the substitute and life orb is for rain only, of course running it outside of rain is a death sentencePersonally, I wouldn't put Life Orb and Substitute on the same set. You'll die WAY too fast to do much. And Parabolic Charge is included as an option on sets with moves like Substitute where you lose HP rapidly in order to maintain longevity.
Personally, I'd rather run Choice Specs, as most of these Pokemon have good Special Defense, (Sorry Hippowdon) and Heliolisk needs the power to muscle through them before they can cripple or OHKO him. If Choice Specs is run, just slap Grass Knot of Hidden Power Ice over Substitute, since it can't abuse it.i just think this guy has what it takes to be an anti weather since it can focus blast ttar, surf hippo and ninetales, and t-bolt poli. It may be lacking specific coverage but it has just enough tools to get the job done. You could probably slap on an expert belt along with a sub for protection since all of them but poli (since most lack focus blast) can ko it and call it a day.
"weather slayer"
252 sp atk/252 spe/4 hp
expert belt
-t-bolt
-focus blast
-surf
-sub
altho keldeo can prob do the same job better regardless of having slightly less speed, heliolisk does have t-bolt and a water/ghost immunity which makes it useable as well.
You guys think that he would be good with an Absorb bulb?
He could switch into water attacks, heal due to Dry Skin, AND get a SP.A boost from the bulb.
Then again, just an idea.
Sig says it all.
Looking at the post above you, for a gimmick, you could run Electrify and Absorb Bulb. Turn whatever move is about to hit you into an electric type and get the free SpA boost.
What are this things egg moves? If it is lucky enough to get decent normal STAB then it could definitely do some work in lower tiers with volt switch/hyper voice/grass knot/surf.
I dont think it works since it doesnt get hit by the water move. just absorbs it. I tried that with gastro and it doesnt activateYou guys think that he would be good with an Absorb bulb?
He could switch into water attacks, heal due to Dry Skin, AND get a SP.A boost from the bulb.
Then again, just an idea.
Sig says it all.
I dont think it works since it doesnt get hit by the water move. just absorbs it. I tried that with gastro and it doesnt activate
is grass knot really necessary? I think water/eletric overlaps too much with grassWhat are this things egg moves? If it is lucky enough to get decent normal STAB then it could definitely do some work in lower tiers with volt switch/hyper voice/grass knot/surf.
For starters, if Heliolisk is gonna be running around in OU, it NEEDS Grass Knot to get past Gastrodon and Quagsire. Otherwise, it's screwed. Next, Hyper Beam is useless in Competitive Battling, since you can't switch out after using it. Though, I will agree that Hidden Power Ice is still useful.is grass knot really necessary? I think water/eletric overlaps too much with grass
Choice Specs/Choice Scarf/Life orb/Expert Belt
Dry Skin
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spd
Timid/Modest
-Volt Switch
-Surf
-FocusBlast/HP Ice
-Hiperbeam/Thunder
I prefer HP ice over FocusBlast, there is probably more stuff with 4x weakness to Ice than stuff you want to use FocusBlast on, also I'm pretty unlucky with it.
Hiperbeam is an options if you go the Choice Scarf/Specs route and has no SE move to use.
this lizard is so frail that anything that attack first or survives the punch will probably kill it.
anyway, he looks like a good check for the new Azulmarill and annoying stuff like roton-W
you're right, hipper beam was a brain fart, I was just brainwashed by a 150BP with STAB + choice specs as a last move before dying.For starters, if Heliolisk is gonna be running around in OU, it NEEDS Grass Knot to get past Gastrodon and Quagsire. Otherwise, it's screwed. Next, Hyper Beam is useless in Competitive Battling, since you can't switch out after using it. Though, I will agree that Hidden Power Ice is still useful.