Few things.
In response to what STABLE has said, the VR on the OP was outdated by quite a bit at that time of your post. I post shifts and update the OP every month or so, and with PL just ending, I started to get others to work on shifts. There's a link on the VR post that gives the full live votes of every council member at any given time, so that likely would be a better indicator of where people stand on particular pokemon, given that they've done their votes recently.
Also, it's been a month or so. Here's the new VR - theres like 35 shifts so I'll just post the whole thing:
As always, giving your opinions on what should drop and rise is always appreciated.
Also, I'll take a moment to give my current thoughts on the metagame:
Urshifu is quite obviously the best mon in the metagame. Great 120 BP STABs alongside the ability to bypass Protect with its Unseen Fists is insane in 2v2. It’s taken a step back from what it was in DLC1, in which it was completely and utterly stupid, but it’s still insane. It synergizes extremely well with a great variety of mons, particularly faster ones such as Zeraora, Naganadel, and Tornadus. I’ve really been loving using Naganadel with it due to its great capability to take on Fairies, which generally are the main form of counterplay against Urshifu.
I wasn’t as high on Tornadus before (I still had it at like A+ for like 2 months) but my god this shits insane. Priority Tailwind has always been a great asset to teams in 2v2 since DLC1 when the users were Whimsicott and Talonflame but torn takes it to another level with its offensive capabilities. STAB Hurricane, while annoying to miss, can nab OHKOs, along with being amazing to have in a meta with the likes of Urshifu and Rillaboom.
My god this shit’s stupid lmfao. I knew Libero in conjunction with its high BP coverage was good but my god I didn’t realize it cleanly OHKOs the likes of Zeraora and Tornadus with Pyro Ball. HJK and Gunk Shot are also great options to hit the likes of Urshifu, Kyurem-Black, Tapu Fini, and Togekiss.
Few Rises / Drops I’d like to see:
A -> A+
I love Power Herb + Meteor Beam. Beam OHKOs is great at nabbing KOs, and another SpA boost from Beast Boost can clean with Fake Out support. It Synergizes really well with Urshifu and Tornadus too.
A -> A+
I understand that it's weird to nom a Psychic that literally does nothing to Urshifu in current SS, but I feel Indeedee’s prowess as a support option is worth considering the rise. I’ve always been a fan of redirection in 2v2 and Indeedee is probably the best user of it right now. Psychic Terrain negates priority like Fake Out alongside powering up its Expanding Force. While Psyspam as a team style has been fairly dead for a few months by now, some teams just outright lose to it due to lack of preparation. By the way, use Hatterene instead of Alakazam. Zam is garbage.
A- -> A/A+
I agree w/ stable here, pretty much.
B+ -> A-
I’ve been using it during my reqs run and it's a surprisingly good abuser of Tailwind. Also Power Herb is pretty nice, being able to OHKO the likes of Urshifu and Rillaboom given they don’t click Protect, alongside pretty good physical bulk.
Wherever they are -> D/UR
I don’t think they’ve been used at all. I don’t like them as mons in this meta, ngl.
Closing thoughts
Personally, I think Urshifu-S is worthy of a suspect test at this point due to the reasons mentioned above. To some degree, I believe it is the reason the metagame is so centered around fast speed control. Obviously, credit has to be given to the new speed mechanics, alongside potent setters and abusers but I feel Urshifu’s ability to invalidate anti-speed control measures such as Trick Room plays some part in it.
As for the talks on Pokemon such as Kyurem-Black and Tapu Fini being worse than they used to be, I agree that they are not what they used to be when DLC2 just came out, but their versatility still makes them top tier threats.
Anyways, that's all I have to say. As always, thanks for reading, and have a nice day. Mubs out.
In response to what STABLE has said, the VR on the OP was outdated by quite a bit at that time of your post. I post shifts and update the OP every month or so, and with PL just ending, I started to get others to work on shifts. There's a link on the VR post that gives the full live votes of every council member at any given time, so that likely would be a better indicator of where people stand on particular pokemon, given that they've done their votes recently.
