I think it just limits the partners that you can choose from, similar to previous games. If it chooses both... I will have no choice but to requiz fifty times.
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Super Mystery Dungeon (Spoilers abound!)
- Thread starter sickweare
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So... new screenshots have been released! Looks like Hoopa will be able to join the team, both in regular form and as Supa Doopa Hoopa Unbound. Also shows the main hub, and many of the legends.
After skipping Gates to Infinity, I will most likely be getting SMD. The dungeons look really nice, and it's good to see that there'll be a variety of mons available to play as. Also, that cave with Raikou, Entei, and Suicune looks really cool (though I'm admittedly biased because they're my favourite trio). It also looks like outer space will play a significant role, continuing on the theme from the Delta Episode. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Japanese is spotty at best, so I'm not able to get much information from the text. (Dialga's dialogue, aka the only one I can read: "Next is... where did [they?] come from...")
There is, however, one thing I will miss from the old games, being the excellent sprite artwork. I suppose it can't be helped, though; they want to take advantage of the 3DS's capabilities.
After skipping Gates to Infinity, I will most likely be getting SMD. The dungeons look really nice, and it's good to see that there'll be a variety of mons available to play as. Also, that cave with Raikou, Entei, and Suicune looks really cool (though I'm admittedly biased because they're my favourite trio). It also looks like outer space will play a significant role, continuing on the theme from the Delta Episode. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Japanese is spotty at best, so I'm not able to get much information from the text. (Dialga's dialogue, aka the only one I can read: "Next is... where did [they?] come from...")
There is, however, one thing I will miss from the old games, being the excellent sprite artwork. I suppose it can't be helped, though; they want to take advantage of the 3DS's capabilities.
With the screenshots we have, we can start compiling the set pairs we're getting based off our starter.
EDIT: One of the screenshots I missed is Pikachu with Chespin. The pairs are probably just randomized with type support taken into consideration, and we might only get Zard Y before the credits roll.
- Pikachu gets Piplup as a starter. Makes sense because Pikachu can't do much to Grounds, doesn't make sense because neither can Mega Evolve.
Sinnoh confirmed. - Snivy gets Charmander.
- Riolu gets Cyndaquil. Pretty sure it isn't the other way around because in Explorers you couldn't have Riolu as a partner, only as a player character. Then again they might have changed it.
- Chimchar gets Mudkip.
EDIT: One of the screenshots I missed is Pikachu with Chespin. The pairs are probably just randomized with type support taken into consideration, and we might only get Zard Y before the credits roll.
I think it's funny that Wailord appears more than one tile big in the trailer. The 47'07" tall behemoth is finally going to have trouble going through tunnels! (Please don't try to tell me that halls in dungeons are 48 feet tall. I could buy that excuse for a few dungeons, but not all of them.)
Although yes, wailord does look ridiculous, I really like how they're making pokemon in their respective accurate sizes. I played pokemon mystery dungeon red rescue team and explorers of time, and one of the main things that annoyed me was how nearly all the pokemon were the same size (larvitar and tyranitar should not be the same size!), but it seems that they have fixed this!
Maybe it'll explain some of the plot holes or mysteries in the other games too. Like what happened to a certain pokemon who's memory you effed up, or (insert plot hole or mystery from GtI). And since your trying to map out the entire PMD world I REALLY hope they include Sky Peak somwhere along the line, that was my favorite mystery dungeon evar.
BUUUUT i guess we wont know until more info is released :/
BUUUUT i guess we wont know until more info is released :/
incredibly cheesy title.
hope it doesnt fall flat like gates to infinity, which in itself was a decent game, but nothing compared to the masterpieces that were pmd red/blue and ESPECIALLY pmd sky. dont rly give a shit about graphics and playable characters, i just want a storyline that dazzles me... unfortunately i have a feeling that wont happen again.
hope it doesnt fall flat like gates to infinity, which in itself was a decent game, but nothing compared to the masterpieces that were pmd red/blue and ESPECIALLY pmd sky. dont rly give a shit about graphics and playable characters, i just want a storyline that dazzles me... unfortunately i have a feeling that wont happen again.
It was revealed during the Treehouse Direct that the quiz was mandatory, but if you're unsatisfied with the results you can just choose your Mon after the fact. You also choose between "Cute" and "Cool" for your partner, so there seems to be a degree of control over what you get (and maybe gender?).
Given the time between Gates release and this one and the overall negative reaction to Gates (and the fact that they have returned some the aspects that were missing in Gates) I have high hopes for this game. And honestly (and I've said this before), I think Gates had one of the most intensely emotional storylines in the entire series. The ending where you were rising through the sky and returning to the human world was literally the only point of any game ever that made me cry.
Gameplay vid:
Lots of new mechanics in this game. One thing to note is the speed stat (@22:11), which might come into play with accuracy (something like Pokemon Conquest).
Lots of new mechanics in this game. One thing to note is the speed stat (@22:11), which might come into play with accuracy (something like Pokemon Conquest).
While I only skimmed the video, I did notice that they picked up a "tiny reviver seed" - this is suggesting different types (or at least sizes) of reviver seeds, which I'm guessing have different effects (or why bother?). My guess is the smaller ones won't heal you as much upon revival/not fill your belly/not refill pp/something as compared to other types of reviver seeds. While this makes me a little sad, from a gameplay perspective it's probably a good choice. Reviver seeds were always a little on the OP side - a full heal, including PP and belly and status and everything? Really good for one inventory slot. Anyway, that's my thoughts on that. What do you guys think?
SMD looks pretty promising from that video. The only thing I don't really like is how it tells you how to do everything in the dungeon; part of what made the originals fun for me was finding out what stuff does on my own.
I assume the Tiny Reviver Seeds will be akin to the difference between Revives and Max Revives, restoring 1/2 vs all your stats in the main games.
One thing I do wonder about is how the "end post game" difficulty is going to pan out, because while there were some OP items like the Reviver seeds or Huge Apples, they were almost necessary considering how hard some of the dungeons got (fucking Purity Forest pretty much came down to how often you found Reviver Seeds, or if you found something like a Tight Belt.
I'm really hoping this doesn't mean we won't be able to recruit the legends the old-school way; that was one of the most fun parts of PMD R/B and T/D/S.
Prepare yourselves
Hopefully the magic lamp is a rare or rarely used item, it would take away from the game (in my opinion) if legendaries are too easily accessible. I don't think they will make this a problem, but I'm not really a huge fan of this magic lamp so far
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Serebii updated with some new shit. There's a shop where Hawlucha teaches you moves (Move Tutors confirmed?) and lets you change your abilties. No idea if the ability changing lets you swap out one ability for your Hidden Ability or you're only allowed to have one this time around, but regardless being able to choose sounds good.
There's some other things but that was the most important part.
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Serebii updated with some new shit. There's a shop where Hawlucha teaches you moves (Move Tutors confirmed?) and lets you change your abilties. No idea if the ability changing lets you swap out one ability for your Hidden Ability or you're only allowed to have one this time around, but regardless being able to choose sounds good.
There's some other things but that was the most important part.
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I wonder if they nerfed some of the broken abilities and moves, or if Drifblim remains the most OP poke in the game. Hopefully with the speed stat coming into play that won't be the case.
I wonder if they nerfed some of the broken abilities and moves, or if Drifblim remains the most OP poke in the game. Hopefully with the speed stat coming into play that won't be the case.