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Note: This thread is just for discussion of potential changes to STABmons' resources. Discussion of the metagame in general should be posted in the STABmons Metagame Thread.
Index:
Viability Rankings
Role Compendium
Speed Tiers

Other Resources:
Metagame Thread
Sample Teams
STABmons Old Gens Hub
OM Bazaar | Creative and Underrated Sets | OM Matchmaking
 
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STABmons Viability Rankings:
(last updated 09/09/2022)
S Rank:

S Rank



748.png
Toxapex
248.png
Tyranitar

S- Rank

641-t.png
Tornadus-Therian
036.png
Clefable

A Rank:

A+ Rank


598.png
Ferrothorn
537.png
Seismitoad

A Rank

142.png
Aerodactyl
794.png
Buzzwole
823.png
Corviknight
880.png
Dracozolt
530.png
Excadrill
479-w.png
Rotom-Wash
642-t.png
Thundurus-Therian
807.png
Zeraora

A- Rank

797.png
Celesteela
815.png
Cinderace
094.png
Gengar
130.png
Gyarados
485.png
Heatran
646.png
Kyurem
381.png
Latios
750.png
Mudsdale
479-h.png
Rotom-Heat
373.png
Salamence
199-g.png
Slowking-Galar
639.png
Terrakion
892.png
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
461.png
Weavile

B Rank:


B+ Rank

635.png
Hydreigon
647.png
Keldeo
809.png
Melmetal
034.png
Nidoking
862.png
Obstagoon
579.png
Reuniclus
812.png
Rillaboom
199.png
Slowking
700.png
Sylveon
494.png
Victini

B Rank

257.png
Blaziken
242.png
Blissey
091.png
Cloyster
342.png
Crawdaunt
450.png
Hippowdon
784.png
Kommo-o
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
Mew
778.png
Mimikyu
867.png
Runerigus
212.png
Scizor
227.png
Skarmory
080.png
Slowbro
721.png
Volcanion
893.png
Zarude

B- Rank

065.png
Alakazam
660.png
Diggersby
452.png
Drapion
423-e.png
Gastrodon
861.png
Grimmsnarl
701.png
Hawlucha
473.png
Mamoswine
Galarian Form
Moltres-Galar
031.png
Nidoqueen
464.png
Rhyperior
208.png
Steelix
637.png
Volcarona
145.png
Zapdos

C Rank

C+ Rank

752.png
Araquanid
609.png
Chandelure
555.png
Darmanitan
132.png
Ditto
385.png
Jirachi
226.png
Mantine
105-a.png
Marowak-Alola
793.png
Nihilego
855.png
Polteageist
788.png
Tapu Fini
:zygarde-10%: Zygarde-10%

C Rank
881.png
Arctozolt
184.png
Azumarill
847.png
Barraskewda
625.png
Bisharp
113.png
Chansey
488.png
Cresselia
612.png
Haxorus
695.png
Heliolisk
214.png
Heracross
230.png
Kingdra
553.png
Krookodile
470.png
Leafeon
272.png
Ludicolo
146.png
Moltres
038-a.png
Ninetales-Alola
279.png
Pelipper
233.png
Porygon2
894.png
Regieleki
Rotom Sprite
Rotom-Mow
143.png
Snorlax
465.png
Tangrowth
468.png
Togekiss
324.png
Torkoal
134.png
Vaporeon
 
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Role Compendium
1. Utility

Entry Hazards:
Stealth Rock:
248.png
598.png
485.png
537.png
036.png
227.png
530.png
450.png
208.png
034.png
142.png
784.png
639.png
473.png
242.png
031.png
260.png
385.png
105-a.png
324.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
113.png

Spikes:
248.png
598.png
537.png
227.png
423.png
530.png
450.png
208.png
034.png
473.png
660.png
105-a.png
292.png
260.png
031.png
10% Forme
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
214.png

Toxic Spikes:
748.png
199-g.png
034.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
031.png
452.png

Sticky Web:
452.png
752.png
794.png
212.png
637.png
214.png
292.png


Hazard Control:
Rapid Spin:
700.png
530.png
036.png
242.png
862.png
134.png
233.png
660.png
184.png
772.png
894.png
121.png
468.png
113.png

Defog:
823.png
641-t.png
145.png
788.png
479-h.png
479-w.png
227.png
797.png
212.png
630.png
642-t.png
146.png
Galarian Form
380.png
381.png
130.png
279.png
226.png
110-g.png
635.png
373.png
151.png
468.png
637.png

Court Change:
815.png
700.png
242.png
134.png
233.png
772.png
184.png
862.png
113.png


Clerics and Wish:
Heal Bell/Aromatherapy
700.png
036.png
242.png
113.png
479-h.png
479-w.png
134.png
184.png
468.png
598.png
812.png
465.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
772.png
233.png