Also, it's been a month or so. Here's the new VR - theres like 35 shifts so I'll just post the whole thing:
S
Urshifu-Single-Strike
S-
Cinderace
Rillaboom
Naganadel
Tapu Fini
Zeraora
A+
Genesect
Kyurem-Black
Tornadus
Zapdos
A
Incineroar
Indeedee-F
Nihilego
Pheromosa
Tapu Lele
Togekiss
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Zapdos-Galar
Zygarde
A-
Kartana
Landorus
Mew
Regieleki
Victini
Whimsicott
B+
Amoonguss
Blastoise
Diancie
Heatran
Landorus-Therian
Moltres-Galar
Regidrago
Talonflame
Terrakion
Volcanion
Volcarona
B
Celesteela
Dracozolt
Latios
Metagross
Suicune
Thundurus
Tsareena
Tyranitar
B-
Alakazam
Hawlucha
Necrozma
Porygon2
Scrafty
Tapu Koko
Torkoal
Venusaur
C+
Aegislash
Blaziken
Cresselia
Entei
Garchomp
Kingdra
Mienshao
Ninetales-Alola
Pincurchin
Politoed
Primarina
Salazzle
Scizor
C
Nidoking
Comfey
Glastrier
Hatterene
Salamence
Slowking-Galar
C-
Pelipper
Thundurus-Therian
D
Excadrill
Grimmsnarl
Urshifu-Single-Strike
S-
Cinderace
Rillaboom
Naganadel
Tapu Fini
Zeraora
A+
Genesect
Kyurem-Black
Tornadus
Zapdos
A
Incineroar
Indeedee-F
Nihilego
Pheromosa
Tapu Lele
Togekiss
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Zapdos-Galar
Zygarde
A-
Kartana
Landorus
Mew
Regieleki
Victini
Whimsicott
B+
Amoonguss
Blastoise
Diancie
Heatran
Landorus-Therian
Moltres-Galar
Regidrago
Talonflame
Terrakion
Volcanion
Volcarona
B
Celesteela
Dracozolt
Latios
Metagross
Suicune
Thundurus
Tsareena
Tyranitar
B-
Alakazam
Hawlucha
Necrozma
Porygon2
Scrafty
Tapu Koko
Torkoal
Venusaur
C+
Aegislash
Blaziken
Cresselia
Entei
Garchomp
Kingdra
Mienshao
Ninetales-Alola
Pincurchin
Politoed
Primarina
Salazzle
Scizor
C
Nidoking
Comfey
Glastrier
Hatterene
Salamence
Slowking-Galar
C-
Pelipper
Thundurus-Therian
D
Excadrill
Grimmsnarl
Also, I'll take a moment to give my current thoughts on the metagame:
Urshifu is quite obviously the best mon in the metagame. Great 120 BP STABs alongside the ability to bypass Protect with its Unseen Fists is insane in 2v2. It’s taken a step back from what it was in DLC1, in which it was completely and utterly stupid, but it’s still insane. It synergizes extremely well with a great variety of mons, particularly faster ones such as Zeraora, Naganadel, and Tornadus. I’ve really been loving using Naganadel with it due to its great capability to take on Fairies, which generally are the main form of counterplay against Urshifu.
I wasn’t as high on Tornadus before (I still had it at like A+ for like 2 months) but my god this shits insane. Priority Tailwind has always been a great asset to teams in 2v2 since DLC1 when the users were Whimsicott and Talonflame but torn takes it to another level with its offensive capabilities. STAB Hurricane, while annoying to miss, can nab OHKOs, along with being amazing to have in a meta with the likes of Urshifu and Rillaboom.
My god this shit’s stupid lmfao. I knew Libero in conjunction with its high BP coverage was good but my god I didn’t realize it cleanly OHKOs the likes of Zeraora and Tornadus with Pyro Ball. HJK and Gunk Shot are also great options to hit the likes of Urshifu, Kyurem-Black, Tapu Fini, and Togekiss.
Few Rises / Drops I’d like to see:
A -> A+
I love Power Herb + Meteor Beam. Beam OHKOs is great at nabbing KOs, and another SpA boost from Beast Boost can clean with Fake Out support. It Synergizes really well with Urshifu and Tornadus too.
A -> A+
I understand that it's weird to nom a Psychic that literally does nothing to Urshifu in current SS, but I feel Indeedee’s prowess as a support option is worth considering the rise. I’ve always been a fan of redirection in 2v2 and Indeedee is probably the best user of it right now. Psychic Terrain negates priority like Fake Out alongside powering up its Expanding Force. While Psyspam as a team style has been fairly dead for a few months by now, some teams just outright lose to it due to lack of preparation. By the way, use Hatterene instead of Alakazam. Zam is garbage.
A- -> A/A+
I agree w/ stable here, pretty much.
B+ -> A-
I’ve been using it during my reqs run and it's a surprisingly good abuser of Tailwind. Also Power Herb is pretty nice, being able to OHKO the likes of Urshifu and Rillaboom given they don’t click Protect, alongside pretty good physical bulk.
Wherever they are -> D/UR
I don’t think they’ve been used at all. I don’t like them as mons in this meta, ngl.
Closing thoughts
Personally, I think Urshifu-S is worthy of a suspect test at this point due to the reasons mentioned above. To some degree, I believe it is the reason the metagame is so centered around fast speed control. Obviously, credit has to be given to the new speed mechanics, alongside potent setters and abusers but I feel Urshifu’s ability to invalidate anti-speed control measures such as Trick Room plays some part in it.
As for the talks on Pokemon such as Kyurem-Black and Tapu Fini being worse than they used to be, I agree that they are not what they used to be when DLC2 just came out, but their versatility still makes them top tier threats.
Anyways, that's all I have to say. As always, thanks for reading, and have a nice day. Mubs out.