Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

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luckie said:
With the revelation of transfer moves being mostly gone, what're people's opinions on Volcanion? Now that it's confirmed to be one of the only mons in the tier (if not the only one, not sure whether it's the only one yet, someone fact check that) with Scald and a super powered one at that, are your views on it any higher (surely not lower right...?) or mostly the same?
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Volcanion was going to be good with or without Scald widespread. It's right there with WWake as being a mon who both works for and against the two viable weathers in OU but unlike Wake it doesn't need weather to be used to good/great effect. Fire/Water is a great stab combo in this meta and it got the coverage to go with it plus boots make so It doesn't need to worry about hazards so you can literally spam Scald/SEruption with almost impunity.
 
TheMantyke said:
Bummed about no transfer moves? Well, we actually do have sorta kinda transfer moves... for like three Pokemon? It turns out that this whole system of relearning old moves includes egg moves. This means that some Pokemon who got Head Smash Nosepassed out of some of their egg moves get them back again. There were some Pokemon we knew would get this treatment upon Home's release (Rabsca gets Cosmic Power now since it can Mirror Herb it from Arceus, most notably), but there were some Pokemon who still wouldn't have had valid parents even with the Home imports. These Pokemon can have their moves now.

Most notably, Chansey got Heal Bell Back!

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There are ultimately only three Pokemon this affects. Chansey gets Heal Bell and Psyduck + Spoink get Simple Beam. Still, pretty relevant move on Chansey. Have fun stalling and regurgitating "5 more minutes, mom".
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Does this effect Pokemon who had their all egg moves wiped out from oversight.
Alolan Grimer/Muk & Cacnea come to mind immediately.
 
With the revelation of transfer moves being mostly gone, what're people's opinions on Volcanion? Now that it's confirmed to be one of the only mons in the tier (if not the only one, not sure whether it's the only one yet, someone fact check that) with Scald and a super powered one at that, are your views on it any higher (surely not lower right...?) or mostly the same?
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Volcanion being the only mon with access to a stronger version of Scald in SEruption is nice, but even if everything suddenly got Scald I don't think that it would affect Volcanion's viability too much since it was great in gen 8 and way more mons had access to scald there compared to gen 9.
 
TheMantyke said:
Bummed about no transfer moves? Well, we actually do have sorta kinda transfer moves... for like three Pokemon? It turns out that this whole system of relearning old moves includes egg moves. This means that some Pokemon who got Head Smash Nosepassed out of some of their egg moves get them back again. There were some Pokemon we knew would get this treatment upon Home's release (Rabsca gets Cosmic Power now since it can Mirror Herb it from Arceus, most notably), but there were some Pokemon who still wouldn't have had valid parents even with the Home imports. These Pokemon can have their moves now.

Most notably, Chansey got Heal Bell Back!

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There are ultimately only three Pokemon this affects. Chansey gets Heal Bell and Psyduck + Spoink get Simple Beam. Still, pretty relevant move on Chansey. Have fun stalling and regurgitating "5 more minutes, mom".
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Eternatus also keeps cosmic power, but that's ubers so it doesn't matter I guess. Ubers has crit me not eternatus to deal with again I guess minus meteor beam. (Which the newly added origin palkia absolutely loves to mash spacial rend on to crit through though.)
 
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