Tournaments SPL XVI DPP Discussion Thread

You got it tycarter, this was a long one, W6! And a w7 game :) I’ll start w the pkel vs bkc game and do the rest.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-822103

Pkel: :starmie: :Empoleon: :rotom-wash: :Flygon: :Lucario: :unown:

Bkc: :Skarmory: :Latias: :Clefable: :jirachi: :rotom-heat: :magneton:

Pkel: pkel brings an interesting offense based around offensive water types with 3 choiced attackers and sd Lucario. This is very similar to the teams he was running all last year and in spl so far (and id prob bet his last was something that builds off sd luke, like a Breloom or a scizor, although I could see like a scarf heatran?). I think these teams do have flaws — they particularly struggle if they brick momentum on a like Breloom or a gengar for example, and generally, while this team has empo to fall back on, if that one pivot falls, the wheels can fall off very quickly. But you do have offense — if you come to play w reads and just synergetic offense, you have the fire power (double specs attackers and scarf gon (I think?)) to give balances and offenses trouble, while stalls hate dealing w multiple trick users and Luke.

Bkc: this is going to sound particularly harsh and I’m sorry in advance, but this is perhaps the worst Dpp team used in the tournament so far. I think this team is a particularly poor choice into pkel for a few reasons. The biggest is that triple steels like this is that they’re typically strapped for team slots as a defensive team, as you need mag, a mag Bait, and then a wincon — some bad choices include a) forcing you into an uncomfortable conundrum of either using double hazard defensive skarm (who isn’t fun to use) or using rocks on clef, another terrible rocker against offense. b) your fire/water resistance is often solely Latias, who is pursuitable or like here one read away from getting drilled or if you’re lucky or sacrifice elsewhere, milo/quag, but are difficult to fit. c) good luck fitting good loom counterplay or other fighters without overloading your Latias. I would say the best version of this team either going for sd sciz (which still has huge flaws imo) w skarm /sciz / lati / mag / clef / rotom or milo or going all in on pp stall w hippo / stalk zong / skarm / mag / clef / lati or maybe all in on curse quag. I think going all in for this fast SubTect wish rachi is a bad idea, bc it doesn’t really solve any of the problems you have, it needs a lot of para support, you don’t really remove steel resists well here imo. You know pkel is probably gonna run something that particularly stresses this type of team and your teams recently have been weak to specifically hyper offense (although his team w6 not so much). His clef/lati ev spread choices particularly made empo hard here, as it 2hkoes clef and nails lati. Yeah as you can tell, I really didn’t like this team, I know bkc is one of the goats, but he made it almost impossible to win ingame w this team choice.

W6!

Pkel vs groudon

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-821741

Pkel: :Zapdos: :Jirachi: :swampert: :Latias: :Scizor: :Breloom:

Groudon: :suicune: :heatran: :Flygon: :Latias: :jirachi: :rotom-heat:

pkel brought some genuinely insane choices alongside a pretty old school offense, similar to what void brought against him a few weeks ago. Salac outrage swampert + LO loom + sciz is very cool synergy on a special offense like this to open up Latias. Everything seems to be all in on opening up the zap loom combo. I do think this team misses a heatran, maybe over the rachi (but I do think the Hp ground rachi does fit here) to help open up more defensive teams for the zapdos and give you a fighting chance against defensive rotom, but hey a very cool team that tweaks the special offense structure and still performs well.

Groudon: yeah this one is a classic that I’ve seen pkel himself use as well as oipon and I saw the original structure from pdc I believe? Normally you see scarf/trick iron Meta over the rachi slot (and I think it really should be) but hey rachi can fit there too. You see the forgotten thunder variant that died out once you realize how bad it is into grounds, but hey it fits here pretty well. I think the changes groudon made are good into the types of teams pkels typically runs though, as you don’t really need to power through defensive teams against what he’s run so far. But the basic idea of double dragons + cune + tran + steel + ghost is a well trodden team idea that works pretty well. I might have picked gar here personally as I think pkel’s teams are particularly weak to it, but I think this team had a decent shot to do well this week.