Healing Wish:
380.png
381.png
494.png
488.png
080.png
385.png

Wish:
700.png
036.png
242.png
113.png
385.png
772.png
233.png
468.png
380.png


Other:
Knock Off (Defensive/Utility):
248.png
598.png
748.png
537.png
465.png
641-t.png
036.png
630.png
788.png
184.png
861.png

Knock Off (Offensive):
461.png
812.png
862.png
807.png
212.png
625.png
342.png
660.png
893.png


2. Offensive Roles

Wallbreakers:
Physical:
248.png
815.png
807.png
892.png
530.png
880.png
461.png
812.png
257.png
639.png
784.png
794.png
130.png
646.png
862.png
494.png
142.png
212.png
034.png
660.png
778.png
105-a.png
809.png
473.png
701.png
555.png
342.png
184.png
625.png
10% Forme
847.png

Special:
642-t.png
641-t.png
485.png
094.png
700.png
647.png
479-h.png
479-w.png
121.png
034.png
036.png
646.png
381.png
637.png
065.png
146-g.png
233.png
635.png
380.png
233.png
003.png
894.png
468.png

Mixed:
641-t.png
642-t.png
807.png
784.png
494.png
646.png
880.png
034.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
894.png


Choice Item Users:
Choice Band:
248.png
461.png
639.png
812.png
794.png
142.png
892.png
494.png
530.png
342.png
625.png
555.png
784.png
373.png
473.png
212.png
847.png
809.png
10% Forme
815.png
184.png

Choice Specs:
094.png
647.png
485.png
646.png
381.png
700.png
642-t.png
233.png
121.png
635.png
894.png

Choice Scarf:
892.png
794.png
788.png
494.png
132.png
647.png
380.png
381.png
385.png
815.png
555.png
530.png
130.png
468.png


Setup Sweepers:
Bulk Up:
794.png
807.png
823.png
893.png
892.png
815.png
260.png

Calm Mind:
700.png
036.png
080-g.png
080.png
579.png
381.png
380.png
788.png
647.png
242.png
121.png
494.png
807.png

Clangorous Soul:
784.png

Coil:
452.png
034.png
080-g.png

Cosmic Power:
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
036.png

Curse:
423-e.png
208.png

Dragon Dance:
880.png
373.png
248.png
130.png
142.png
646.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
784.png
342.png

Iron Defense/Acid Armor:
823.png
227.png
579.png
208.png

Nasty Plot:
642-t.png
094.png
479-h.png
641-t.png
065.png
479-w.png
080-g.png
146-g.png
635.png
468.png

No Retreat:
892.png
784.png
639.png
794.png
257.png
647.png
214.png

Quiver Dance:
637.png
452.png
752.png

Shell Smash:
091.png
689.png
855.png

Swords Dance:
530.png
461.png
212.png
862.png
812.png
660.png
105-a.png
639.png
257.png
184.png
701.png
342.png
625.png
778.png


Priority:
Accelerock:
248.png
639.png
142.png
689.png

Aqua Jet:
184.png
847.png
892.png
342.png

Bullet Punch:
212.png
809.png

Extreme Speed:
894.png
10% Forme

Grassy Glide:
812.png

Ice Shard:
461.png
646.png
091.png
473.png

Mach Punch:
794.png
639.png
784.png

Shadow Sneak:
105-a.png
778.png
292.png

Sucker Punch:
862.png
461.png
815.png
625.png
342.png

Water Shuriken:
080.png
647.png
279.png
091.png


3. Defensive Role
s

Walls:
Physically Defensive:
598.png
823.png
748.png
794.png
797.png
080.png
036.png
537.png
465.png
227.png
479-h.png
145.png
630.png
579.png
788.png
212.png
208.png
146.png
479-w.png
130.png
110-g.png
195.png
784.png
450.png
233.png
772.png
184.png
134.png

Specially Defensive:
248.png
748.png
199.png
537.png
700.png
036.png
485.png
797.png
823.png
260.png
199-g.png
450.png
212.png
242.png
479-h.png
423-e.png
113.png
226.png
184.png
530.png
465.png
208.png
Galarian Form
134.png
579.png

Mixed:
248.png
748.png
598.png
537.png
823.png
797.png
199.png
450.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
630.png
233.png
772.png


Pivots:
Flip Turn:
748.png
537.png
199.png
423-e.png
788.png
647.png
279.png
184.png
847.png
892.png
342.png
260.png
130.png
121.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
134.png

Parting Shot:
248.png
862.png
630.png
461.png
861.png

Teleport:
036.png
199.png
080.png
242.png
113.png
233.png
199-g.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465

U-turn:
823.png
641-t.png
815.png
794.png
494.png
630.png
812.png
279.png
212.png
892.png
893.png
146.png
Galarian Form
385.png
635.png
257.png
145.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
214.png
292.png

Volt Switch:
642-t.png
479-h.png
145.png
807.png
479-w.png
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
894.png

