Yes. The immunity to Ground is maintained.
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Yes. The immunity to Ground is maintained.
If an Arceus is hacked in as a Normal type with Multitype and a Plate what type will an Imposter of that Arceus be, Normal or the plates typing?
more Cud Chew + Fling interactions
test against Naive (-SpDef) Farigiraf with Cud Chew
test 4: null
test 6: null
test 7: null
test 8: null
tl;dr, Cud Chew only activates for the most recent berry eaten. If the berry confuses the user, and the user snaps out of confusion, consuming the berry again by Cud Chew causes confusion again.
edit: finally managed to get Gale Wings and tested the interaction with Tera Blast. Gale Wings does not give priority to Tera Blast when the user changes type to Flying.
test against Naive (-SpDef) Farigiraf with Cud Chew
Turn 1: Grafaiai flings Aguav Berry, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused. Farigiraf knocks out Grafaiai.
Turn 2: Tinkaton flings Persim Berry and cures Farigiraf's confusion. Cud Chew DOES NOT activate for Aguav Berry.
Turn 3: Cud Chew activates (probably for Persim Berry).
Turn 2: Tinkaton flings Persim Berry and cures Farigiraf's confusion. Cud Chew DOES NOT activate for Aguav Berry.
Turn 3: Cud Chew activates (probably for Persim Berry).
Turn 1: Grafaiai flings Aguav Berry, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused.
Turn 2: Grafaiai uses Slash, Poison Touch poisons Farigiraf. Poison damage occurs before Cud Chew activates.
Turn 2: Grafaiai uses Slash, Poison Touch poisons Farigiraf. Poison damage occurs before Cud Chew activates.
Turn 1: Grafaiai flings Aguav Berry, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused. Farigiraf knocks out Grafaiai
Turn 2: Tinkaton flings Rawst Berry, does nothing. Cud Chew activates for Aguav Berry.
Turn 3: Cud Chew does not activate for Rawst Berry.
Turn 2: Tinkaton flings Rawst Berry, does nothing. Cud Chew activates for Aguav Berry.
Turn 3: Cud Chew does not activate for Rawst Berry.
Turn 1: Grafaiai flings Aguav Berry, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused. Farigiraf knocks out Grafaiai.
Turn 2: Tinkaton flings Liechi Berry, raised Farigiraf's attack. Cud Chew DOES NOT activate for Aguav Berry.
Turn 3: Cud Chew activates for Liechi Berry.
Turn 2: Tinkaton flings Liechi Berry, raised Farigiraf's attack. Cud Chew DOES NOT activate for Aguav Berry.
Turn 3: Cud Chew activates for Liechi Berry.
test 7: null
test 8: null
Turn 1: Grafaiai flings Aguav Berry, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused.
Turn 2: Farigiraf snaps out of confusion and KOs Grafaiai. Cud Chew activates, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused.
Turn 2: Farigiraf snaps out of confusion and KOs Grafaiai. Cud Chew activates, Farigiraf heals and becomes confused.
tl;dr, Cud Chew only activates for the most recent berry eaten. If the berry confuses the user, and the user snaps out of confusion, consuming the berry again by Cud Chew causes confusion again.
edit: finally managed to get Gale Wings and tested the interaction with Tera Blast. Gale Wings does not give priority to Tera Blast when the user changes type to Flying.
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So during a raid when there was Electric Terrain up, my Iron Treads got a speed boost initially, got KO'd, then when it came back in it got a defense boost from Quark Drive. Don't know what was going on there, but if it hasn't been mentioned it could possibly be worth looking into since it's technically possible for paradox mons to revive via Revival Blessing.
Said like this it doesn't mean much, you'd need to specify the rest of the conditions. Including your Iron Tread exact stats.
We already verified that the "current" highest stat is taken in consideration for Quark Drive. In a vacuum that doesn't really say much.
If es: you used Rapid Spin before the first Elec.Terrain went up, you'd have got a Speed Boost from Quark Drive, and then a Defense boost once revived.
So I've done several raids with Flutter Mane, and the stat increases are really weird.
edit: some pics of the weird thing happening
Before the Arboliva used Sunny Day, I set up a Calm Mind with Flutter Mane.
Protosynthesis activates under harsh sunlight. Text reads that Sp. Def was heightened.
edit 2: how it should normally work
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Did you happen to notice if a Defensive Cheer was cast at the time? afaik the cheers boost your stats directly rather than increasing the stages.
Speed is the highest stat on my Iron Treads followed by attack, then defense.
-Miraidon and Iron Treads are sent out at the start of the raid, this is the turn Electric terrain goes up. Iron Treads's speed is increased by Quark Drive.
-Iron Treads gets KO'd, Electric Terrain is still up.
-Iron Treads gets sent out again and Quark Drive procs a defense boost.
Now if KO'd mons retain defense boosts from cheers then that may explain things, although I don't remember if a cheer was used in this chain of events.
Unfortunately TMs cannot be thrown with Fling. I tried with TM163 Hyper Beam and it failed (video).