Bkc vs wtk

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-821221

Bkc: :Breloom: :Metagross: :starmie: :Tyranitar: :heatran: :Gyarados:

Wtk: :Jirachi: :Latias: :Tyranitar: :swampert: :magneton: :gliscor:

Bkc: I think it’s clearly you shouldn’t listen to me, bc bkc did change it up and then instantly lost. Queue the music, time for me to head out. But hey I do like this team choice from bkc, even if there’s some things I struggle to see the vision. you got a pretty classic physical offense backbone of meta/tar/gyara w an anti hazard scarf loom lead alongside specs star and tran. The thing I think messes me up are the sets, bc his choices on tar, Meta, and Gyara make me think he really wishes he had lati > star, unless his tar has blast last, which seems unlikely, bc for an offensive team this looks awfully weak to loom. I mean I get it, iirc excal doesn’t really like loom, you have ample offense for defensive teams, but I think someone of bkc’s caliber doesn’t have to play those games. It’s an interesting choice that’d I need to see Gyarados’s and tran’s coverage to make a comment on, as idk if I see how the pieces fit.

Wtk: I love this team choice from wtk. It’s a very cool mix of a balance and very aggro physical offense, which I thought bkc was weak to. I think the most interesting thing about this team is what it’s trying to fake. You have the fat lati + scarf rachi + pert + mag, making you think this could be that popular mag stall w pert > hippo, but then you just ramp up the offense w the cb tar and the sd three attack gliscor. The move set choices on all his mons make sense: even the Tfang w mag. Idk I just love this choice: you got double grounds + double trap gives you abundance of offense against defensive teams, fat lati + scarf rachi + mag for more offensive teams, and we all know balances can’t switch into cb tar forever. Just love this team and hope we can see some more cool builds from wtk!

Malekith vs pdc

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-821896

Malekith: :Hippowdon: :Skarmory: :magneton: :jirachi: :cradily: :gliscor:

Pdc: :jirachi: :starmie: :zapdos: :Breloom: :heatran: :Tyranitar:

This game was a lol

Malekith: frankly, this team just isn’t it. If you’re gonna build w cradily (a dubious decision), I really don’t think you can afford spikes. There’s just so many avenues this can go wrong, the biggest being Breloom, who destroyed malekith in game, but even something as simple as Gyara or tox zap or cb tar, is going to give you lots of problems. As mentioned, these triple steel teams really bootstrap against offensive threats, and this is no exception. You pretty much build this thinking cradily needs to win on the spot and your defensive core wins you by itself if cradily doesn’t win. But here it doesn’t. You prob need Latias over Skarm here, and even then, maybe you just don’t mag? Idk, but regardless, it ain’t it. Honestly, this feels more like dredge at the low ladder than in an spl game. Too many flaws to see the light of day.

Pdc: pdc ran a team I think I first built in 2010? when I started to learn Dpp post lati ban. Some interesting stuff here though. Wild rachi lead w shuca + toxic, seemingly designed to stay in vs hippo leads. Honestly, once he toxiced the hippo, zap won immediately bc loom forces out cradily all day long and he can’t keep hazards up vs starmie. I mean this is classic Dpp subroost zap that became popular post lati ban: not much to say here, other than some cool sets like the rachi, kinda odd heatwave zap, and the cb tar. I actually agree w pdc here on the cb tar calc. Even if crazily survived, he prob died to another super, or if he attacked, it prob wasn’t gonna kill tar and cradily woulda been basically dead.

