was just a bug in the PS implementation.
More Rage Fist tests to complement and confirm what's already been discussed in this thread:
Some other minor interactions in that video:
- Rage Fist caps at 350 BP
- Rage Fist only accumulates BP on successful damaging hits
- False Swipe at 1 HP counts as a damaging hit (even though it deals 0 damage)
- Ally attacks count towards damaging hits
- Individual hits of attacks that hit multiple times (Population Bomb) each count as damaging hits
- Disguise busting counts towards damaging hits
- Self-hit confusion doesn't count towards damaging hits
- Damaging or breaking the user's Substitute doesn't count towards damaging hits
- The "times hit" volatile persists on both switchout and being revived by Revival Blessing
- Transform copies the target's "times hit" volatile
- Copycat uses the Copycat user's "times hit" volatile
Some other minor interactions in that video:
- Tatsugiri inside Dondozo still keeps its own Perish counter. A Tatsugiri already inside Dondozo will avoid Perish Song (like standard semi-invulnerability)
- Mold Breaker doesn't break Ruin Abilities or Protosynthesis
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Supreme Overlord/Last Respects/Revival Blessing: In Multi Battles, does your partner's Kos count toward the ability/Move? In Revival's case, can one partner revive another's?
Tested it with wild Gulpin and Skiddo. Gastro Acid and Worry Seed don't work on Protosynthesis/Quark Drive.
And it seems the Tera Raid debuff can't nullify Protosynthesis/Quark Drive either?
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Has anyone tested how Orbs work on the Origin formes of Sinnoh Legends? It currently looks like Adamant Orb/Lustrous Orb doesn't work on Dialga-Origin/Palkia-Origin but Griseous Orb work on Giratina-Origin. I'm not sure if this is just because PS forgets to change the code. (Usually they won't have these Orbs as item but that can happen in BH lol.)
Unless someone managed to hack in Dialga and Palkia into the game, afraid we're going to have to wait for Pokemon Home to release.
edit: Also, apparently there are separate items for Dialga and Palkia. Orbs give the power boost, some crystal thing gives the Form Change.
So I flung a Figy Berry at a Cud Chew Farigiraf, it ate the Figy Berry twice. I'll update this post if I find more interesting interactions with Cud Chew.
I noticed the effect after the terain ended from my Miraidon's ability when my Iron Valiant was out. To my recolection, there was no drop in my Iron Valiant's speed stat. My friend and I recreated the effect after I had noticed it, to verify if the speed stat remained boosted or not after the attack was also raised. The way we set it up was my friends Miraidon set up the terrain and my Iron Valiant was the first pokemon I sent out, as expected the Quark Drive activated and the speed stat was boosted. We stalled until the terrain went away naturally, we did not get rid of the terrain with Ice Spinner or Defog. After the terrain faded naturally, Quark Drive deactivated, Booster Energy activated and the Attack stat was raised rather than the Speed. We checked, and Miraidon attacked first after the Attack stat of Iron Valiant was raised, even though Iron Valiant was previously faster than Miraidon with the first Quark Drive activation. If you havent tested it out by letting the terrain leave naturally instead of destroying it, that might be what causes the effect. Ill see if I can reproduce it and find away to record it.
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I verified what happened. Similar to how reducing the speed stat made the Quark Drive change the boosted stat in your testing, I relized that in both instances of the effect taking place in my game I had used swords dance, thus increasing my attack stat.
So the discrepency with how its currently implemented in Showdown seems to be that stat decreases and boosts influence the stat boosted by Quarkdrive, which doesnt curerntly happen in Showdown.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-1720001435-5sm0nkrmajz8ra4ex55ye5qdxh3cnmnpw
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Does Protean users when Terastallized use their original typing or their Protean typing for STAB? Example: Meowscarada uses Play Rough and becomes Fairy, then Terastallize into Normal. Is it's STAB Fairy/Normal, or Grass/Dark/Normal?
This applies for both Protean 1st > Terastallizing 2nd, and Terastallizing 1st > Protean 2nd.
This applies for both Protean 1st > Terastallizing 2nd, and Terastallizing 1st > Protean 2nd.
Does Ground immunity still apply? I ask because apparently Fire/Flying -> Burn Up -> Roost makes you ???/Flying but with no Ground immunity (I don't know much about this interaction personally).