I agree that people takes shit too far, but this is a weird take to have on a discussion board. If there's an opinion voiced that Ifeel llike disagreeing, I will share it with the board the same way the holder of said opinion shared theirs.
Wrong quote lol i wouldn’t say that since I’m the most pro tera person ever
What they mean is that it literally was not them who said that.
Yeah I was thinking that. Zamazenta kinda forces similar dynamics to gambit since it can completely destroys teams, only its win condition is that special attackers are out of the way. Dragapult is required to be preserved arguably since its fast Wisp is one of the best ways to keep it in check. Trick Gholdengo is pretty useful vs it too.
Thank goodness, I am so sorry, quoting on the phone is tough, I was wondering why clicking the name I posted bought me to that!
The issue with Zama is the speed tier, a mon that fat shouldn't be that fast. That stat spread allows a lot of stuff, while being able to hold an item makes it more versatile. Crowned may be banned because of the body press set, but if Hero doesn't get banned I'm fearing of the potential of it when people explore other options with it, IMO it has the potential to be as busted as ORAS Mega-Sableye.
That's an entire archetype compared to one Mon not really a fair comparison.
Yeah, I am somewhat worried about this too. I don't think Zamazenta is too broken right now, or even a better option than Pokemon like Tusks in most cases, but that stat spread is begging to be cracked open with sets that can completely destroy the tier, the same way it was for Kyurem.
Yeah, even if its movepool isn't that great that stats spread is something that needs respect especially with the itemslot avaliable potentially making it less one dimentional compared to crowned. But yeah, the speed is the biggest issue, everyone just says "just run more special mons" but this thing outspeeds everything not named pult so it potentially can ko those mons too, with only vaccum wave as the only priority move on that side.
^ Everyone complaining about Tera should adhere to this logic as well. If you don't like Tera, just go play another format!
Huh, why wouldn't Iron Head work to cover Tera Fairy Mons? Is it 4MSS? Crunch, Iron Head, CC, Rest. Its not going to be 3hko by a phys attacker, and certainly not 2hko by a special if you time the rest properly.
Tera Blast is, at most, one quarter of the actual issue with Tera. Banning it would not address the other problems, like forcing guessing games that come down completely to chance and disproportionate rewards for each side for guessing right or wrong. "Giving Dragapult Shadow Claw" is a complete non-issue and the best Tera abusers are the ones who use it defensively. The biggest benefit you can get from Tera is suddenly resisting or being immune to the attacks of what were formerly your checks. And this won't affect other big things like getting double STAB, getting STAB on a secondary attack typing you already have moves for, potential status immunity, that sort of thing.
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After the awfulness of Dynamax and the blandness of Z-Moves I've been greatly enjoying the depth that Tera provides as a generational gimmick. While I still get blindsided by my opponents using it since I haven't been playing the tier super consistently, it allows for a great deal of creativity in the builder and flexibility in actual battles without being an auto-win button (usually).
I'm not going to say Tera doesn't have issues that should be left completely unaddressed, but I really hate the argument that there's luck involved with its use. (Fuck Gen 6 Aegislash/King's Shield discourse for continuing to poison this well btw.) Your opponent is not a wild Pokémon AI that is randomly selecting their moves every turn. They don't flip a coin to determine whether or not to Tera. They made a decision in the builder and continue to make decisions during a match. Just because you cannot control your opponent or read their mind and lack some information does not mean you're in a luck-based situation. You are at best complaining about bad matchups or risk management, which are things you just have to deal with in any competitive game.