Void vs crucify

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-821314

Void: :Tyranitar: :Skarmory: :Lucario: :Flygon: :gengar: :Latias:

Crucify: :azelf: :magneton: :Gyarados: :Tyranitar: :Latias: :Scizor:

Void: void brought a pretty cool take on the classic Skarm spikes offense w gar and mixed Flygon. I mentioned last week I thought this was too greedy on defensive teams but something more offensive like this it’s right at home. I think I saw bkc first use this kind of structure in jdi, but w scarf rachi instead of the Luke, who kinda died out post copycat mechanics. I like what I see here: tar can kinda do anything on these teams, so I like the rocks lead so he can go spdef skarm. Unfortunately, these teams often have fairly flimsy defensive back bones, so once Skarm is trapped and tar dies, you often have no dragon switch ins and void would have lost this game if he didn’t crit the bulky sd sciz. Regardless, still a cool take on this style, really the only way to get Luke + gar + lo gon to work imo.

Crucify: crucify had a bit crazier choices imo, and it’s sad it didn’t win. Cb azelf + mag + fat sd sciz and specs lati and gyara. I actually like it! I thought the sd sciz might be too slow to afford here, but you back it up pretty well, you have gyara + lati + mag offensively. Like I worry you can’t really switch into tar, and if it dd for free you’re not in a good spot bc sciz does a bit over half and you gotta rely on mag, but hey, the offense is here. You can park sciz in the back waiting for threats like tran, rachi, zap, etc to reveal and die and then take over the game. The name of the game w cb azelf is to win the 1v1s after you make it 5v5 and I think this team does that well.

Laurel vs dridri

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-821395

Laurel: :Bronzong: :Clefable: :magneton: :Tyranitar: :Breloom: :unown:

Dridri: :rotom-mow: :tyranitar: :nidoqueen: :tyranitar: :Clefable: :skarmory:

Laurel: hm, idk about this. On one hand he won pretty handily, but I struggle to see how well cm clef fits here. These teams were pretty common a few years ago: i think I first saw this w Meta > zong and hippo > tar (and admittedly huge change), I ran a variant in a Pokémon perfect tour I won against christos a few years ago. I think you really need normal clef here? Like you’re really putting all your eggs in the lati basket (his almost certain last) and idk if it works? I also don’t know how well tar fits here. I worry this would just get run over should Dridri used a more offensive team? I get it, on one hand, you got mag + cm gk clef, a well worn path that works well. On the other, I don’t see how well loom fits here? I think you need something fatter as your secondary loom check. I mean it works, but you need to get tox orb asap. Idk. Still working it over in my head.

Dridri: I think the main problem w this team is dridri had to huge the dreaded sr clef instead of throwing rocks on his tar or Skarm or something. Not being able to use encore, heal bell, twave, etc made cm clef a gigantic threat to his team. I mean this style of stall is pretty popular: I think this is probably the best way to do this style of team w nidoqueen, I do like the 6. I think you need protect clef + spdef Skarm to make it work, but I think it can get wins. You need these guys to survive against spec lati imo, but maybe the rotom was spdef Or something. It would kinda make sense w the choice of switching in his lati into a force palm once the clef was revealed, not wanting to take a big hit. Still has the classic issues of what do you do once the lati gets pursuitEd and the classic roar vs reflect conundrum (which he got around dropping twave, which idk if that works). Cool team
 
Ok here's the video batch for Week 7! Johnny will prob have his writeups around soon

PKeL SweeTforU vs BKC -

Void vs Laurel -

Lady Bug vs Crucify -

Groudon vs Dridri457 (LIVE) -

We Three Kings vs Christos (LIVE) -

I also recorded Lady Bug vs Laurel for Week 8 live so I'll be looking to release it either later tonight or tomorrow! Personal highlights for the remaining matches this week; BKC vs Groudon, Christos vs Pkel.
 
W7!

