Project SV ZU Personal VR

[sleid]

Hello ZU Community! We're only a few days into the new tier, but why not get started on talking about the Pokémon we are fortunate enough to use. This thread will be used to post your very own personal Viability Ranking for SV ZU. This is a good way for new players to get a brief introduction to the metagame when starting to play and team build. Please read and follow the rules below to help keep this thread clean, but informative!

- Please use the following format when ranking Pokémon. This way we keep the tiers of ranking universal.

Ranking Format

S
:pokémon: Pokémon

A+
:pokémon: Pokémon

A
:pokémon: Pokémon

A-
:pokémon: Pokémon

B+
:pokémon: Pokémon

B
:pokémon: Pokémon

B-
:pokémon: Pokémon

C+
:pokémon: Pokémon

C
:pokémon: Pokémon

C-
:pokémon: Pokémon

- Check out this link of the SS ZU VR to get an idea of how this should look.
- Please use the hide feature on your posts, this way the threads aren't super long. Here is how you do it [.HIDE=Personal VR] insert list [/HIDE]. Don't add the . before the first HIDE or it will not work
- You may edit this list at any time, you can note rises and drops if you wish.
- If you would like to add a description of your reasoning for each ranking, please try to keep it as brief as possible.
- Keep these lists objective, the goal is to help others get an idea of viable Pokémon and ranking your favorites higher than they deserve helps nobody.

That's it! I am excited to see what people come up with!
If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out.

 

[Toto]

Gm. Time to get this started. My opinion is objective so here is the Official SV ZU VR Any :hahas: will not be taken lightly

GSS SMELLS

S
Fraxure
Girafarig

A+
Dunsparce
Luxray
Sudowoodo
Sneasel
Swalot
Vigoroth

A
Beartic
Jumpluff
Leafeon
Lumineon
Flareon
Scovillain
Toedscool

A-
Dedenne
Glalie
Gumshoos
Krokorok
Murkrow
Persian
Stantler

B+
Gastly
Gothitelle
Hypno
Oinkologne-F
Pawniard
Pincurchin

B
Fletchinder
Kricketune
Mareanie
Oranguru
Sandygast
Seviper
Tropius
Wigglytuff
Zweilous

B-
Cufant
Dewott
greedent:
Hippopotas
Mankey
meditite
Pikachu
Shroodle
snover

C
Bramblin
Charmeleon
Corvisquire
Delibird
Eelektrik
Eiscue
Flittle
Floragato
Hatenna
Marill
Morgrem
Mudbray
Pachirisu
Pupitar
Rufflet
Greavard
Shelgon
Slaking
Sliggoo
Staravia
Tinkatink
Varoom

 

[plznostep]

DLC 1 Personal VR
(may be a bit strange I threw it together just my putting things in tiers that made sense to me)

Spoiler

Flittle Tier
Flittle

S
Hakamo-o
Stonjourner

A+
Monferno
Lumineon
Grumpig
Frogadier
Eelektrik
Glaceon

A
Greedent
Vullaby
Raboot
Squawkabilly
Banette
Vespiquen

A-
Clefairy
Persian
Dunsparce
Krokorok
Sliggoo-Hisui
Glimmet
Dewott
Vigoroth
Dedenne

B+
Dusclops
Camerupt
Dragonair
Pawniard
Calyrex
Girafarig
Pupitar
Dartrix

B
Fraxure
Murkrow
Wugtrio
Prinplup
Drakloak
Grimer-Alola
Pincurchin
Scovillain
Stantler
Mudbray

B-
Wigglytuff
Gothitelle
Spidops
Flareon
Bronzor
Oranguru
Pikachu
Sudowoodo
Mareanie
Hippopotas
Glalie
Quilladin
Luxray

C+
Tropius
Hypno
Eiscue
Graveler
Lampent
Gastly
Toedscool
Pachirisu
Seviper
Morgrem

C
Shroodle
Charmeleon
Slaking
Yanma
Delibird

 

[Monai]

this tier is certainly a crapshoot this early on but for funzies

dogshit tier

S




A+







A








A-
(emotional strength)







picks stolen from toto that ive never seen in a real game




B+


oinkierosoilionge




B






B-







C+
:the other fuckers idc:

 

[Yuelia]

S:
Electrode
Grumpig

S-:
Dunsparce
Sudowoodo

A+:
Gothitelle
Leafeon
Luxray
Stonjourner
Swalot
Toedscool

A:
Banette
Jumpluff
Oranguru
Pincurchin
Scovillain
Stantler

A-:
Dedenne
Eiscue
Flareon
Gastly
Krokorok
Lumineon
Mareanie
Murkrow
Pawniard
Persian
Sneasel
Wugtrio

