Well, who really cares when Victini becomes an unstoppable monster? I don't.
This is good.
Choice Band V-Generate
BAM!
Well, who really cares when Victini becomes an unstoppable monster? I don't.
perversity spinda with skill swap+ V-generate victini...?
spinda's likely to die before it can skill swap, and even if it does it's likely to be dead weight afterwards
Wrong. Victini does both Choiced and LO sets better mostly because of that one move, coupled with that fact that his stats and movepool are already better.He does a bulky mixed set better
That mostly because you don't know what you're talking about and probably haven't even touched V-Generate Victini. I have one on my team and it's tearing up PO ladder. If you had any decent experience with it yourself, you wouldn't touch Darmanitan ever again.but 'omg v-generate' is exactly what I don't like seeing, since it's largely unjustified.
This is good.
Choice Specs V-Generate
BAM!
Focus sash would be more reliable IMO. with choice scarf, spinda only reaches 360 speed max. still outsped by a good amount of pokemon. With focus sash, spinda can only be stopped by sandstorm, hail, priority, and taunt.That's exactly what I was thinking! :o
Choice Scarf/Focus Sash in order to swap before being KOed. I would say Choice Scarf myself, as Focus Sash is less useful in Double Battles.
Focus sash would be more reliable IMO. with choice scarf, spinda only reaches 360 speed max. still outsped by a good amount of pokemon. With focus sash, spinda can only be stopped by sandstorm, hail, priority, and taunt.
Perversity reverses the boosts and drops of stat-changing moves, not the effect of the boosts and drops themselves. That's why its effects can be Baton Passed without changing back, for example.Choice Scarf allows it to be faster than Victini so it can give victini Perversity before it lowers its stats while attacking with VGenerate. Unless perversity reverces stat changes that have already occurred.
so in the end.. what.. this guy is more of a physical menace or special?
The Victini I caught in my game is Naughty with a 31 Attack IV. Any use for this at all, seeing as most of its moves are special?
Not sure about the other IVs, I only know it's 31 Attack because it 'Likes to thrash about'. :naughty:
Oh, I forgot about Victory Star.For now, Special. 93% acc. Fire Blast and 77% acc. Thunder/Focus Blast are not to be taken lightly.
SR weakness makes it a lot less formidable though...
Skill Swap is a Gen 4 only TM. End of story.
Victory Star is a 10% accuracy boost. Compoundeyes is 30%.
It's 77% after the boost. Thunder does have 70% accuracy actually.Oh. Well, then. Thanks.
Still, Thunder is not 77%, as it has 75% before the boost. It's 75*1.1=82.5%
So Thunder basically gets the Accuracy of Fire Blast without the boost. Time to SR for a Modest/Timid Victini.
It's 77% after the boost. Thunder does have 70% accuracy actually.
I saw a set on another thread, and I thought it would do quite well:
Antini (Anti-Lead)
Victini@Choice Scarf
Timid Nature
252 HP, 4 SpA, 252 Spe
-Death Gambit (or whatever it is in English)
-Flame Bomb
-U-Turn
-Thunder
As Victini is weak to Stealth Rock, it functions relatively well in the lead spot. 252 HP EVs and Death Gambit, along with 252 Speed EVs, Timid, and a Choice Scarf ensure a speedy death to anything that has Base 100 or lower HP. U-Turn get you out of anything that has higher than B100 HP. The other of the moves are largely filler, though they do provide decent (or not...) coverage.
This is a moveset I made over in the Desperation thread. Since it's for Victini, I may as well bring it over here.
Victory Revenger:
Victini w/ Choice Scarf + Victory Star
Hasty/Naive nature. 252 HP, 252 Speed, 6 Sp Atk
-Desperation (that is what it's called, right?)
-Overheat
-Brick Break (If only he got Superpower/Close Combat...)
-Shadow Ball
100 base speed, 252 speed Evs, a speed+ nature and a Choice Scarf. So pretty frelling fast. I'm pretty sure the only things he won't outspeed are enemies with >100 base speed and either a Choice Scarf or a +2 boost. Desperation combined with that speed lets him come in and go off like a bomb, especially with 252 HP Evs. Overheat is another powerful option if you aren't quite ready to sacrifice him to the greater good, Brick Break deals with Blissey (If only he got one of the two moves I suggested), and Shadow Ball deals with Ghosts hoping to come in for free and/or make him kill himself for nothing.
EVs are for speed and maximum output from Desperation, with the extra dumped into Sp. Atk for a stronger Overheat and Shadow Ball. Oh, yes. If you do go with Focus Blast over Brick Break, run a Timid nature.