Dridri vs Groudon

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-822922

Dridri: :Zapdos: :starmie: :tyranitar: :Flygon: :Breloom: :Jirachi:

Groudon: :kingdra: :heatran: :Latias: :Metagross: :Breloom: :rotom-wash:

Dridri: Dridri brought a team very similar to the team wtk used earlier against ladybug w the Flygon. However, this style of team is very common, zapmie balance but what looks like a mixtar over the cb. My concern w gon in the filler slot is does gon do enough for you both offensively and defensively? I kinda agree w going for loom > cele for this and shifting rocks to rachi, esp w/o cb tar as I worry you have enough offense w just the tar zapmie , but at the same time, you do sorely miss Celebi’s bulk and role compression. I also have the same concerns w the zap lead as I did for wtk’s team. I also wonder if this would be better w double scarf w scarf rachi, as tar is pretty fat. The sub tox zap is interesting, and I thought shoulda put in work against groudon’s team. Cool team

Groudon: I like groudon’s team a lot. SFG has a very similar structure w cune + superrachi over the loom scarf rotom, but this is probably the best way to make kingdra lead work. I also wouldn’t recommend his set at lead, I think kingdra just wants to blast w specs or at least have a way to deny azelf an explosion, but hey rain worked pretty well here. It’s pretty much a classic formula: lead / tran / anti ddtar / x / lati / rotom and Meta is a great x to put in this special offense. I prob would have given tran rocks, but without knowing his sets, it’s impossible to know. Also looks like modest specs lati? Groudon has used lots of just very solid off the shelf teams this year and it’s worked well for him.

Void vs laurel:

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-822526

Void: :bronzong: :Magnezone: :Latias: :Tyranitar: :Breloom: :gliscor:

Laurel: :jirachi: :Skarmory: :magneton: :gastrodon: :celebi: :Dragonite:

Void coming w like the classic mag offense from rifht around when covid was. I always loved these teams until I figured out that it’s really hard to fit everything you want here unless you use mag like an actual dragon resist (bc zong dies quick) which void does well here. Offensively, things fit well: you got the mag supporting a loom + prob subsd gliscor. I also find these teams are a bit soft against waters even w lati and loom. These teams also can fall hard against stronger offensive teams. However, I do like this choice, think it’s a strong cool choice that has some flaws but the offense is here.

Laurel: I’m torn on this team. There’s some very cool stuff like the sd celebi and the cb nite and you always have to cheat a bit w these triple steel teams. I just don’t know about the gastro? It just seems way way too slow pace for this really work unless the team is already weak to it, and void’s team is if he can get through loom which he flinched three times. I’m not saying it isn’t supported well, bc you got the celebi and sleep talk cb nite helping you out. But honestly, even something as simple as Hp grass tran (or even just in general tran bc if it gets through the gastro it’s gg) w rocks looks like an absolute nightmare. I think gastro makes some sense here: it’s a solid wincon that does extremely well into stall, since you fit rocks on rachi you have three and half loom checks and overall, this is a very creative mag offense. I’m just not sure how scalable it is assuming your opp doesn’t know the team.

Ladybug vs crucify:

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-822871

Ladybug: :tyranitar: :Latias: :Clefable: :Jirachi: :Skarmory: :rotom-heat:

Crucify: :gliscor: :Abomasnow: :Clefable: :starmie: :Skarmory: :jirachi:

This game was a tragedy

Ladybug brought a pretty classic big 5 + rotom team. I think my thoughts on this team are well known: I think it horribly struggles w waters if they can get rid of lati, and really misses tspikes. But again, a solid classic team. Cm roar lati is an interesting choice, but to me, this makes you even weaker to suit tar/sciz. I also feel like you miss paralysis on the rachi and a bit on thr clef/tar.

Crucify: I’m trying to figure out who you have tbolt + flame for on cm clef, or if you drop ice beam, where the pursuit tar is. I just don’t understand dropping ice beam. Like ok, there’s an aboma, but this seems like an excellent team if you just used a normal cm clef? Like personally I woulda liked if you could fit knock on glis, but the 6 is great. The fact lati could roar out his clef was just awful and he couldn’t get rid of lati without the double crit. Ughhhhh! Like is flame here bc of sciz? Meta? Rachi? I just don’t get it.