B+:
Delibird
Dewott
Fletchinder
Floette
Hypno
Kricketune
Oinkologne-F
Quilladin
Raboot
Sandygast
Seviper
Tropius
Wigglytuff
Zorua-Hisui
Zweilous

B:
Bramblin
Corvisquire
Cufant
Fuecoco
Greavard
Gumshoos
Hippopotas
Meditite
Morgrem
Mudbray
Oinkologne-M
Pikachu
Pupitar
Quilava
Shelgon
Shroodle
Slaking
Sliggoo
Varoom

B-:
Drizzile
Eelektrik
Flittle
Glalie
Greedent
Magnemite
Mankey
Rufflet
Tinkatink

C:
Arctibax
Bronzor
Buizel
Charmeleon
Floragato
Hatenna
Marill
Pachirisu
Pineco
Riolu
Sinistea
Snover
Staravia
Sunflora
Wooper
Wooper-Paldea

D/Unranked:
Luvdisc
All NFE/LC mons not listed above.

Update changelogs (Most recent update: May 12)

First update changelog, April 11 following Fraxure and Girafarig bans

Fraxure and Girafarig removed (formerly S and S- respectively)

Rises:
Luxray moved UP to S from S-
Dunsparce, Scovillain, and Vigoroth moved UP to S- from A+
Sudowoodo and Toedscool moved UP to A+ from A
Beartic moved UP to A+ from A-
Dedenne and Jumpluff moved UP to A from A-
Dewott and Oinkologne-F moved UP to B+ from B
Oranguru moved UP to B+ from B-
Kricketune, Mudbray, and Oinkologne-M moved UP to B from B-
Eelektrik and Shelgon moved UP to B- from C

Drops:
Zweilous moved DOWN to A- from A
Corvisquire, Floragato, Gumshoos, and Pincurchin moved DOWN to B from B+
Pachirisu and Rowlet moved DOWN to C from B-

Second update changelog, April 19 following Beartic and Vigoroth bans

Vigoroth and Beartic removed (formerly S- and A+ respectively)
Quilava added to rankings (currently B-rank)

Rises:
Dunsparce moved UP to S from S-
Gothitelle moved UP to A- from B
Floette moved UP to B+ from B
Slaking moved UP to B from B-
Bramblin moved UP to B from C

Drops:
Luxray moved DOWN to S- from S
Snover moved DOWN to C from B

Third update changelog, April 23

Rises:
Stantler moved UP to A from A-
Gastly and Mareanie moved UP to A- from B+
Bramblin and Seviper moved UP to B+ from B
Shelgon moved UP to B from B-
Wooper moved UP to C from D/Unranked

Drops:
Flareon moved DOWN to A- from A
Wigglytuff and Zweilous moved DOWN to B+ from A-
Floragato and Magnemite moved DOWN to B- from B
Slowpoke moved DOWN to C from B-
Gimmighoul and Maschiff moved DOWN to D/Unranked from C

Fourth update changelog, May 3 following tier shift

Grumpig added to S
Banette, Electrode, and Stonjourner added to A
Wugtrio added to A-
Raboot and Zorua-Hisui added to B+
Drizzile added to B-

Rises:
Sudowoodo moved UP to S- from A+
Gothitelle moved UP to A from A-
Kricketune and Pincurchin moved UP to B+ from B
Wooper-Paldea moved UP to C from D

Drops:
Dunsparce moved DOWN to S- from S
Luxray and Scovillain moved DOWN to A+ from S-
Dedenne, Persian, and Sneasel moved DOWN to A- from A
Bramblin, Rufflet, and Shroodle moved DOWN to B from B+
Bronzor, Floragato, Magnemite, and Sinistea moved DOWN to C from B-
Slowpoke and Tarountula moved DOWN to D from C

Fifth update changelog, May 12

Quilladin added to B+

Rises:
Electrode moved UP to S from A
Gothitelle and Stonjourner moved UP to A+ from A
Oranguru and Pincurchin moved UP to A from B+
Krokorok moved UP to A- from B+
Delibird and Hypno moved UP to B+ from B
Pupitar moved UP to B from B-
Magnemite moved UP to B- from C
Staravia moved UP to C from D

Drops:
Scovillain moved DOWN to A from A+
Meditite moved DOWN to B from B+
Mankey and Rufflet moved DOWN to B- from B
Buizel, Charmeleon, and Marill moved DOWN to C from B-
Quaxly and Rowlet moved DOWN to D from C

 

[5Dots]