Regenerator:
641-t.png
748.png
080.png
199.png
199-g.png
465.png
080-g.png
579.png

Other:
132.png
485.png
598.png


Trapping:

Anchor Shot:
598.png
823.png
797.png
208.png

Magma Storm:
485.png
146.png

Spirit Shackle:
292.png

Thousand Waves:
530.png
537.png
423-e.png
208.png
260.png
450.png
473.png
464.png

Thunder Cage:
642-t.png
479-h.png
479-w.png
145.png
894.png


4. Weather

Hail:
Snow Warning:
038-a.png

Slush Rush:
881.png


Rain:
Drizzle:
279.png

Swift Swim:
847.png
537.png
230.png
272.png


Sand:
Sand Stream:
248.png
450.png

Sand Rush:
530.png
880.png


Sun:
Drought:
324.png

Chlorophyll:
003.png
470.png

Solar Power:
006.png
695.png
 
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STABmons Speed Tiers
Total SpeedPokemonBase SpeedNatureEVsIVsBoosts (±)
822
894.png
Regieleki
200Positive252311
816
847.png
Barraskewda
136Positive252312
748
894.png
Regieleki
200Neutral252311
747
880.png
Dracozolt
75Neutral252314
742
847.png
Barraskewda
136Neutral252312
670
701.png
Hawlucha
118Neutral252312
662
642-t.png
Thundurus-Therian
101Positive252312
656
373.png
Salamence,
637.png
Volcarona
100Positive252312
612
Galarian Form
Moltres-Galar
90Positive252312
598
373.png
Salamence,
637.png
Volcarona
100Neutral252312
574
130.png
Gyarados
81Positive252312
568
257.png
Blaziken
80Positive252312
558
Galarian Form
Moltres-Galar
90Neutral252312
550
530.png
Excadrill
88Neutral252312
548
894.png
Regieleki
200Positive252310
541
121.png
Starmie
115Positive252311
525
094.png
Gengar,
381.png
Latios
110Positive252311
519
647.png
Keldeo,
639.png
Terrakion
108Positive252311
499
894.png
Regieleki
200Neutral252310
498
880.png
Dracozolt
75Neutral252312
492
373.png
Salamence,
637.png
Volcarona,
494.png
Victini,
385.png
Jirachi
100Positive252311
486
635.png
Hydreigon
98Positive252311
483
892.png
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
97Positive252311
475
646.png
Kyurem,
555.png
Darmanitan
95Positive252311
453
530.png
Excadrill
88Positive252311
452
452.png
Drapion
95Neutral0312
448
373.png
Salamence,
637.png
Volcarona,
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
Mew
100Neutral252311
447
479-h.png
Rotom-Heat,
479-w.png
Rotom-Wash
86Positive252311
442
784.png
Kommo-o,
788.png
Tapu Fini,
214.png
Heracross
85Positive252311
430
130.png
Gyarados
81Positive252311
426
257.png
Blaziken,
468.png
Togekiss
80Positive252311
423
807.png
Zeraora
143Positive252310
423
794.png
Buzzwole
79Positive252311
394
142.png
Aerodactyl
130Positive252310
383
461.png
Weavile
125Positive252310
375
641-t.png
Tornadus-Therian
121Positive252310
373
880.png
Dracozolt
75Neutral252311
372
065.png
Alakazam
120Positive252310
370
815.png
Cinderace
119Positive252310
361
121.png
Starmie
115Positive252310
350
094.png
Gengar,
381.png
Latios
110Positive252310
348
038-a.png
Ninetales-Alola
109Positive252310
346
647.png
Keldeo,
639.png
Terrakion
108Positive252310
339
452.png
Drapion
95Neutral0311
335
701.png
Hawlucha
118Neutral252310
331
642-t.png
Thundurus-Therian
101Positive252310
328
373.png
Salamence,
637.png
Volcarona,
494.png
Victini,
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
Mew,
385.png
Jirachi
100Positive252310
324
635.png
Hydreigon
98Positive252310
322
892.png
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
97Positive252310
320
778.png
Mimikyu
320Positive252310
317
862.png
Obstagoon,
452.png
Drapion,
646.png
Kyurem,
555.png
Darmanitan
95Positive252310
306
Galarian Form
Moltres-Galar
90Positive252310
302
530.png
Excadrill
88Positive252310
299
373.png
Salamence,
637.png
Volcarona,
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
Mew
100Neutral252310
298
479-h.png
Rotom-Heat,
479-w.png
Rotom-Wash
86Positive252310
295
784.png
Kommo-o,
788.png
Tapu Fini,
034.png
Nidoking,
214.png
Heracross
85Positive252310
291
778.png
Mimikyu
96Neutral252310
289
862.png
Obstagoon,
646.png
Kyurem,
555.png
Darmanitan
95Neutral252310
287
130.png
Gyarados
87Positive252310
284
257.png
Blaziken,
473.png
Mamoswine,
468.png
Togekiss
80Positive252310
282
794.png
Buzzwole
79Positive252310
279
Galarian Form
Moltres-Galar
90Neutral252310
275
530.png
Excadrill
88Neutral252310
269
812.png
Rillaboom,
034.png
Nidoking
85Neutral252310
259
473.png
Mamoswine
80Neutral252310
257
794.png
Buzzwole
79Neutral252310
253
485.png
Heatran
77Neutral252310
249
880.png
Dracozolt
75Neutral252310
236
145.png
Zapdos,
7e416053-13f6-483e-b82d-c149d2b1d87e-png.321465
Mew,
385.png
Jirachi
100Neutral0310
229
212.png
Scizor,
279.png
Pelipper
65Neutral252310
226
452.png
Drapion
95Neutral0310
221
248.png
Tyranitar
61Neutral252310
219
233.png
Porygon2
60Neutral252310
216
146.png
Moltres,
Galarian Form
Moltres-Galar
90Neutral0310
209
342.png
Crawdaunt
55Neutral252310
208
479-h.png
Rotom-Heat,
479-w.png
Rotom-Wash
86Neutral0310
206
784.png
Kommo-o,
788.png
Tapu Fini
85Neutral0310
201
752.png
Araquanid
42Positive252310
199
184.png
Azumarill
50Neutral252310
196
630.png
Mandibuzz,
468.png
Togekiss
80Neutral252310
194
794.png
Buzzwole
79Neutral252310
190
485.png
Heatran
77Neutral0310
189
105-a.png
Marowak-Alola
45Neutral252310
184
537.png
Seismitoad
74Neutral0310
179
292.png
Shedinja
40Neutral0310
176
227.png
Skarmory
70Neutral0310
170
823.png
Corviknight
67Neutral252310
167
809.png
Melmetal
34Neutral252310
166
212.png
Scizor,
279.png
Pelipper,
134.png
Vaporeon
65Neutral0310
165
537.png
Seismitoad
74Negative0310
158
248.png
Tyranitar,
797.png
Celesteela
61Neutral0310
156
036.png
Clefable,
861.png
Grimmsnarl,
233.png
Porygon2
60Neutral0310
146
242.png
Blissey
55Neutral0310
136
465.png
Tangrowth,
184.png
Azumarill
50Neutral0310
130
450.png
Hippowdon
47Neutral0310
126
105-a.png
Marowak-Alola
45Neutral0310
125
823.png
Corviknight
67Negative000
122
465.png
Tangrowth
50Negative0310
116
292.png
Shedinja
40Neutral0310
114
423-e.png
Gastrodon
39Neutral0310
106
748.png
Toxapex
35Neutral0310
104
809.png
Melmetal
34Neutral0310
103
342.png
Crawdaunt
55Negative000
96
080.png
Slowbro,
199.png
Slowking,
199-g.png
Slowking-Galar,
579.png
Reuniclus,
208.png
Steelix
30Neutral0310
85
105-a.png
Marowak-Alola
45Negative000
76
598.png
Ferrothorn
20Neutral0310
67
748.png
Toxapex
35Negative000
58
080.png
Slowbro,
199.png
Slowking
30Negative000
40
598.png
Ferrothorn
20Negative000
 