Christos vs wtk:

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-822986

Christos: :Bronzong: :milotic: :Clefable: :nidoqueen: :Jirachi: :gliscor:

Wtk: :heatran: :celebi: :starmie: :jirachi: :Zapdos: :tyranitar:

Christos: yeah this is a classic at this point. Void really innovated this last year and the same 6 almost identical sets was used earlier this year too. Just classic solid tspikes stall, prob sub ih cm Thunder rachi. I do love this team though, it gives you play against a lot of offense, really punishes those zapmie balances, and you have a strong stall mu.

Wtk ran into a buzz saw here, but he used a classic that I first saw fakes use against me a few years ago but knowing fakes it prob was built by someone else (just playing fakes :): :heatran: :celebi: :starmie: :Tyranitar: :Bronzong: :gliscor:. Here we see zap and rachi take over for glis and zong. This team is very solid, you have outs for almost anything and have a solid stall mu, but really doesn’t like tspikes, which is what you see him go up against here. Honestly, yeah these types of teams have been everywhere in 2024 and so far in 25 and there’s not much more to say. It’ll be interesting to see how they adapt

Pkel vs bkc: I talked about this last week

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-822103
 
Here's the batch of DPP Videos for Week 8 as we approach the regular season finale to what has been a very exciting season's worth of DPP SPL games!

Laurel vs Lady Bug (LIVE) -

Crucify vs We Three Kings -

Groudon vs BKC -

Dridri457 vs Void -

Christos vs PKeL SweeTforU -

Personal highlights for Week 9; Void vs Groudon, SFG vs Crucify
 
There were some great teams used the last two weeks, particularly wtk’s w8 team is something I thought was very cool. However, I thought something cool to do would be to breakdown of both semifinal mus and think based on the regular season how I would prepare for the game. All four players are fantastic and it should be fun to watch!

Bkc vs Groudon:

Their w8 mu — https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-824197

bkc: :Empoleon: :kingdra: :tyranitar: :Gyarados: :Latias: (It almost certainly was Latias, he has used this team many times before):Metagross:

Groudon: :Dragonite: :starmie: :tyranitar: :Metagross: :Infernape: :Latias:

Bkc: In all honesty, bkc’s most interesting team was his w1 team (for reference: :Infernape: :kingdra: :tyranitar: :Breloom: :Latias: :metagross:), although I thought his team against dridri (:jirachi: :Zapdos: :tyranitar:(it almost certainly was) :lucario: :starmie: :Breloom:) was a very cool take on balance. I think bkc oscillated between using known teams (ie his teams against laurel and groudon, teams he’s used many times) and using imo flawed teams that strong builders (ie laurel (even though he didn’t win), void, wtk, pkel, Christos) took advantage of.

I think bkc sometimes gets too cute in the builder in dpp, trying to cover everything or having a strategy that can fall apart against opps who know what they’re doing. Take a look against at his w7 teams to see what I mean: :Breloom: :heatran: :Tyranitar: :Gyarados: :starmie: :Metagross:. This is a standard physical offense core in Dpp, meant to take advantage of loom getting a great start and put pressure on your opponent. However, his set choices on Meta, tar, and Gyara are not ultra aggressive; we don’t know the full sets and it’s hard to be absolute but lefties on both Meta and gyara over an iron ball for example or wacan/lum on Gyara screams to me pace mismatch. Or the taunt tar can work on these teams, but again, I think these set choices give the opponent room to breathe, esp when all used together. Will they help in certain mus? Absolutely, but on balance, I think this team doesn’t take advantage of the holes it makes.