Slaking is not a decent Pokemon

S
Dunsparce
Sudowoodo
A+
Flareon
Jumpluff
Leafeon
Luxray
Swalot

A
Lumineon
Pawniard
Scovillain
Stantler
Toedscool

A-
Dedenne
Glalie
Hippopotas
Krokorok
Mareanie
Sandygast
Sneasel

B+
Gastly
Gothitelle
Hypno
Murkrow
Persian
Pikachu
Pincurchin

B
Fletchinder
Gumshoos
meditite
Oranguru
Tropius
Wigglytuff
Zweilous

B-
Cufant
Dewott
greedent:
Kricketune
Rufflet
Oinkologne
Pupitar
Seviper
Shroodle
Slaking
Varoom

C
Bramblin
Charmeleon
Corvisquire
Delibird
Eelektrik
Eiscue
Flittle
Floragato
Mankey
Morgrem
Shelgon
Tinkatink

EDIT: Updated after the Beartic, Fraxure, Girafarig, and Vigoroth bans

 

[TTK]

I'm Spittin

S
Fraxure
Girafarig

A+
Dunsparce
Luxray
Swalot
Toedscool
Vigoroth

A
Gothitelle
Jumpluff
Leafeon
Persian
Scovillain
Sneasel

A-
Dedenne
Flareon
Gastly
Gumshoos
Hypno
Pawniard
Pincurchin

B+
Beartic
Eelektrik
Glalie
Kricketune
Lumineon
Murkrow
Oinkologne-F
Oranguru
Rufflet
Sandygast
Slaking
Stantler
Zweilous

B
Corvisquire
Dewott
Eiscue
Fletchinder
Hippopotas
Krokorok
Mareanie
Meditite
Seviper
Shroodle
Sliggoo
Tropius

B-
Buizel
Cufant
Floragato
Greedent
Mudbray
Pikachu
Varoom
Wigglytuff

C
Bramblin
Bronzor
Delibird
Morgrem
Pupitar
Snover

D
Pachirisu
Staravia
Sunflora

E
Everybody else.

 

[Perla]

Here We Go

S
Girafarig
Luxray
Scovillain
Vigoroth

A+
Dunsparce
Fraxure
Leafeon
Sudowoodo
Swalot

A
Dedenne
Gothitelle
Persian
Pincurchin
Sneasel
Toedscool

A-
Beartic
Dewott .
Flareon
Fletchinder
Glalie
Hypno
Oranguru
Jumpluff
Murkrow
Shroodle
Oinkologne-F
Pawniard
Pikachu
Seviper
Wigglytuff
Zweilous

B+
Cufant
Corvisquire
Eelektrik
Eiscue
Gastly
Kricketune
Greedent
Gumshoos
Krokorok
Lumineon
Mudbray
Sandygast
Oinkologne
Slaking
Sliggoo
Tropius

B
Delibird
Floette
Floragato
Mareanie
Hippopotas
Meditite
Morgrem
Pachirisu
Snover
Stantler


B-
Charmeleon
Flittle
Foongus
Rufflet
Varoom

C+
Arctibax
Pupitar
Riolu

C
Bronzor
Greavard
Sinistea
Slowpoke

C-
G-Meowth
Drifloon
Hatenna
Mankey
Marill
Maschiff
Shelgon
Sunflora

F
Bramblin
Steenee
Pineco
Jigglypuff
Kirlia
Tinkatink:
Luvdisc
Pawmo
Staravia
Surskit
Tandemaus

 

[AstilCodex]

Time for content

Ban Tera

S-
Girafarig
Fraxure

A+
Luxray
Vigoroth
Swalot
Scovillain

A
Dedenne
Lumineon
Sudowoodo
Jumpluff
Dunsparce

A-
Sneasel
Toedscool
Flareon
Leafeon
Pawniard
Beartic
Zweilous

B+
Persian
Gastly
Krokorok
Gothitelle
Oranguru
Glalie
Kricketune

B
Wigglytuff
Fletchinder
Eiscue
Pikachu
Slaking
Sandygast
Murkrow
Tropius
Seviper
Hippopotas
Stantler
Mareanie
Pincurchin

B-
Charmeleon
Bramblin
Pupitar
Snover
Dewott
Shroodle
Corvisquire
Delibird
Gumshoos
Hypno
Oinkologne-F
Floragato

C+
Greavard
Varoom
Sliggoo
Cufant
Oinkologne
Morgrem
Bronzor
Greedent
Tinkatink
Meditite
Buizel
Mudbray

C
Mankey
Hatenna
Marill
Flittle
Eelektrik
Pachirisu


C-
Sinistea
Shelgon
Rufflet

D
Sunflora
leave a luv<3

 

[sleid]

My subjective, objective VR (edited after Frax/Giraf/Bear/Vigo bans)