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Resource Update - 12/28/2021
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Introduction of the STABmons Resources thread!!!!!!! Feel free to comment on any of the resources, especially potential changes to the Viability Rankings!! Love some good discussion!​
 
VR Update - 3/28/2022
Hey guys! We have a new VR update finally! The changelog is as follows:
Rises:
Tornadus-Therian: A to S
Seismitoad: A- to A+
Toxapex: A to A+
Aerodactyl: B+ to A
Kyurem: B to A-
Latios: B to A-
Rotom-Heat: B to A-
Rotom-Wash: B to A-
Salamence: B to A-
Slowking-Galar: B to A-
Celesteela: B to B+
Gyarados: B to B+
Nidoking: B- to B+
Hawlucha: B- to B
Mew: B- to B
Scizor: B- to B
Moltres: C to B-
Runerigus: UR to B-
Araquanid: C to C+
Chandelure: UR to C+
Diggersby: UR to C+
Mandibuzz: C to C+
Mantine: UR to C+
Moltres-Galar: C to C+
Nihilego: C to C+
Polteageist: UR to C+
Arctozolt: UR to C
Barraskewda: UR to C
Bisharp: UR to C
Kingdra: UR to C
Ludicolo: UR to C
Nidoqueen: UR to C
Rhyperior: UR to C

Drops:
Corviknight: A+ to A
Ferrothorn: A+ to A
Exadrill: A to A-
Heatran: A to A-
Slowbro: A- to B+
Slowking: A- to B+
Blaziken: B+ to B
Kommo-o: B+ to B
Volcarona: B+ to B
Zapdos: B+ to B
Grimmsnarl: B+ to B-
Drapion: B to B-
Starmie: B to B-
Tangrowth: B to B-
Blissey: B to C+
Shedinja: C to UR
Vaporeon: C to UR
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Hopefully there's less meta changes and bans between now and the next update so we can get one out sooner x) that's all for now, expect more as OMPL is on the horizon!
 