It is clear I have a very different take on Dpp building than bkc does, but if I was him, I wouldn’t even look at groudon’s teams. I think throughout the season it was clear that people who used very aggressive physical offense had success against bkc, teams where getting cute when you are forced to respond to synergistic threats over and over is not possible. BKC is one of the goats of the tier, I know he can build extremely well. I think going in a direction where he can use try to take advantage of people trying to do this would be wise. I don’t think he should stall unless he heavily biases it towards beating physical offense (something like laurel’s w1 team w phys def Gyara and hippo, Kevin Garrett stall lite but obv not that team). I also think groudon will be prepared for Tyranitar offenses/balances. I honestly think something like a full rain (water spam worked great against groudon last time), a physical offense teched for opposing phys offense (for example fitting 3 attacks sd gliscor or even just standard agility meta), or even like a Cb azelf boom spam could be very effective. I’m excited to see what he brings!

Groudon: I think groudon is actually in a similar situation to bkc in that he has brought known teams either the exact 6 or something very similar and then when he mixes it up w something new, I think it isn’t as good. I think groudon is an excellent picker of teams and a strong pilot: his w1 is a great example where it’s the same well known 6, but every team except his w5 and w8 teams are known structures w small twists in them. He won in w5, but his team was a new structure and I think it was very exploitable for a stall team and I also think bkc picked apart his w8 build.

I find players like groudon challenging to pick for, but if I was him, I would take the bet that bkc probably won’t diversify and hunt for a physical or otherwise aggressive offense and play it to perfection. I think going the route wtk and void did is a great idea: disguise your physical offense w some cool choices and make him respond to you. If you want to go even further back, when bkc subbed into Dpp 2 years ago, I thought twash had a great team choice: https://pokepast.es/0e0a23c9876bf183 against him. It doesn’t have to be exactly this, but some small changes to the team or other common physical offense structure I think will work great. I think the blueprint groudon used against malekith w1 is exactly what he needs here: he played about as good as possible and kept the pressure on. Should be a great match!

Void vs Christos:

Their regular season mu: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-820519

Void: :Zapdos: :Tyranitar: :starmie: :celebi: :jirachi: :rhyperior:

Christos: :azelf: :Gyarados: :Infernape: :Tyranitar: :Latias: :Jirachi:

Void: i think void was the best player this year again and other than his opponent this time I don’t think it was close (christos also had a fantastic year subbing in for malekith). I think the pool was better than last year and the combination of smart play and great builds put void on top. Other than his w1 team, I thought week in and week out void brought the best teams w a wide variety of different team styles depending on the situation, whether that be special offense, toxic spikes, balance, stall, or physical offense or anything in between. Let’s get to his mu w christos.

I think if I’m building for void and I look at christos’s teams this year I’m targeting stall. I think while christos absolutely can build and pilot more offensive structures, he had the most success w stallier builds. I would absolutely target this: I think his balance team was a great choice, although it was a bit risky bc christos has been using a lot of tspikes. If christos goes in a stallier direction, it prob is gonna have tspikes. If I was void, I’d make sure I had a good answer to stall: void has used a ton of gliscor in the past and I think it’d be a good idea to bring one. I would avoid being too reliant on breakers like cb tar that are weak to tspikes. If he goes in a more offensive direction, I like just generally good offensive picks like metagross, force him to respond to you. I don’t think there’s any one route here: other than void himself, christos’s one loss was to an offbeat offense from dridri and something like that could absolutely work here. I could also see void going back to balance or trying what wtk did (he prob would have won if his celebi got off the hp ice) w the specs tran + cb tar balance, should be an interesting game!

Christos: great to see my man christos in the semifinal match like he deserves! Christos had the difficult task of filling in for malekith and I think he did a great job. Other than the one loss to dridri where he brought basically a sample team w rose spikes, he had a lot of success w stallier builds and had a healthy amount of offense when it was needed (ie against bkc for example).