S
Jumpluff
Sudowoodo

A+
Scovillain
Swalot
Toedscool

A
Dunsparce
Gothitelle
Leafeon
Luxray

A-
Dedenne
Leafeon
Lumineon
Persian
Sneasel

B+
Eiscue
Flareon
Fletchinder
Glalie
Krokorok
Pawniard
Pincurchin
Sandygast
Tropius

B
Hippopotas
Gastly
Gumshoos
Krokorok
Mareanie
Pupitar
Slaking
Stantler
Wigglytuff

B-
Kricketune
Hypno
Murkrow
Oinkologne
Seviper
Shroodle
Zweilous

C+
Dewott
Greedent
Morgrem
Oinkologne-F
Oranguru
Sliggoo
Varoom

C
Cufant
Eelektrik
Delibird
Floette
Floragato
Mankey
Meditite
Mudbray
Pikachu

C-
Buizel
Bronzor
Hatenna
Pachirisu
Pawmo
Sinistea
Tinkatink
Not mentioned = UNR
19 reactions and I'll make a more in depth post as to why I chose these rankings

 

[TomatoZause]

zause vr

S
Dunsparce
Fraxure
Swalot

S-
Girafarig
Luxray

A+
Jumpluff
Sudowoodo
Toedscool


A
Flareon
Glalie

A-
Hypno
Mareanie
Murkrow
Sneasel

B+
Dewott
Eelektrik
Gastly
Krokorok
Leafeon
Lumineon
Sandygast
Scovillain
Seviper
Stantler
Zweilous

B
Charmeleon
Corvisquire
Dedenne
Fletchinder
Gumshoos
Gothitelle
Hippopotas
Pawniard
Pincurchin
Shroodle
Wigglytuff

B-
Beartic
Delibird
Eiscue
Floette
Floragato
Kricketune
Oinkologne
Pachirisu
Persian
Pikachu
Pupitar
Slaking
Sliggoo
Tropius

C+
Bramblin
Cufant
Marill
Mankey
Oranguru
Rufflet
Staravia
Tinkatink
Varoom

C
Arctibax
Flittle
Greavard
Greedent
Meditite
Oinkologne
Snover

C-
Drifloon
Foongus
Hatenna
Mudbray
Riolu
Sinistea

 

[Sawkasm]

So these are my impressions after topping the tier, lower ranks are pretty unclear and murky so there will be a lot of changes down the line, i think the top half is rather accurate tho

 

[PigWarrior19]

a bit sloppy might have missed a few


S
Fraxure (Banned Bozo)

S-
Girafarig (Banned Bozo)
Dunsparce

A+
Sudowoodo
Swalot
Vigoroth (Banned Bozo)
Jumpluff
Wigglytuff

A
Lumineon
Slaking (He's the goat trust me)
Luxray
Flareon
Toedscool
Pawniard
Beartic (Banned Bozo)
Scovillain

A-
Shroodle
Sneasel
Gastly
Pincurchin
Leafeon

B+
Rufflet
Mudbray
Sandygast
Eiscue
Zweilous
Krokorok
Mareanie
Murkrow
Stantler

B
Shelgon
Staravia
Psyduck
Marill
Oranguru
Gothitelle
Fletchinder
meditite
Quaxly

B-
Dewott
greedent:
Hippopotas
Kricketune
Oinkologne
Persian
Seviper
snover
Varoom
Delibird
Cufant
Dedenne
Bramblin

C+
Floragato
Gumshoos (Use slaking: ))
Charmeleon

C
Corvisquire
Eelektrik
Tropius
Tinkatink

C-
Flittle
Wooper
Steenee

 

[Toxin Boost]

Updated for may tier shifts

Personal VR 5/11/2023

Explanations

S

The only mon in this tier I think is actually broken please ban
As for why 80 speed is solid and having good bulk high special attack nasty plot and amazing coverage make this thing way too hard to switch into and even revenge kill

Very bulky with instant recovery no notable weaknesses and great setup and/or support options

It soaks hits from basically anything that isn't a psychic type spreads toxic sets tspikes and can sweep unprepared teams with acid armor body press

A near unstoppable breaker with sweep potential after a trailblaze, however it does rely on tera normal or else it would be higher

A+

Solid bulk and great speed along with encore and U-turn but it lacks a reliable recovery

Better than stonjourner in my opinion because of the better sped and movepool boasting headsmash woodhammer and sucker punch

Plays both sides of the hazard game with good bulk and even knock off

A huge threat with competitive and calm mind nasty plot or trick room but does compete with grumpig

A

Big threat with swords dance or as a late game cleaner has coverage issues though