STABmons Viability Rankings:
(last updated 05/27/2022)
S Rank:

S Rank


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Toxapex
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Tyranitar

A Rank:

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Cinderace
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Clefable
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Ferrothorn
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Seismitoad
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Zeraora

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Aerodactyl
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Buzzwole
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Corviknight
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Dracozolt
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Excadrill
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Rotom-Heat
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Rotom-Wash
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Thundurus-Therian
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Urshifu-Rapid-Strike

A- Rank

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Celesteela
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Gengar
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Gyarados
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Heatran
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Kyurem
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Latios
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Salamence
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Slowking-Galar
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Terrakion
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Weavile

B Rank:


B+ Rank

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Hippowdon
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Keldeo
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Nidoking
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Obstagoon
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Rillaboom
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Skarmory
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Slowking
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Sylveon
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Victini

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Blaziken
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Blissey
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Crawdaunt
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Hawlucha
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Hydreigon
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Kommo-o
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Melmetal
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Mew
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Mudsdale
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Reuniclus
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Scizor
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Slowbro
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Tapu Fini
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Volcanion
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Volcarona
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Zapdos

B- Rank

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Alakazam
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Diggersby
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Drapion
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Gastrodon
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Grimmsnarl
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Mamoswine
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Mimikyu
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Moltres
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Nidoqueen
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Rhyperior
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Runerigus
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Steelix

C Rank

C+ Rank

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Araquanid
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Chandelure
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Ditto
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Jirachi
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Mandibuzz
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Mantine
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Marowak-Alola
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Nihilego
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Polteageist
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Starmie

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Arctozolt
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Azumarill
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Barraskewda
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Bisharp
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Chansey
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Darmanitan
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Heliolisk
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Heracross
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Kingdra
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Krookodile
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Ludicolo
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Ninetales-Alola
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Pelipper
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Porygon2
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Regieleki
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Tangrowth
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Togekiss
VR Update - 5/27/2022
Hey everyone! We have another VR update for you all, the changes are as follows:

Rises:
Toxapex: A+ to S
Ferrothorn: A to A+
Zeraora: A to A+
Clefable: A- to A+
Buzzwole: A- to A
Dracozolt: A- to A
Excadrill: A- to A
Rotom-Heat: A- to A
Rotom-Wash: A- to A
Celesteela: B+ to A-
Gengar: B+ to A-
Gyarados: B+ to A-
Terrakion: B+ to A-
Victini: B to B+
Crawdaunt: B- to B
Hydreigon: B- to B
Melmetal: B- to B
Blissey: C+ to B
Diggersby: C+ to B-
Moltres-Galar: C+ to B-
Nidoqueen: C to B-
Rhyperior: C to B-
Ditto: C to C+
Jirachi: C to C+
Marowak-Alola: C to C+
Mudsdale: UR to B
Volcanion: UR to B
Chansey: UR to C
Heliolisk: UR to C
Krookodile: UR to C

Drops:
Slowbro: B+ to B
Gastrodon: B to B-
Starmie: B- to C+
Tangrowth: B- to C

Addressing the obvious thing of note here, we decided that now that we're in a more stable period where the meta has really started to settle and we've seen good Pokemon cement themselves more in the metagame, it was best to have our ranks reflect this by shifting Pokemon up in ranks more. This hopefully shows more concretely which Pokemon have been having consistent performances in tours and have more defined roles in the metagame.

Notable large rises include Mudsdale's reintroduction to the VR, this time shooting up to B rank. Mudsdale has always been a solid defensive Ground-type, but it's popped back up pretty extensively in the metagame now as a blanket check to physical attackers like Cinderace, Aerodactyl, Zeraora, Dracozolt, Excadrill, and more. Clefable also rose 2 ranks as it has been on the rise as a defensive Pokemon, Magic Guard is a great niche in the metagame and the ability to run Rapid Spin and/or Stealth Rock makes it a great filler for your teams needs. Glare and Calm Mind sets have also had strong showings in tours.

That's all for now, would love to remind everyone that we're taking sample submissions! Thanks!
 
Hey everyone! Now that seasonal is finished, we're gonna have a quick VR update before OMWC. Feel free to post any VR noms you have within the next few days! I had some personal noms i wanted to make too.