Arceus appears normal type, but it and Judgment both retain the typing from the Plate.
Wanted to mess around with this a bit.
Adamant, Lustrous, and Griseous Orb no longer form change them. It's now Adamant Crystal, Lustrous Globe, and Griseous Core that do.
The Origins can be hacked to hold other items. They retain the full effects of those items. They can trick items, even their "new Orbs." They don't transform mid-battle if they lose their Orbs. You can Knock Off them as well. Fling fails, though.
Not relevant for Smogon, but changing to a different item in the overworld in Origin will revert them to altered, even if they weren't holding their transformation item. Giving them their proper item while in Origin form and holding a hacked item keeps them in Origin form, no transformation animations required.
Salt Cure deals 25% to Empoleon.
Do we have a deeper understanding of Good as Gold? For example, would it prevent the user from being effected from the following:
- Whirlwind
- Haze
- Block or Mean Look
- Destiny Bond
- Having an opponent copy stat boosts with Heart Swap
- Being redirected by Follow Me
- Memento (not effected by Magic Bounce, so would Good as Gold block it?)
- An ally's use of After You, Ally Switch, Coaching/Decorate, Helping Hand, or, Aromatherapy
- Whirlwind
- Haze
- Block or Mean Look
- Destiny Bond
- Having an opponent copy stat boosts with Heart Swap
- Being redirected by Follow Me
- Memento (not effected by Magic Bounce, so would Good as Gold block it?)
- An ally's use of After You, Ally Switch, Coaching/Decorate, Helping Hand, or, Aromatherapy
Hi. Two more results that may prove useful.
I can happily report that the Ability Shield does block Neutralizing Gas for its holder! The alert comes up saying "(Pokemon)'s Ability is protected by the effects of its Ability Shield!" and when tested Gale Wings continued to grant priority to Brave Bird on Ability Shield Talonflame at full HP as expected. Also tested without the Ability Shield to ensure that Neutralizing Gas was functioning normally, and it properly prevented the priority boost of full HP Gale Wings when no Ability Shield was held by Talonflame.
Flying-type Tera Blast appears to not be priority boosted by full HP Gale Wings. Tested against several wild Pokemon both on the initial turn of Terastallizing Talonflame and on subsequent turns. Other Flying-type moves such as Brave Bird are still priority boosted at full HP as expected while Terastallized.
Does recoil damage proc Rage Fist? I don't think I've seen that checked yet.
So two questions: one, am I to understand that the Origins can’t hold any items other than their Cores without hacking ala how Giratina-O had to hold Griseous Orb in previous gens? Two, do the cores provide the same 20% damage boost to both STABs that the orbs provided? Because if the former is true and the latter is not, this is a direct nerf to Giratina-O.
Just tested this. You can't send in a Tatsugiri to activate Commander again if another Tatsugiri has already activated Commander with the same Dondozo prior to fainting while hidden in the Dondozo's mouth. Commander can trigger with the Dondozo once more if the Dondozo somehow exits the battle and re-enters despite its switching restriction, such as by means of Revival Blessing.
Hello, just wondering if this is correct that protosynthesis boost doesnt get ignored by unaware
Looking at Test 3 here I'd like to propose a hypothesis that Cud Chew does not activate at all on berries that do nothing.
Try flinging a Pecha on a non-poisoned Farigiraf, then poisoning it the next turn. Does it eat the Pecha again via Cud Chew to cure poison? Does flinging an EV berry proc Cud Chew at all?
Thanks a ton for this! I'd like two more questions from this earlier post of mine accelerated; one mainly for Gen 9 Pure Hackmons and the other for the post-Home OU meta:
- Does the Ability Shield prevent your ability from being bypassed by opposing Mold Breaker? What about Teravolt or Turboblaze?
- Does Good As Gold block Court Change?
Thief/Covet: Earlier in the datamine thread, it was noted that Thief and Covet can steal items and put them directly in your bag. A good quality of life change to be sure, but it begs the question: Can items be "stolen" in a PVP setting if the user has an item of their own?
This should be correct. Protosynthesis do not work like a normal stat boost, they're sort of independent. (You can boost to +6 while under the benefits of Protosynthesis). I think it works sort of like the legendary quad's abilities, where your base stat is being boosted, but it's independent of a boosting that unaware blocks. Someone better than me could give a better answer, but that's my understanding of it
I checked afterward and Covet/Thief doesn't work if you have already have a held item, even against wild mons.
Not sure if this is known, but Gigaton Hammer cannot be used twice in a row, which is to say that if you used it before being put to sleep, you can't use it immediately upon waking up, nor can you select to use while you are asleep.
edit: Sleep Talk will ignore the "cannot be used twice in a row" condition, but Gigaton Hammer cannot be selected if it was the last move used.
So basically, Comatose Sleep Talk Gigaton Hammer is a valid strat in hackmons.
edit: Sleep Talk will ignore the "cannot be used twice in a row" condition, but Gigaton Hammer cannot be selected if it was the last move used.
So basically, Comatose Sleep Talk Gigaton Hammer is a valid strat in hackmons.
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