why is dedenne significant we may never know, also what prevented zoroark from running sludge bomb in the first place, also ferrothorn be 1v1 magnzezone now with body press, only traps corvi really
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Data Usage-Based Tier Update for June 2020
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Corviknight can run U-Turn
I forgot to mention Kingdra is getting Hurricane
true i forgot, but then specs mag might outspeed and ohko
Well this didn't age well
*Cries in ZUBL*
Why did you list Body Press as if that is a notable addition to Magnezone.
to hit ferro???? and other steel types, also that ferro was said sarcastically
and do what? 20%?
4 Def Magnezone Body Press vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 78-94 (22.1 - 26.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
Bisharp knocks it out with Knock Off after a small amount of chip (or a boost), Excadrill kills it, Scizor (when that arrives) kills it. The only Steels it traps are the Flying types (Corv and Worse Corv with Spikes)
hence the sarcasm
Magnezone could maybe adapt with Iron Defense and defense investment, but that would require giving up either Volt Switch or Flash Cannon, and the defense investment would sap away from speed and/or power investment, making it less effective against things not named Ferrothorn or Bisharp.
They'd be able to be used in any tier (with the exception of some like Chansey and Scyther)
Call me crazy but with Hidden Power gone I deadass think Alolan Golem has a shot at being the better Magnet Puller should it return. It was already seeing fringe usage in USUM OU for being able to trap Heatran and now it's the only one with the precious Fire coverage needed for foes like Ferrothorn and Scizor
Fwiw i think magnezone will still be better, magnezone still traps everything it used to trap beside ferrothorn. It doesnt need hpfire for steels since specs tbolt fries them, max hp scizor gets ohkod after rocks chip for example, lets not forget how hard is it to switch into specs in general too
Golem funnily enough needs choice band to beat corvinight, it does only 50% to ferro without band too
Maybe itll adapt and run banded now since heatran wont exist for a while, so we'll see
Golem funnily enough needs choice band to beat corvinight, it does only 50% to ferro without band too
Maybe itll adapt and run banded now since heatran wont exist for a while, so we'll see
252 Atk Golem-Alola Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 194-230 (48.5 - 57.5%) -- 46.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Golem-Alola Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 184-220 (52.2 - 62.5%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Golem-Alola Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 184-220 (52.2 - 62.5%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Golem-Alola Wild Charge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 320-378 (80 - 94.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Choice Band Golem-Alola Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 304-360 (86.3 - 102.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Golem-Alola Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 304-360 (86.3 - 102.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
I agree with you, but as Young Dramps said, i think alogolem will be used a lot more then it was in USUM. There is no denying mag will be overused(i hope). But alogolem might be used on some teams struggling with ferro and can trap other steels as well.
This would make Pelipper dropping a FATAL mistake! Dra would be better than it was in Gen 7 OU now being able to swap Surf for Hurricane.
NEVERR!!!!!!!!!!!!
corey_axis hydros
This is because these usage stats were posted before the DLC dropped. As such, they never show up.
I hate replying to dead threads...
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