none of these are convincing arguments to me
especially since I thought most of those arguments you mentioned (like vert's and zone's) were pretty bad
i genuinely dont care if other mons are more broken or not, like i said, if you just randomly removed two threats it'd be done
you can say get rid of rain, but rain wouldn't be as hard if other threats did not also take up a lot of the builder; it really does not matter what we get rid of, we just have to get rid of something
by the point of voting, you can wish it was a different pokemon being suspected all you want, but IMO it's pretty obvious that axing kyurem would only have improved the tier by alleviating matchups
also god that "so many checks" argument is stupid; THOSE LITERALLY ONLY WORK ON OFFENSE. THEY ARE TEMPORARY CHECKS.
If your fucking "answer" requires Air Balloon, it works once. Your answer to a Pokemon literally being axed if it gets hit by a 2% damage U-Turn is not a strong answer.
Weavile is not an answer like wtf lmao, it is a mon that can help in the matchup but it isn't something you can continuously switch into
Air Balloon only works for Offense which can try and win first. But guess what, the tier should not try to balance itself just around Offense lmao
Here is the thing about non-Boots Kyu. If you have rocks up, Kyurem only has 4-5 opportunities to come in. On the team Kyurem often excels vs, they often have ways to scout or pivot around it such as Protect via Gliscor, Gking, and bulky steels that can eat an EP. So if they can’t keep hazards out, you could outlast Kyurem’s offensive power. DD Kyu is also easy to spot since it’s only on HO. The set I said broke Kyurem was the HDB set. You take away the ability to play around it with hazards. Kyurem also has the ability to run Scale Shot or Stone Edge to hit Volc and Bliss, limiting its counterplay.
Going back to the counterplay. Yes, people have cited Weavile as “counterplay”. While yes it can’t actually switch into Kyurem repeatedly, Weavile can make use of those switch-ins to force progress. It isn’t something you wanna give free turns to. Imo Gen 9 OU isn’t about being able to switch in and wall something, it is about getting value off that switch in. Which is exactly what Weavile and Slowking-G do.
I don’t think the voting results are the end of the world.
First of all there was a close vote, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Kyurem was given a second suspect, similarly to Mega Sableye in Gen 6 (For those who don’t know, yes it was suspected twice, but didn’t get banned til very late).
Secondly, we have
much more time to resolve everything, more than a whole year, and we might resort to shorter suspects to get it over with quicker like with this one. I’m fine with addressing the issue of threat oversaturation one way or another. Personally I would do it in this order.
Archaludon > Moon > (Kyurem and Volc maybe)
The rest are not really problems to me rn.
Gambit and Raging Bolt have reliable counterplay and are good additions to the tier.
Valiant has a big 4MSS.
Deo-S is good but its role is not much different from other mons, in fact it may find itself outclassed in that role. (Samu as a suicide lead and Valiant as a mixed attacker)
Ghold is pretty exploitable due to the higher power level and larger selection of Dark types, plus it doesn’t appreciate the rise of Iron Treads.