Approved by G-Luke and Ludicrousity
We all know that a Pokémon can only evolve up to two times... but not every second Evolutions have a place in competitive and even friendly battles (unless you are a crazy prepared skilled trainer). And as scientists searches further, there is hidden, secret and wasted potentials that the Second Evolution Pokémon could have.
Some second stage Evolution Pokémon have a base stat total weaker than average second stage Pokémon, which includes but not limited to the likes of most Early Bug Pokémon, Raichu, Wigglytuff, Reuniclus, Gothitelle and Toucannon.
However, there are also some second stage Evolution Pokémon that have suffisently high BST... but are considered as "Unranked" in a certain competitive scene and become very seldom seen in another. There are the likes of Electivire, Dusknoir, Politoed, Vileplume and Bellossom that have untapped potentials.
But what if... there is another evolution for a second stage Pokémon? We all know that Mega Evolution can act like this, but with often mixed results. Scientists soon discovers that the Pokémon in question can evolve one more time... and possibly pull out their full potential and become a worthy addition to a dream team.
Behold a further step of evolution that is not Mega Evolution.
Fourth Frontier
Fourth Frontier is basically a way to say a fourth stage of a Pokemon evolution. Here are what are the Evolution Stages as we all know about in Pokemon; Basic, Stage 1 and Stage 2.The goal here is to give a Stage 3 evolution (the fourth slot of an evolution line) for a Stage 2 Evolution Pokemon with BST lower than 500. This allows for some theorymonning of if just one more evolution for a three-staged Pokemon line could be possible, especially with Pokemon with below average BST or is Untiered (especially those with below average BST).
Here is the list of Pokemon with BST below 500, thus compatible for the Pet Mod's slates.
Pokémon (BST) | Tier + Branching Evolution Possibility | Notice |
---|---|---|
Talonflame (499 BST) | RUBL, Branching Evolution Possible. | Talonflame have Gale Wings. |
Golem + Alolan Golem (495 BST) | Both Untiered, Branching Evolution Not Possible. | Kanto and Alola Golem Evo doesn't need to have same stats. |
Gothitelle (490 BST) | Untiered, Branching Evolution Possible. | It got Shadow Tag... which is banned from anything not Ubers and AG anyways. |
Reuniclus (490 BST) | RUBL, Branching Evolution Possible. | Have Magic Guard and Regenerator. |
Exploud (490 BST) | NUBL, Branching Evolution Possible. | Have Boomburst. |
Vileplume (490 BST) | NU, Branching Evolution Not Possible. | More offensive oriented than Bellossom. |
Bellossom (490 BST) | Untiered, Branching Evolution Not Possible. | More defensive oriented than Vileplume. |
Victreebel (490 BST) | Untiered, Branching Evolution Possible | Lacking coverage. |
Unfeazant (488 BST) | Untiered, Branching Evolution Not Possible | Male and Female Unfeazant Evo can have different Stats and Abilities. |
Toucannon (485 BST) | Untiered, Branching Evolution Possible | Have Sheer Force and Skill Link. |
Staraptor (485 BST) | UUBL, Branching Evolution Not Recommended but Possible | Have both Intimidate and Reckless. |
Scolipede (485 BST) | UUBL, Branching Evolution Possible | Have Speed Boost. Make the Evo with caution with that in mind! |
Raichu + Alolan Raichu (485 BST) | Raichu is Untiered, Alolan Raichu is PU. Branching Evolution Not Possible. | A Hidden Ability can be given for Alolan Raichu's evo (and Alolan Raichu for consistency). |
Clefable (483 BST) | OU. Branching Evolution Possible | Clefable is OU material, so potential ban does to benefit from Eviolite. |
Shiftry (480 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Possible. | Nothing to note apart of Chlorophyll. |
Ludicolo (480 BST) | PU. Branching Evolution Possible. | Have Shift Swim |
Pidgeot (479 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution not Recommended but Possible. | Have a Mega Evoultion; normal Evolution may need to be distinct from Mega Pidgeot. |
Jumpluff (460 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Possible. | Have Chlorophyll and is already fast. |
Wigglytuff (435 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Possible, if not Guaranteed. | Have Competitive. A more physical-oriented evo can have Defiant. |
Azumarill (420 BST) | UUBL. Branching Evolution not Recommended but Possible. | Have Huge Power. Make the Evo with caution with that in mind! Azumarill's potential ban with Eviolite |
Vivillion (411 BST) | NU. Branching Evolution not Recommended. | Have Powder. May need distinction from Butterfree and Beautifly. |
Beautifly (395 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Not Possible. | May need further distinction from Butterfree and Vivillion. |
Butterfree (395 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Possible. | May need further distinction from Beautifly and Vivillion... notice a pattern here? |
Beedrill (395 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Not Recommended but Possible. | Have a Mega Evolution; normal Evolution for Beedrill may need to be more distinct from Mega Beedrill. |
Dustox (385 BST) | Untiered. Branching Evolution Not Possible. | Dustox's Evo will have the same BST as Beautifly's Evo. |
- Dusknoir
- Electivire
- Leavanny
- Luxray
- Meganium
- Politoed
- Slaking (we just need a simple solution for this one)
- Ampharos (Have a Mega)
- Walrein
- Poliwrath will also get an Evolution like Politoed, because both are the final evos of Poliwag, and just Politoed wouldn't make it fair.