:tornadus-therian: & :clefable: -> S-

While it doesnt currently exist, i do believe that the rank of S- perfectly describes the viability that Tornadus and Clefable have in the current meta. Tornadus-T is one of the faster Pokemon in the tier, notably outpacing powerful breakers such as Keldeo, Gengar, and Cinderace. It's also got an incredibly diverse movepool which makes it incredibly splashable, some of the more notable sets include bulky Defog, Offensive Pivot, and Assault Vest. Even nicher sets such as Nasty Plot and Choice Scarf have been seeing usage. Clefable, on the other hand, is just very annoying to deal with. Magic Guard making it immune to Toxic, Sand, and Entry Hazards makes it a pain to wear down in tandem with its recovery and solid bulk. its quite possibly the best hazard control in the tier, with very few Pokemon being able to reliably SpinBlock it, and its able to at the very least force out a majority of the tiers hazard setters. The plethora of support moves it can viably run such as Glare, Aromatherapy, Teleport, and Wish also make it incredibly valuable for any team.

Now, i dont think these two are quite as dominant as Tyranitar and Toxapex, which is why i propose to put them a tier below, as they're both slightly better than the Residents in A+.

:cinderace: -> A

Cinderace doesnt have the greatest spot in the current meta, with the rise of Mudsdale, and the likes of Seismitoad and Toxapex being as ever-present as ever, it really struggles to make notably progress in games which doesnt boil down to "U-Turn into another breaker", which is a role better filled by other pivots. Faster offensive Pokemon to revenge kill it like Tornadus-T, Zeraora, and Aerodactyl are also quite common. Its entirely outclassed by other pivots in the meta and I very rarely see reason to use Cinderace on a team over other fire-types like Victini and Rotom-H, it needs to drop IMO.

:mudsdale: -> A-

After being discovered in OMPL, Mudsdale quickly grew to be a staple in STAB. Its one of the best Ground-types in the tier, having access to good utility moves like Thousand Waves, Toxic, Stealth Rock and Spikes. However, what truly sets it apart from other Ground-types like Hippowdon and Seismitoad is Stamina. Stamina lets Mudsdale wall almost every physical attacker in the tier, notably Tyranitar, Cinderace, Aerodactyl, and Excadrill. Its status as an incredible physical wall and the role compression it provides is fantastic and it warrants this massive raise.

:hippowdon: -> B-

Im gonna keep this short but Hippowdon is solely outclassed either Mudsdale or Tyranitar in everything it tries to do, there's very little reason to run it anymore other than maybe on a dedicated sand team. Put simply there's just better Pokemon out there.

:Urshifu-rapid-strike: -> A-

Probably the biggest loser of the Gambit Ban, the loss of viably being able to run No Retreat + Final Gambit sets on HO to lure out opposing walls its lost a bit of viablilty. Im unsure on how Urshifu is gonna fare in a meta with Toxapex and Seismitoad so prominent, but i do still think that No Retreat 3a and Choice sets are gonna see some usages.

:cloyster: -> B-

Another recently discovered Pokemon, Cloyster is an incredibly threatening sweeper on HO thanks to Freeze-Dry letting it beat Water-types like Toxapex, Seimitoad, and Urshifu-R, while Water Shuriken lets it KO Priority users like Aerodactyl, Tyranitar, or Obstagoon. Its immensely powerful and should be ranked, i may be a bit modest with just B-.
 
I use way too many unranked mons that are better than half the stuff in C and C+ so I'm gonna nom a lot of them and also a few higher up ones, might edit in some more later if I think of some

:cinderace: A+ --> A-
Ace is good vs a lot of teams but p useless vs muds and some offenses, not as good as toad ferro etc.

:zeraora: A+ --> A
Grounds are too good and fitting GK means you don't have Bulk Up, think it's a bit too high

:Urshifu-rapid-strike: A --> B+
Honestly I'd rather use Keldeo on more teams but it still has utility because strong

:zarude: UR --> B
Really surprised this isn't ranked already, CB Knock Off is really strong and Beat Up can just smash through some teams. If you don't have Buzzwole or a steel bird Grav Apple can just sweep since it has CC for Ferro and U-turn to pivot, solid mon imo

:mudsdale: :melmetal: :reuniclus: B --> Up
Muds probably A- and the other to B+, all good mons that are a bit better than what we got rn there

:hawlucha: B --> B- / C+
We banned all the terrain setters

:zygarde-10: UR --> C+
Only user of Thousand Arrows, w Spikes and DDarts it's a strong offensive presence on some teams, really threatening vs sands of like ttar exca zolt torn rotom filler where typical ground immunes are bypassed

:Torkoal: :leafeon: UR --> C
Sun is decent imo, and Leafeon w Multi Attack is a threatening sweeper after an SD since it can drop torn and buzz

:cresselia: UR --> C
Massive mu fish but if you load into no ttar or kill ttar w baits sub cm can just win vs almost anything

:haxorus: UR --> C
It's just a stronger dragon than mence, highest legal attack behind regigoat, and Mold Breaker for random Unaware clef stall or like Rhyperior which drops to CC

:vaporeon: UR --> C
Cleric water immune, not needing wish tect for recovery means you have an extra moveslot w Scald Slack Off Heal Bell so it has decent utility

:regigigas: UR --> C
Listen. It has recovery and SD. Trust me.