Very strong with choice band and choice scarf sets are viable too

The best status absorber in the tier and is nearly unkillable if spikes are not present but

An alternative to sudowoodo with higher speed and physical stats but no head smash hurts and that sped is pathetic

Very fast and strong but has poor bulk relies on tera and can be hard walled by pincurchin or dunsparce, however the speed and strength make it worthy of A tier in my opinion

The best answer to electrode and a decent spikes setter in its own right especially since it has recover and doesn't have to hold an eviolite so it can ignore opposing spikes with boots

The only viable defogger and a solid offensive threat but has to run boots and has poor stats

Good defensive mon with regenerator and recover but has no offensive presence

Kinda the same story as above but it doesn't get toxic and is vulnerable to poison

A-

A very scary late game sweeper but requires a lot of team support

Scary offensive mon with protean and is the only good user of a fighting attack, but is let down by poor stats and a weakness to rocks

Probably the pokemon I overrated the most but it's still good at blanking stuff it just has no bulk whatsoever

Another mon I overrated but still a solid pick with intimidate and good stats

Not as great as others make it out to be since it gets walled by dunsparce and spdef pincurchin but still threatening if those two are removed or as a subseeder

Decent support mon or swords dancer just don't use sleep powder

Fast and strong with low bulk pretty simple and somewhat effective although being walled so easily really hurts

Great typing and bulk along with swords dance but sucker punch is highly abuseable and that speed is awful

B+

Another guts abuser but luxray is usually the better choice and fitting both is kinda hard

Can setup and be threatening but special moves spear right through it so I've never had a problem taking it out but I have seen it put in work

it has an amazing utility movepool including wish but has very poor stats

Decent swords dancer or choice bander but it doesn't have a reliable dark stab or high enough attack to compensate

fast and strong with ok coverage options but is hard walled too easily and has no bulk to speak of

solid lead with intimidate and stealth rocks but has low stats and a mediocre movepool

A solid screen setter but the tier doesn't have the crazy power levels to take advantage of it

A very bulky normal type but the lack of recovery hurts and it doesn't hit hard enough or fast enough to compensate

Ok swords dancer with solid bulk knock off and aqua jet but the overall low stats make it a bit outclassed

B+

Mediocre subseeder or dragon dancer

Kinda annoying with acid spray but lacks reliable recovery and is weak to hazards and status

Fast and strong but has no bulk and can struggle vs bulky mons like dunsparce

Nearly ok dragon dancer

Sets up sun which is viable but not amazing

Discount raboot

hard hitting but slow and kinda frail

mediocre offensive electric

Prankster haze and twave are nice but being this frail really hurts

decent scarfer but is walled way too easily

B-

decent defensive mon but is way too passive

same as slowpoke pretty much but has much worse stats and a good matchup vs electrode

Solid lead spiker is ok in the midgame

Amazing lead sucks elsewhere

just too slow and frail but it does hit hard

sandygast alterative

Defensive-ish version of gastly but not really that good

hustle is a double-edged sword that makes this mon usually not worth picking

yep slaking is bad but it does hit hard

Honestly stuff below this point isn't worth using at all so I won't bother talking about it


I couldn't decide where to rank them since they're just worse gothitelle or grumpig

Personal VR 4/19/2023

Explanations

S

Extremely versatile and annoying to switch into can also threaten sweeps and is potentially next on the ban list

A+

Can potentially blank many mons and is a very hard to switch into because of sludge bomb poisons

Very fast and has encore to shut down setup attempts can also deal with common defensive mons and can take a strong hit in a pinch

Basically just another girafarig or vigoroth but not nearly as good still great though especially with intimidate

An extremely powerful breaker and potential sweeper but relies a lot on tera

A

Can do well in either defensive or offensive roles and often both in a single match it has a great ability but common weaknesses and low speed

A very good status absorber and potential sweeper with dragon dance but has bad weaknesses low speed and can be haxed by its own ability

amazing tank sets t spikes spreads toxic and can sweep with acid armor but it doesn't have reliable recovery and is weak to common moves

Fast and strong with swords dance but can struggle to deal damage without tera and has low spdef

Has priority defog or brave bird and other support options severely struggles against physical walls especially the rock types

Has rocks and spikes along with great offensive options but has low spdef common weaknesses and poor speed

Very offensively threatening and has sub seed sets but has low bulk a rocks weakness and mediocre speed without a way to boost it

A-

Solid special attacker has low bulk and struggles against grounds

Fast and strong but lacks reliable dark stab and has pitiful bulk along with a rocks weakness