- There will be three slates out of three of those Untiered Pokemon (with Poliwrath as an "extra" to go along with Politoed).
- First and foremost, this will take place in OU. As such, be very sensible as to not make it broken in practice. I (and anyone else, especially a Council Member) will judge if anything is deems to broken, and if a submission won but turns out to be genuinely broken, we will take measures such as engaging a nerf slate. Same goes for underwhelming submissions but with buff slates.
- Respect the Submission How-To as seen below, and follow the directives that is written after each bolded parts before you overwrite them for your submissions. Respect the slate's directives for the slated Pokemon's Evolution as well (such as BST limit if given, Ability limit, etc).
- If the slated Pokemon would be compatible for a brenched Evolution, you may add a paired submission for a brenched evolution, and they will be voted altogether during the voting phase.
- You may do up to two submissions per slated Pokemon. Paired submissions for a brenched Evolutions will count as a single submission.
- During the voting phase, you will vote up to three submissions. Voting for a paired submissions for a brenched evolution will count as one. You may self-vote, but only for one submission/paired submission per slated Pokemon, and you cannot vote to only your submissions.
- If more than one submission for one slated Pokemon had the highest votes, and if the slated Pokemon isn't allowed to have a Brenched evo, a tie-break will proceed during the submission and/or discussion slate.
- If the slated Pokemon is allowed to be brenched and only two solo submissions have the highest vote, then both will be selected as winners. If either is a paired submission, or if there is more than two solo submissions, then the tie-break will proceed as normal.
- Custom Moves and Abilities are allowed, but only one Custom Move and Ability for Submission. The custom Moves and Abilities should also be a clone of an existing Move/Ability, or if you provide a code for them.
- For Signature Moves and Abilities, those used by only Legendary Pokemon (or Mythical, or Ultra Beasts) are not allowed. Signature Moves used by non-Legendary Pokemon are okay, but be sensible with what you gives to which Evolution you are making.
- Making clones of Legendary Signature Moves can be okay as long as it have at least a different typing and wouldn't be overpowered on the submission. Remember that they have high BST in general. Clones of Legendary Signature Abilities are also applied for this case. Hard-coded Abilities (Disguise, Forecast, RKS System) cannot be given however.
- Most importantly, this will take place in OU environment, so be extra sensible when doing your submissions! OU was already known to be somewhat stagnant so making your Evolutions directly counters some of the A and S ranked OU mons can be ideal. Be sure that none of them have completely absurd min-maxing for stats, and don't give a borked Ability (custom or not) for anyone of them. There is a reason why we have "Is It Overpowered?" part for the submission format.
Pre-Evolution: The Pokémon in question that is about to receive the respective evolution. Method of evolution can be included, but it should not be repeated from previous evolution method.
Pokémon Name: The name of the submission. Try to respect the naming scheme of the Pokémon line, as will be indicated at the start of each slate.
Pokémon Typing: The type of the Pokémon. You cannot change both of the types of a dual-typed Pokémon, and you cannot replace the sole type of a single-typed Pokémon (unless the sole type is Normal). You may, however, add a new type to a single-typed Pokemon and change only one of types of a dual-typed Pokémon.
