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May as well be the first one I think okidogi is banworthy.. if weavile is not ban worthy then this at least is. This mon is kinda a ridiculous progress maker ... not only is it amazing at trading with every mon in the tier but after a bu your options vs it are basically poison dirge, trade...

I want to ask about :azumarill: People say azumarill isnt the crap mon that it is, but to my knowledge and from watching tours its a mon that really struggles. Curious what others think about it. I am not gonna post another discussion about it cuz i alr did in my nom, but to my knowledge azu...

Weavile: Ban

:ting-lu: :cinderace: :gholdengo:

DOes m chomp count

TEAM 1 https://pokepast.es/baa7f6ae2a34a3a0 :lilligant-hisui: :mew: :serperior: :revavroom: :manaphy: :lokix: This team is a funny team that (gets 6-0ed by taunt torn-t) applies a lot of pressure and is a team I have been rocking to decent success on ladder, this team utilizes hazards mew...

https://pokepast.es/31eaebf3ab88f41e :weavile: :skarmory: :tornadus-therian: :slowking: :excadrill: :okidogi: i got reqs with this... this team utilizes spikes + weavile to get progress early game, with double switches into weavile to predict slowking, torn-t, serp, hydrapple, etc are nice it...

https://pokepast.es/eb7596d01c514b4e here is an odd team :dp/metagross: :dp/abomasnow: :dp/heatran: :dp/latias: :dp/rotom-wash: :dp/suicune: Latias is the first mon i chose, on this team latias takes advantage of hail chip + strong dragon moves to chunk opponents into range. This allows...

Isn't tour usage the main metric to determine if smth is good or not? ladder for all i know has been deemed a bad way to tell if smth is good or not, and any ladder games can be chalked up to good luck, a bad opponent, or a bad team from them I think all throughout SV UU lifespan, the uu ladder...

:Zapdos-Galar: from UR to C :Golurk: from UR to C :Iron Jugulis: from UR to C :Palossand: from UR to C :Slowbro: from UR to C Curious about all these shifts... 90% of them feel like they had 0 tour use to back them up esp ones like palo, golurk, and zapdos-g :Cyclizar: from C to UR...

- Just because it wasnt sent out doesnt mean it wouldnt have done its job, its smth any person can really se how weak the team is to weavile esp with keldeo being like the one mon who absorbs it and its been known for a while how shit specs keld is a knock absorber (just like how smth like ur...

:dp/Rhyperior: @ Leftovers Ability: Solid Rock Tera Type: Dragon / Water EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 188 SpD / 56 Spe Adamant Nature - Earthquake - Stone Edge - Swords Dance - Stealth Rock / Megahorn What does this do? Well 3 things... 1. takes advantage of smth like skarm, thanks to it not...

Kingambit @ Leftovers Ability: Supreme Overlord EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spe Tera Type: Flying Adamant Nature - Swords Dance - Kowtow Cleave - Sucker Punch - Iron Head It is a check on more offensive teams kingambit works pretty well at screwing over iron crown, it takes on taychon cutter ok...

This is strange at least because weavile does do a lot of progress by even hitting the field, stuff like slowking, hydrapple, torn-t, thundy-t, serp, latios, cornerstone, SD zarude, dirge, gastrodon, gligar, etc dont really wanna stay in... Even mons that may want to switch out but threaten...

- disagree about proposal 1, i feel slowbro alr gets forced out so often by stuff like zapdos and being able to use slowbro as a CM sweeper or just a tank with slack off and being able to fire off scalds to 1v1 mons is nice - m aggron would be super nuts on hard stall, the +1 def is invaluable...

For the bottom team, the unlosable MU is prob having phys def moltres, weavile, and future port with potentially an SD gliscor of their own. This MU looks very winnable for 2 as the weavile just kinda goes uncontested esp since prim, deo-s, and gholdengo prob can fire off attacks but get stopped...

can we please just single out a mon instead of just shitting on each other for 90% of the thread, zama-h is prob not the biggest problem and perosnally i think gliscor is (even if kyurem made it balanced then idk how well that works as an excuse if one mon is all it took for it to be seen as...

2. you got the wrong paste btw

Btw, weavile doesnt really reveal much about its set, ice shard is smth it clicks rarely, and low kick is smth u assume it has before u throw out ur cobalion face first into it (either way tera ice can really t axel it into range of itself) Weavile also can afford SD because since you do not...