Solid spinner and spikes with great support moves but is very passive

Really strong and fast but lacks coverage or bulk

Has spikes and t spikes along with recover lacks notable traits outside of that

Decent late game attacker but has serious coverage issues

Mediocre swords dance user that has sleep powder

B+

Web setter

Decent dragon dancer

Solid defensive pokemon that is extremely passive

Solid lead spiker has some use outside that

Amazing lead spiker useless outside that

Mediocre attacker usually runs scarf

Annoying support mon but has low stats and is generally outclassed by dunsparce

Gothitelle alterative

Luxray alterative

B

Mediocre bulky normal type without recovery

Decent lead rocker mediocre outside that

Another worse gothitelle alterative

Strong but very frail slow and predictable

Not fast or strong enough to be reliable

Mediocre sword dancer that's walled by too much

Belly drummer that folds to special hit and lacks power to crush resists even at plus 6

Very bulk but extremely passive

Solid screen setting but the tier lacks the power to use these screens especially after the new vigoroth ban

B-

Annoying sub seeder but loses hard to swalot and is very slow

Mediocre defensive mon that is very passive

Not that strong or bulky and lacks recovery

Very strong but is slow and frail

Has knock off and swords dance but sucks beyond that

Sandygast alternative

Very strong swords dancer but is weak to rocks slow as frick and has common weaknesses

C+

Strong but very frail and not that fast

Worse fletchinder

bad gastly

Completely outclassed normal type

Weather setter but weather is bad

Sun abuser but is slow and frail

Rain abuser but rain is even worse than sun and buizel is frail

C

Passive pivot

too weak slow and frail

Never able to actually setup

Truant is bad

Way too passive

Can setup rocks and do nothing else

C-

Bad at walling horrible at everything else

Has intimidate but just use fletchinder

Please don't hurt yourself just use fletchinder

Just bad

Anything unranked I haven't seen or heard talked about

 

[Tuthur]

S
Swalot
Sudowoodo

A+
Dunsparce
Gothitelle
Luxray
Scovillain
Toedscool

A
Fletchinder
Jumpluff
Leafeon
Mareanie
Pawniard
Sandygast

A-
Dedenne
Eiscue
Gastly
Flareon
Persian
Sneasel
Zweilous

B+
Dewott
Glalie
Hippopotas
Lumineon
Murkrow
Pupitar
Stantler

B
Bramblin
Delibird
Hypno
Meditite
Mudbray
Oranguru
Shroodle
Slaking

B-
Buizel
Cufant
Eelektrik
Floette
Floragato
Oinkologne-F
Pikachu
Pincurchin
Morgrem
Seviper
Varoom
Wigglytuff

C
Corvisquire
Flittle
Greavard
Gumshoos
Kricketune
Krokorok
Marill
Pachirisu
Rufflet
Shelgon
Sliggoo
Tinkatink
Tropius

 

[Fish Gaming]

Updated for May Shifts

S
Luxray
Sudowoodo
Grumpig

A+
Dunsparce
Krokorok
Swalot
Electrode



A
Sneasel
Jumpluff
Leafeon
Flareon
Lumineon
Toedscool


A-
Fletchinder
Scovillain
Gastly
Gothitelle
Stantler
Stonjourner

B+
Wugtrio
Seviper
Dedenne
Glalie
Tropius
Pawniard
Oinkologne-F
Persian
Hypno
Murkrow
Banette

B
Kricketune
Mareanie
Oranguru
Zweilous
Pincurchin
Gumshoos
Raboot

B-
Delibird
Cufant
Dewott
Greedent
Mankey
Meditite
Sandygast
Wigglytuff

C+
Sliggoo
Eelektrik
Corvisquire
Bramblin
Hippopotas
Snover
Oinkologne

C
Slaking
Shelgon
Greavard
Mudbray
Diglett
Morgrem
Hatenna
Eiscue
Charmeleon

C-
Staravia
Rufflet
Pachirisu
Floragato
Flittle

 

[TWiTT]

Threw together a quick personal VR after laddering/building for new meta. Was originally gonna do high, mid, low but did this instead. Didn't bother ranking within subranks/sort stuff alphabetically. If you don't see your favourite mon I either forgot about it or I think it sucks. Happy ladder tour ya'll.