Abilities: Be sure to give an equal amount of Abilities from the pre-evolution to the evolution, but you can change the Abilities as long as it have some flavorful sense. 1 Custom Ability can be given.
Stats: HP / Atk / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe | BST (HP cannot be lower than the "pseudo-fully evolved" base HP. A BST max limit may also be imposed for each slated Pokémon if necessary, but it cannot be lower than the respective Pokemon. You should not go blatantly min-maxing with the base stats either, or raise an already high stat to an unreasonable level. Swapping stats are permitted, but be sure to specify what stats you had swapped, and HP still cannot be swapped if it would result it being lower after swapping.)
New Moves: There is no real limit for adding moves, but be sensible about it. No need to give an insane coverage to the Pokémon in question. You can add 15-ish if the pre-evolution have a limited movepool, but still, don’t go insane with coverage and support. Because "learned from pre-evolutions" is a thing, you cannot remove any moves from the Submission and its pre-evolutions.
Custom Elements: You will explain what is the Move and the Ability are a clone of an existing move/ability. I may not accept a blatant copy-paste of a Legendary Move (unless if given different type) or Ability. If the custom Move/Ability isn't a clone of anything, please provide a code below your submissions, and be sure they are not uber complex.
Height + Weight: Since they are evolution, they will be typically bigger and heavier than their pre-evo. A few moves like Grass Knot, Heavy Slam and Low Kick will utilize weight as part of Base Power calculation, so be sure to provide weight. Don’t go over the top with the height/weight ratio, as unless you provide a good reason in the Description, an evolution with 1.2 meter but 900 kg compared to the pre-evolution doesn’t seems very stay-true to the line.
Description: Optional, but will help for sprites and other art-related activities. Describe how the Evolution would look like, or at least in comparison to its pre-evolution.
Competitive Uses: Describe what they can do in OU. Bringing damage calculation and movesets into mind are optional, but help others to judge if they would be reasonable or not for the OU tier.
Is It Overpowered?: Explain the potential weaknesses of your submission. A sweeper should have weak defenses while a wallbreaker should be slow, or point about OU threats, status or type that will give it a hard time.
Movesets: Optional, but will help giving a detail of a general moveset or two they can use in OU.
(Empty copy; you can copy-paste this one for your own submissions)
Pre-Evolution:
Pokémon Name:
Pokémon Typing:
Abilities:
Stats: HP / Atk / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe | (#) BST
New Moves:
Custom Elements:
Height + Weight:
Description:
Competitive Uses:
Is It Overpowered?:
Movesets:
(* Legendary Signature Ability, but you can make a clone out of it as long as they aren't 100% the same except the name.)
5:
Delta Stream
Desolate Land
Huge Power
Moody (note: Globally banned)
Parental Bond
Primordial Sea
Pure Power
Shadow Tag
Water Bubble
Wonder Guard
4.5:
Arena Trap
Beast Boost
Comatose
Drizzle
Drought
Electric Surge
Fur Coat
Grassy Surge
Impostor
Magic Bounce
Magic Guard
Magnet Pull
Prankster
Protean
Psychic Surge
Sand Stream
Simple
Speed Boost
Stakeout
4:
Adaptability
Aerilate
Contrary
Download
Fluffy
Galvanize
Illusion
Misty Surge
Multiscale
No Guard
Pixilate
Refrigerate
Regenerator
Serene Grace
Shadow Shield
Sheer Force
Snow Warning
Stamina
Tough Claws
Triage
3.5:
Berserk
Compoundeyes
Corrosion