:snorlax: UR --> C / C+
It's just Regigigas but slow, doesn't have slow start tho

:krookodile: :mandibuzz: :chansey: --> UR
Unviable
 
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STABmons Viability Rankings:
(last updated 09/09/2022)
S Rank:

S Rank



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Toxapex
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Tyranitar

S- Rank

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Tornadus-Therian
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Clefable

A Rank:

A+ Rank


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Ferrothorn
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Seismitoad

A Rank

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Aerodactyl
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Buzzwole
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Corviknight
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Dracozolt
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Excadrill
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Rotom-Wash
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Thundurus-Therian
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Zeraora

A- Rank

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Celesteela
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Cinderace
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Gengar
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Gyarados
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Heatran
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Kyurem
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Latios
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Mudsdale
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Rotom-Heat
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Salamence
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Slowking-Galar
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Terrakion
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Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
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Weavile

B Rank:


B+ Rank

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Hydreigon
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Keldeo
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Melmetal
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Nidoking
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Obstagoon
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Reuniclus
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Rillaboom
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Slowking
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Sylveon
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Victini

B Rank

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Blaziken
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Blissey
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Cloyster
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Crawdaunt
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Hippowdon
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Kommo-o
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Mew
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Mimikyu
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Runerigus
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Scizor
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Skarmory
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Slowbro
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Volcanion
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Zarude

B- Rank

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Alakazam
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Diggersby
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Drapion
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Gastrodon
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Grimmsnarl
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Hawlucha
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Mamoswine
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Moltres-Galar
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Nidoqueen
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Rhyperior
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Steelix
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Volcarona
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Zapdos

C Rank

C+ Rank

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Araquanid
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Chandelure
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Darmanitan
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Ditto
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Jirachi
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Mantine
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Marowak-Alola
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Nihilego
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Polteageist
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Tapu Fini
:zygarde-10%: Zygarde-10%

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Arctozolt
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Azumarill
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Barraskewda
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Bisharp
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Chansey
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Cresselia
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Haxorus
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Heliolisk
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Heracross
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Kingdra
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Krookodile
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Leafeon
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Ludicolo
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Moltres
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Ninetales-Alola
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Pelipper
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Porygon2
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Regieleki
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Snorlax
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Tangrowth
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Togekiss
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Torkoal
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New VR update is out! Here's the changelog below:
Changelog:
Rises:

Clefable: A+ to S-
Hydreigon: B to B+
Melmetal: B to B+
Mudsdale: B to A-
Reuniclus: B to B+
Mimikyu: B- to B
Runerigus: B- to B
Darmanitan: C to C+
Cloyster: UR to B
Zarude: UR to B
Zygarde-10%: UR to C+
Cresselia: UR to C
Haxorus: UR to C
Leafeon: UR to C
Rotom-Mow: UR to C
Snorlax: UR to C
Torkoal: UR to C
Vaporeon: UR to C

Drops:
Tornadus-T: S to S-
Cinderace: A+ to A-
Zeraora: A+ to A
Rotom-Heat: A to A-
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: A to A-
Hippowdon: B+ to B
Skarmory: B+ to B
Hawlucha: B to B-
Tapu Fini: B to C+
Volcarona: B to B-
Zapdos: B to B-
Moltres: B- to C
Mandibuzz: C+ to UR
Starmie: C+ to UR

Majority of the changes were covered in the above nominations, but I'll go over a few that weren't. Hydreigon rose mostly for its NP sets that are very difficult to switch into right now and outpaces a good portion of bulkier builds while also being a decent Choice Scarf mon. Runerigus rose a rank due to how strong of a physical wall it is, especially when it punishes contact moves from Tornadus-T and Aerodactyl so hard while being the best switchin to Terrakion in the metagame. Most drops reflect an absence of usage or defined niche in the metagame, Skarmory has fallen off a little bit in favor of the more popular Cotton Guard Ferrothorn set while Tapu Fini struggles immensely in the current metagame to make progress with offensive sets or wall anything with defensive ones.
 
Time to become a necromancer and revive this thread with some noms.

Addition

:Hatterene: Hatterene UR -> C Being able to stop Ferro completely is pretty impressive alongside Mudsdale, Seismitoad, and Clefable to some extent, and considering it has Nuzzle, switching can be annoying as well. Moonlight halved by weather is annoying though. But it can also Teleport on things it walls, oh, also trick Room.

:Tangrowth: Tangrowth UR -> C It has a small niche in stall teams.

:Durant: Durant UR -> C It's very strong and can slam teams without Steel, and even Corviknight with Rock after one U-turn... 80% of the time.

:Metagross: Metagross UR -> C+ I tried Demon Metagross and gotta say, it can get out of control very quickly. One advantage it has over Mew is Steel type, so you can't beat it with toxic.

