NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Vizh said:
des - There has been maybe 1 des post that was not actively pinging me as scum and the fact that nobody wants to vote them makes me want to cry into my pillow
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I think the reason people ignore her is because she plays like this as town too so its hard to imagine what a scum game from her would look like, but yes, the lack of explanation(or inadequate explanation) for their reads and solving process is concerning
 
a fairy said:
ag and mekkah: off the table for me right now due to my thing going on with ag right now
lechen and hh: had that wack-ass fight, im currently convinced they're t/t. hh is acting just like town hh does, and the anger lechen went through is very standard lechen
bd, skipper, pulsar, ne, dbd: i feel like i havent seen a ton from these folks, so my vote is probably going to end up somewhere in here if i had to lock in a vote right now
ck, vizh, charlie, des: all feel like they're working to solve the game. this probably isnt a purely innocent group, but i'd not be thrilled to vote in this group since my feeling is that these are most of the solvy active players
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So from this you think there's probably 2-3 within the bolded group? If you had to rank them atm what would it be?
 
bluedoom said:
I think the reason people ignore her is because she plays like this as town too so its hard to imagine what a scum game from her would look like, but yes, the lack of explanation(or inadequate explanation) for their reads and solving process is concerning
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Ye normally it would be scummy, but even though I hate making these kinds of reads, this is just how des plays as town, so it’s at worst NAI
 
Wrt bluedoom I think his justifications for townreads are a bit weird (AG and Lechen already explained, and also I think the townreads for voteblock/roleblock aren't good logic) but I don't have the same problem other people seem to have on a skim with scumreads and as far as who's maf goes a lot of my thoughts were pretty parallel to his on a consistent basis. This feels like it'd be harder to fake than compared to making easy townreads on active posters without narrowing the vote pool UNLESS it becomes clear that the reasoning is clearing like, multiple mafia. (One is probably not that bad.) If this happens if it is worth a re-examine but idk this feels like a town slot from their pushes to me. I'll fight a vote on him today.
 
Also I did see your quoted post bluedoom and my issue with meta/how it's being applied to this game is that "this is their town meta" is not a useful measure unless you can compare it to what someone plays like as non-town, and most of the meta reads in this game don't touch on that at all. It's frustrating bc we just get left with "actually nah this read falls apart because they play like that normally" but that doesn't like, clear them? Just shoves them further into the null mud.
 
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