Dry Skin
Flower Veil
Innards Out
Intimidate
Levitate
Lightningrod
Mega Launcher
Mold Breaker
Moxie
Natural Cure
Sap Sipper
Shed Skin
Soul-Heart*
Storm Drain
Technician
Teravolt
Thick Fat
Tinted Lens
Turboblaze
Volt Absorb
Unburden
3:
Air Lock
Bulletproof
Cloud Nine
Dark Aura*
Dazzling
Fairy Aura*
Filter
Flash Fire
Guts
Hustle
Infiltrator
Iron Barb
Iron Fist
Limber
Motor Drive
Poison Heal
Prism Armor
Queenly Majesty
Reckless
Rock Head
Rough Skin
Scrappy
Skill Link
Solid Rock
Steelworker
Strong Jaw
Sturdy
Toxic Boost
Trace
Unaware
Water Veil
2.5:
Aftermath
Chlorophyll
Competitive
Dancer
Defiant
Early Bird
Flare Boost
Flower Gift
Gooey
Harvest
Heatproof
Marvel Scale
Merciless
Overcoat
Quick Feet
Sand Rush
Shield Dust
Slush Rush
Surge Surfer
Swift Swim
Synchronize
Tangling Hair
Victory Star
2:
Analytic
Anger Point
Aura Break
Bad Dreams
Blaze
Clear Body
Cursed Body
Effect Spore
Flame Body
Full Metal Body
Gale Wings
Hydration
Immunity
Insomnia
Justified
Long Reach
Mummy
Overgrow
Poison Point
Poison Touch
Sand Force
Soundproof
Static
Suction Cups
Swarm
Sweet Veil
Torrent
Vital Spirit
Water Compaction
White Smoke
Wonder Skin
Cheek Pouch
1.5:
Aroma Veil
Frisk
Hyper Cutter
Ice Body
Inner Focus
Liquid Ooze
Liquid Voice
Pressure
Rain Dish
Rattled
Sand Veil
Snow Cloak
Solar Power
Sticky Hold
Super Luck
Unnerve
Weak Armor
1:
Anticipation
Battle Armor
Color Change
Cute Charm
Damp
Forewarn
Gluttony
Keen Eye
Leaf Guard
Light Metal
Magician
Oblivious
Own Tempo
Shell Armor
Sniper
Steadfast
Tangled Feet
Pickpocket
Pickup
0.5:
Big Pecks
Emergency Exit
Grass Pelt
Magma Armor
Rivalry
Stench
Wimp Out
0:
Battery
Friend Guard
Healer
Honey Gather
Illuminate
Minus
Plus
Power of Alchemy
Receiver
Runaway
Symbiosis
Telepathy
-1:
Defeatist
Heavy Metal
Klutz
Normalize
Stall
-2:
Slow Start*
Truant
Hardcoded (Do not use)
Battle Bond
Forecast
Disguise
Multitype
Power Construct
RKS System
Schooling
Shields Down
Stance Change
Zen Mode
5:
Delta Stream
Desolate Land
Huge Power
Moody (note: Globally banned)
Parental Bond
Primordial Sea
Pure Power
Shadow Tag
Water Bubble
Wonder Guard
4.5:
Arena Trap
Beast Boost
Comatose
Drizzle
Drought
Electric Surge
Fur Coat
Grassy Surge
Impostor
Magic Bounce
Magic Guard
Magnet Pull
Prankster
Protean
Psychic Surge
Sand Stream
Simple
Speed Boost
Stakeout
4:
Adaptability
Aerilate
Contrary
Download
Fluffy
Galvanize
Illusion
Misty Surge
Multiscale
No Guard
Pixilate
Refrigerate
Regenerator
Serene Grace
Shadow Shield
Sheer Force
Snow Warning
Stamina
Tough Claws
Triage
3.5:
Berserk
Compoundeyes
Corrosion
Dry Skin
Flower Veil
Innards Out
Intimidate
Levitate
Lightningrod
Mega Launcher
Mold Breaker
Moxie
Natural Cure
Sap Sipper
Shed Skin
Soul-Heart*
Storm Drain
Technician
Teravolt
Thick Fat
Tinted Lens
Turboblaze
Volt Absorb
Unburden
3:
Air Lock
Bulletproof
Cloud Nine
Dark Aura*
Dazzling
Fairy Aura*
Filter
Flash Fire
Guts
Hustle
Infiltrator
Iron Barb
Iron Fist
Limber
Motor Drive
Poison Heal
Prism Armor
Queenly Majesty
Reckless
Rock Head
Rough Skin
Scrappy
Skill Link
Solid Rock
Steelworker
Strong Jaw
Sturdy
Toxic Boost
Trace
Unaware
Water Veil
2.5:
Aftermath
Chlorophyll
Competitive
Dancer
Defiant
Early Bird
Flare Boost
Flower Gift
Gooey
Harvest
Heatproof
Marvel Scale
Merciless
Overcoat
Quick Feet
Sand Rush
Shield Dust
Slush Rush
Surge Surfer
Swift Swim
Synchronize
Tangling Hair
Victory Star
2:
Analytic
Anger Point
Aura Break
Bad Dreams
Blaze
Clear Body
Cursed Body
Effect Spore
Flame Body
Full Metal Body
Gale Wings
Hydration
Immunity
Insomnia
Justified
Long Reach
Mummy
Overgrow
Poison Point
Poison Touch
Sand Force
Soundproof
Static
Suction Cups
Swarm
Sweet Veil
Torrent
Vital Spirit
Water Compaction
White Smoke
Wonder Skin