:Umbreon: Umbreon UR -> C I had mixed results with Umbreon. On one hand, its bulk is definitely great, with Psychic immunity and Ghost resist coming in handy. Access to Spin also gives it an important niche over Ttar. However, most offensive mons being dual type make its a letdown at times, tough against Torn-T, Nido and Rotom it is better still.

:Bewear: Bewear UR -> C+/B- This thing is really fat. Effortlessly taking hits from Ttar, Zeraora and might even live 2 Brave Birds from Aero, its biggest weakness remains Sunsteel Strike. It can also run No Retreat to some extent, in addition to Spin and Recover.

:Sigilyph: Sigilyph UR -> C What makes this viable for me is not Magic Guard, but Specs Tinted Lens. Being something that can slap both AV Slowking and Pex is no joke. Obviously can't be higher since it can't 2HKO SpDef Ttar (Can still Trick though)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8stabmons-1593026713-ggay56pgyn2e8wxo96q14wqxgzq2lvipw
:Diancie: Diancie UR -> C This mon was the reason I believed Thunderous Kick wasn't broken back then, nowadays it can still deal with Fire Lash. It's also a rare Pokemon to resist Mence's dual STAB and doesn't fear the random Superpower or U-turn from Torn-T. Most of the time Ttar is preferred still though.

:Stakataka: Stakataka UR -> C: Trick Room

:Drampa: Drampa UR -> C+: All Trick Room should have This, Specs hits so hard, and Cloud Nine makes sure Ttar won't be saved by Sand SpD boost.

:Talonflame: Talonflame UR -> C: Besides Ttar, Dragon Ascent is a pretty fun option for offense I saw in Swiss

:Doublade: Doublade UR -> C: This is very underexplored. SD hits hard with Poltergeist + Iron Tail.

:Jolteon: Jolteon UR -> C: It's like special Zeraora, except thanks to Boomburst and Encore, it can force Thundurus out. Weaker Boomburst compared to Heliolisk, but being faster and bulkier gives it a niche.

:Accelgor: :Ninjask: UR -> C Grouping these two up since they are similar: Fast Web setters.

:Luxray: Luxray UR -> C I swept pannu with this, I will let you judge whether that makes it good.

:Poliwrath: Poliwrath: UR -> C Being a rain sweeper with Belly Drum can be deadly I guess

:Stoutland: Stoutland UR -> C+ Benefits from sand being strong atm, I find this a decent option with SD and Memory Multi Attack to allow Exca/Dracozolt to sweep (Usually Fire Memory for Ferro and Corvi).

Change
:Pelipper: Pelipper C -> C+ I think rain is pretty decent all things considered, making Pelipper better.

:Victini: Victini B+ -> A- Being able to bluff a normal set to freely get Screens and then click Final Gambit is huge, and it can even fit Encore as well. Would recommend trying.

:Volcarona: Volcarona B- -> B A hybrid offensive set with Quiver and Web does me wonders. One QD and you force out all Defoggers/Spinners, can even run Mind Blown if you want a surprise suicide Web lead.

:Arctozolt: Arctozolt C -> C+ It clearly doesn't belong in the same tier as other mons. While slow and relies on Hail being up, once it gets a sub up it can be a pain to get rid of, since it can pack Low Kick for Ferro as well.

:Chansey: Chansey C -> C+ Transform Chansey is pretty obnoxious to take down.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8stabmons-1609393125-iapalt49zk7zslu94mxb6vtvc58961kpw

:Cloyster: Cloyster B -> B+ Might even be A-, this thing is VERY scary

:Porygon2: Porygon2 C -> C+ Specs Boomburst hurts, I mean it. Struggles against Tyranitar but you can add support for it. Like BJ vs Dugza

:Steelix: Steelix B- -> B Might just be me, but I really like having a solid Aero answer, considering it beats Spin Clef with Anchor, as well as Ttar and Zeraora

:Hydreigon: Hydreigon B+ -> B Latios just gives it too much competition imo, Hydreigon can't actually break Toxapex, which is a massive drawback whenever I see it. Mostly relies on Switcheroo to cripple Pex and that's it.

:Thundurus-Therian: Thundurus-Therian A -> A- I don't think meta is kind to it atm sadly, with offensive mons all being faster and it keeps having to predict correctly, otherwise it won't make much, if any, progress

:Reuniclus: Reuniclus B+ -> B Not gonna lie, I almost forgot this exists. Feels like it can be deadweight in too many games and not consistent.

Changes that I'm not sure on:
:Slowbro-Galar: Slowbro-Galar UR -> C Belly Drum Quick Draw Quick Claw can sweep, probably

:Gastrodon: Gastrodon B- -> C+ I have no idea what this has over Seis.

:Barbaracle: Barbaracle UR -> C Like Kingdra, but Shell Smash > Dragon Dance and can actually break Ferro

:Regigigas: Regigigas UR -> C I swear this is not bad, it gets Recover and SD now!

I think I might edit some replays in later
 
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