S:
Grumpig

A+:
Sliggoo-hisui
Stonjourner
Swalot

A:
Dunsparce
Banette
Leafeon
Wugtrio

A-:
Dedenne
Toedscool
Thwackey
Scovillain
Sandygast

B+:
Crocalor
Flareon
Mareanie
Murkrow
Quilladin
Pawniard
Grimer-Alola
Jumpluff

B:
Bramblin
Raboot
Fletchinder
Luxray
Slaking
Stantler
Sudowoodo

B-:
Kricketune
Tropius
Oranguru
Gothitelle
Glalie

C - rest of niche mons

 

[sinnabyss]

Was bored so may as well make a VR
the mons are ranked within their tiers randomly btw
(Updated after bans)

S
None

A+
Stonjourner
Banette
Swalot

A
Sliggoo-H
Toeds cool
Dunsparce

A-
Scovillian
Wugtrio

B+
Luxray
jumpluff
Stantler
Sneasel
Drizzile

B
Monke
Dedenne
Flareon
Mareanie
Quilladin
Murkrow
Alomer
Crocalor

B-
Sandygast
Pawniard
Sudowoodo
Raboot
Fletchinder
Gothitelle
Oranguru
Greavard
Pikachu

C
Glalie
Slaking
Gumshoos
Corvisquire
Tropius

 

[Tuthur]

S
Swalot

A+
Banette
Dunsparce
Oranguru
Stonjourner
Toedscool

A
Dedenne
Gothitelle
Raboot
Sliggoo-Hisui
Thwackey

A-
Bramblin
Drizzile
Fletchinder
Hypno
Luxray
Murkrow
Wugtrio

B+
Crocalor
Flareon
Grimer-Alola
Jumpluff
Pincurchin
Pupitar
Quilladin
Scovillain

B
Glalie
Hippopotas
Mareanie
Pawniard
Sandygast
Stantler
Sudowoodo

B-
Eelektrik
Gastly
Kricketune
Mudbray
Pachirisu
Pikachu
Shelgon
Sneasel
Zweilous

C
Charmeleon
Delibird
Eiscue
Greavard
Greedent
Gumshoos
Kubfu
Morgrem
Persian
Shroodle
Tropius

 

[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d]

High:
Ampharos
Banette
Clefairy
Dedenne
Dewott
Dunsparce
Eelektrik
Frogadier
Glaceon
Greedent
Grumpig
Hakamo-o
Krokorok
Lumineon
Monferno
Persian
Raboot
Hisuian Sliggoo
Squawkabilly
Stonjourner
Vespiquen
Vigoroth
Vullaby

Mid:
Calyrex
Camerupt
Crocalor
Dartrix
Dragonair
Drakloak
Dusclops
Flareon
Fraxure
Girafarig
Glimmet
Alolan Grimer
Mudbray
Murkrow
Pawniard
Pincurchin
Prinplup
Pupitar
Quilladin
Scovillain
Spidops
Stantler
Wugtrio

Low:
Bronzor
Charmeleon
Delibird
Eiscue
Gastly
Glalie
Gothitelle
Graveler
Hippopotas
Hypno
Lampent
Mareanie
Morgrem
Oranguru
Pachirisu
Pikachu
Seviper
Shellder
Shroodle
Slaking
Sudowoodo
Toedscool
Tropius
Wigglytuff
Hisuian Zorua

 

[diegoyuhhi]

since i mostly disagree with the vl that was published today it's time to make a vr of my own :)
not ordered inside of tiers, might update that in the future

S
Stonjourner

A+
Hakamo-o
Lumineon
Monferno
Squawkabilly

A
Banette
Ampharos
Frogadier
Grumpig
Fraxure
Eelektrik
Clefairy

A-
Camerupt
Glaceon
Sliggoo-Hisui
Persian
Girafarig
Greedent
Raboot

B+
Dedenne
Dunsparce
Krokorok
Vullaby
Dewott
Pawniard
Vigoroth

B
Crocalor
Dartix
Glalie
Glimmet
Grimer-Alola
Luxray
Mareanie
Spidops

B-
Dragonair
Drakloak
Murkrow
Pupitar
Scovillain
Vespiquen
Quilladin

C+
Dusclops
Oranguru
Wugtrio
Calyrex
Sandshrew
Sandygast

C
Pikachu
Prinplup
Bronzor
Flareon
Gothitelle
Toedscool
Wigglytuff
Sandshrew-Alola

C-
Pincurchin
Eiscue
Hypno
Stantler
Sudowoodo
Carkol
Gastly
Grotle
Graveler

 

[S1nn0hC0nfirm3d]

Rough estimate of the meta right now. There are some outliers like Falinks and Lycanroc-D being very strong but otherwise it's not bad.