Cheek Pouch
1.5:
Aroma Veil
Frisk
Hyper Cutter
Ice Body
Inner Focus
Liquid Ooze
Liquid Voice
Pressure
Rain Dish
Rattled
Sand Veil
Snow Cloak
Solar Power
Sticky Hold
Super Luck
Unnerve
Weak Armor
1:
Anticipation
Battle Armor
Color Change
Cute Charm
Damp
Forewarn
Gluttony
Keen Eye
Leaf Guard
Light Metal
Magician
Oblivious
Own Tempo
Shell Armor
Sniper
Steadfast
Tangled Feet
Pickpocket
Pickup
0.5:
Big Pecks
Emergency Exit
Grass Pelt
Magma Armor
Rivalry
Stench
Wimp Out
0:
Battery
Friend Guard
Healer
Honey Gather
Illuminate
Minus
Plus
Power of Alchemy
Receiver
Runaway
Symbiosis
Telepathy
-1:
Defeatist
Heavy Metal
Klutz
Normalize
Stall
-2:
Slow Start*
Truant
Hardcoded (Do not use)
Battle Bond
Forecast
Disguise
Multitype
Power Construct
RKS System
Schooling
Shields Down
Stance Change
Zen Mode
Having at least one submission won in three slates allows you to choose any of the unpicked Pokemon for the next slate. Up to three person can choose the next Pokemon for the next slate at a time. I (Samtendo09) make myself an exception because, well, I am the host of the Pet Mod, though I focus on making a pattern.
Council Members:
- Samtendo09 (Leader, Founder and Spreadsheet editor)
Discord Server: https://discord.gg/raMXBgj
Q&As
- Question 1: Clefable, Azumarill and Reuniclus are considered as viable in OU. What would we do for them?
- Answer 1: This highly depends if the participants and council members agreed to allow those three to have an evolution at potential risk of making them too powerful with Eviolite. Should any of those three would prove unhealthy for the metagame, then their evolution will still stay unless they proved to be broken too (which then will be nerfed to a more reasonable level).
- Question 2: Would it be possible to give an evolution to a Pokemon that is a second stage evolution but have a BST of 500 or higher and isn't Unranked?
- Answer 2: Right now we will focus highly on Pokemon with BST lower than 500 and Unranked Pokemon (plus Poliwrath). If people accepts doing an evolution for any second stage evolution Pokemon that aren't in neither condition, then we may perform some extra slates, but with some restrictions.
- Question 3: Should we encourage type diversity between the Pokemon's evolutions?
- Answer 3: Why, of course! You do not need to follow 100% of what the slated Pokemon have; your evolution can have its typing, Abilities, stats and even design different from the slated Pokemon, like how the likes Gyarados, Steelix, Scizor, Masquerain and both of Clamperl's evolutions (Gorebyss and Huntail) have at least one different Ability, stats that doesn't follow the stat distribution of their pre-evolution, and sometimes at least a different type (or if single typed, gaining a new one). You do have to be sure that it still have some connections with the slated Pokemon design-wise, such as keeping Raichu's lightning-shaped tail and circle cheeks, as well as keeping at least one of its type.
- Question 4: Here's one big question, and I will say it in two words... Why Slaking?
- Answer 4: I understand your shock/surprise. Slaking is a second stage Pokemon that is Unranked, and despite Slaking's legendary level of BST, Truant singlehandedly held it back so badly. Its evolution should focus on giving a less crippling but still negative Ability while keeping with Slaking's legendary level of BST, or a riskier evolution that nevertheless very rewarding if used right. Slaking itself may benefit Eviolite, but although it makes Slaking much harder to get revenge killed, walls can just use Protect (and variants) the moment it can attack like always.
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