NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

charlieum said:
Also I did see your quoted post bluedoom and my issue with meta/how it's being applied to this game is that "this is their town meta" is not a useful measure unless you can compare it to what someone plays like as non-town, and most of the meta reads in this game don't touch on that at all. It's frustrating bc we just get left with "actually nah this read falls apart because they play like that normally" but that doesn't like, clear them? Just shoves them further into the null mud.
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Yeah you can’t really townread these players off of meta without a counterexample, but I think it’s fair to assume they might play a bit noticabely different if they roll scum, and that certain behaviors for them are null rather than scummy (which is important to identify, failing to often allows scum to mow through players who’s behaviors are closed-mindedly read as scummy without considering the possibility that they might just be a struggling or easily misread villager.)
 
Why is charlie scummy?

I feel like he just is because of the tmi post as well as he didn't really give me enough information about him being on town side for me.
Pulsar is scummy because she wasn't active for a long time and didn't vote yet.
I don't think ne is scummy bc of good reasons in his posts.
Dbd isn't scummy to me I meant on day 2 but I would need more information from him
 
charlieum said:
Also I did see your quoted post bluedoom and my issue with meta/how it's being applied to this game is that "this is their town meta" is not a useful measure unless you can compare it to what someone plays like as non-town, and most of the meta reads in this game don't touch on that at all. It's frustrating bc we just get left with "actually nah this read falls apart because they play like that normally" but that doesn't like, clear them? Just shoves them further into the null mud.
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Yeah no I'm feeling this more as the day passes

I guess the thing is like. We could do what ck said and try to find townies in the actives but my pov is, the townreads I'm confident in the active posters are you, hyhy and CK. Atp dbd/ag/lechen/ne/pulsar/des/skip all have had meta arguments which doesn't really help with figuring out who is scummier.

So we're left with mekkah/sunny/Vizh to solve but tbh I think Vizh has had a pretty good D2 so. Yeah.
 
bluedoom said:
Yeah no I'm feeling this more as the day passes

I guess the thing is like. We could do what ck said and try to find townies in the actives but my pov is, the townreads I'm confident in the active posters are you, hyhy and CK. Atp dbd/ag/lechen/ne/pulsar/des/skip all have had meta arguments which doesn't really help with figuring out who is scummier.

So we're left with mekkah/sunny/Vizh to solve but tbh I think Vizh has had a pretty good D2 so. Yeah.
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Also bluedoom I asked u a question earlier to didn't get a response from u?
 
Fwiw the thing I remember of scum! Lechen is that he tunnel bussed his buddy in that one game with lost mafia(ck was the lost one) and spent the entire game trying to coast off of the bus(and I totally got pocketed). I don't know if that's very helpful as a comparison to his omgus play that i saw as town in low power mafia.
 
Votecount 2.7: i'm flandrs now
bluedoom (3): sunny004, Aura Guardian, skippergamez
skippergamez (3): bluedoom, Lechen, Vizh
pulsar512b (1[2-1]): des121, CrreamyKitty
NightEmerald (2): Dead by Daylight, Mekkah
Dead by Daylight (2): Lechen, HydrogenHydreigon
Aura Guardian (1): charlieum
Vizh (0):

Not Voting (2): Mekkah, a fairy, pulsar512b, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 4 hours. Please don't notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
bluedoom said:
Yeah no I'm feeling this more as the day passes

I guess the thing is like. We could do what ck said and try to find townies in the actives but my pov is, the townreads I'm confident in the active posters are you, hyhy and CK. Atp dbd/ag/lechen/ne/pulsar/des/skip all have had meta arguments which doesn't really help with figuring out who is scummier.

So we're left with mekkah/sunny/Vizh to solve but tbh I think Vizh has had a pretty good D2 so. Yeah.
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I do believe NE and ag both have decent readons to be town in my mind, the rest are admittedly hard to sort but I probably vote in the pool of skip/dbd/lechen, which is quite a hard pool for me to sort out admittedly.
 
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