High
Ampharos
Cacturne
Camerupt
Chimecho
Clefairy
Dachsbun
Dugtrio
Falinks
Frogadier
Gabite
Golduck
Illumise
Indeedee-F
Kricketune
Lycanroc-Midnight
Misdreavus
Phione
Quaxwell
Rotom-Fan (busted as FUCK!!!)
Sawsbuck
Stonjourner
Swalot
Tinkatuff

Mid:
Banette
Beartic
Dedenne
Ditto
Dusclops
Dusknoir
Eelektrik
Flapple
Fraxure
Furret
Glaceon
Gogoat
Hakamo-o
Leafeon
Lumineon
Magcargo
Monferno
Noctowl
Pincurchin
Raboot
Rabsca
Scovillain
Hisuian Sligoo
Squawkabilly
Vespiquen
Vullaby
Alolan Vulpix
Wyrdeer

Low:
Ariados
Dunsparce
Eiscue
Flareon
Glimmet
Greedent
Krokorok
Luxray
Mudbray
Slaking
Spidops
Vigoroth
Wugtrio

 

[wooper]

reviving this thread with my own personal viability list! lots could be gutted from mid and low frankly, i havent seen a good handful of the mons listed but am going off of how they would fare if they were used and used optimally

Top
Dugtrio
Indeedee-F
Leafeon
Golduck
Tinkatuff

High
Ampharos
Arbok
Gabite
Klawf
Misdreavus
Sawsbuck
Sneasel
Squawkabilly
Swalot

Mid
Banette
Cacturne
Camerupt
Chimecho
Clefairy
Dachsbun
Dedenne
Dusknoir
Flapple
Frogadier
Furret
Glaceon
Gogoat
Kricketune
Krokorok
Ludicolo
Noctowl
Phione
Quaxwell
Scovillain
Sliggoo-Hisui
Thwackey
Trevenant
Victreebel
Volbeat

Low
Beartic
Ditto
Dunsparce
Dusclops
Fraxure
Glalie
Glimmet
Greedent
Grumpig
Hakamo-o
Illumise
Jumpluff
Leavanny
Lumineon
Magcargo
Monferno
Persian
Quilladin
Raboot
Rabsca
Stonjourner
Sudowoodo
Vespiquen
Vullaby
Vulpix
Vulpix-Alola

 

[Corthius]

VR/VL

SSS+++
Thwackey - pablo is back!

S
Swalot

A+
Golduck
Klawf
Leafeon
Tinkatuff

A

Ampharos
Dugtrio
Gabite
Indeedee-F
Sneasel

A-
Misdreavus

Phione
Sawsbuck

Victreebel

Mid can't be asked to do subranks

Arbok
Cacturne
Camerupt
Dachsbun
Dedenne
Ditto
Flapple
Frogadier
Glaceon
Grumpig
Hattrem
Illumise

Leavanny

Ludicolo
Lumineon
Noctowl
Quaxwell
Sliggoo-Hisui
Squawkabilly

Trevenant

Volbeat

Low

Banette
Beartic
Calyrex
Chimecho

Clefairy
Crocalor
Dartrix

Dunsparce
Dusclops

Dusknoir
Eelektrik
Flareon
Fraxure
Furret
Glimmet

Gogoat
Hakamo-o
Jumpluff

Kricketune
Magcargo
Monferno
Mudbray
Persian
Pincurchin
Pupitar
Quilladin
Raboot
Rabsca
Scovillain
Spidops
Stonjourner
Sudowoodo
Vespiquen
Vullaby
Vulpix-Alola
Vulpix

I'm laddering more, can't wait to see you all on there.

 

[BloodAce]

reposting this here, didnt realize this thread existed

Since Open has begun, here is my personal viability list for some of the new players to reference. This a pretty cursory list so lmk if I missed something on the ZU discord.

Top
Combusken
Haunter
Houndoom
Sneasel
Tauros-Paldea-Combat
Tinkatuff
Whiscash

High
Dugtrio-Alola
Electabuzz
Golduck
Golem-Alola
Indeedee-F
Leafeon
Naclstack
Sawsbuck
Servine
Swalot


Mid
Ampharos
Beartic
Cacturne
Camerupt
Carbink
Chimecho
Dachsbun
Dedenne
Ditto
Dugtrio
Duosion
Flapple
Flareon
Frogadier
Gabite
Golem
Grumpig
Honchkrow
Klawf
Leavanny
Ludicolo
Misdreavus
Noctowl
Persian
Quaxwell
Sableye
Sliggoo-Hisui
Squawkabilly
Thwackey
Trevenant
Victreebel
Volbeat

Low
Arbok
Banette
Clefairy
Crocalor
Dartrix
Dunsparce
Dusclops
Dusknoir
Eelektrik
Fraxure
Furret
Glimmet
Gogoat
Hakamo-o
Hattrem
Illumise
Jumpluff
Krokorok
Lumineon
Magcargo
Monferno
Phione
Pupitar
Quilladin
Raboot
Rabsca
Scovillain
Stonjourner
Vespiquen
Vullaby
Vulpix-Alola