I think christos should prob go w a defensive tspikes build, either w nidoqueen or maybe even tenta. Even though I think void will be prepared for it, cutting off breakers/spinners w tspikes I think limits down a lot of avenues void could get to him. An interesting direction could be a rebuild of that classic sd aboma team: :jirachi: :magneton: :Hippowdon: :Abomasnow: :tentacruel: :Latias:. Cm clef + mag tspikes style teams also seem like a good path here. I might be over reading how void beat christos and the path others have taken, but I don’t think an offensive tspikes team is the route here for him. If christos goes in a more offensive direction, I think maybe a special offense could be a good path: breaking w heatran + offcune stuff could be an interesting idea. Also going in the direction lady bug did with just hyper focusing on balance/stall is an interesting idea — if void bring offense, prob gg, but having an overwhelming amount of threats could be the play. Helps if void goes into a stallier direction and has offense enough for if void tries to out aggro him. Shoukd be a great game!

Thanks again for listening to me this year, always love some dpp!
 
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Just want to shout out 16bit and tycarter for playing test games this season.

In the end, I'm disappointed with my record but happy to have had a chance to play. I probably shouldn't be so hard on myself but SPL only comes once a year and I always pour my all into it.

I've already shared this, but I'm in full support of bo3 next year. Whether I come back as a player or a manager, we should push for what makes the games most competitive. The stress of having to pick a team is significantly worse than playing the game itself. My opinion on this has shifted from last SPL to this one, but that probably comes with being far more comfortable either building or loading whatever. Then to top it all off, while this isn't a problem exclusive to DPP, nothing feels worse than playing a winning game and losing to a crit on the last turn.

Would be great to eliminate as much luck from the equation as possible and maximize the better player winning.

In terms of the metagame, Spore is the #1 thing I'd like to see go. Otherwise, everything feels pretty good to me.
 
I suppose it's time to do a team dump.

Week 1 vs. Void
:starmie::heatran::tyranitar::breloom::magneton::celebi:
https://pokepast.es/64502cdba6e048a2

On a personal level, this was the most important game in SPL for me. Mainly because it is my very first game after a very long period of time and the fact that my opponent was none other than Void, who went 9-0 last year. I started off with a standard structure of Breloom and Heatran, and ended up with this weird anti-stall/balance team. PDC suggested that due to me not playing in a long time and having 0 scout for the past 9 years that Void would opt for something very safe like stall. He was 100% correct. Celebi originally had Psychic and Earth Power as its attacking moves, but 48 suggested to try HP Ice out and it worked out better ovreall in tests. I doubt I'll use a STAB-less Celebi again, but who knows. Very happy with how I played this game.

Week 2 vs. Groudon
:raikou::jirachi::flygon::rotom-heat::suicune::bronzong:
https://pokepast.es/6fa3f648bd5577c6

This team was frankly a poor attempt from me at making an anti-offense team. Groudon's scouts had only offensive teams and 0 stalls, so I once again went all in on the matchup here. The team kind of doesn't make much sense as a whole but it worked well in tests versus the type of teams I thought Groudon would bring. I made a huge mistake in that game when I clicked Substitute with Suicune on a 1% Heatran while I was behind a sub, fearing a Custap... but he had used SR at 1% and there was no Custap berry. Just a silly mistake. Would've been in a much better position had I just decided to KO the Heatran with Surf. I knew it was a +SpA nature after calcing the damage on Bronzong midgame, so Suicune was faster for sure.

Week 3 vs. We Three Kings
:jirachi::zapdos::starmie::tyranitar::breloom::lucario:
https://pokepast.es/39283fc787ca885f

This was just Le Don's team from last year (rip). I think it was in semis? Suggsted to be used for this week by Jirachee I believe. He original had a physically defensive Clefable over Lucario, which I changed after some testing to help me revenge kill stuff. The only other change I mad was Tyranitar's speed to outspeed defensive Rotom, who is a pain to this team. I thought I played this game very well and was happy with the team.

Week 4 vs. SFG
:breloom::heatran::tyranitar::gengar::milotic::flygon:
https://pokepast.es/8db9d675c08391b1

I believe this was one of PDC's old teams. We just made some edits to it and went with it. We were still working on a team for Pkel as the sub happened, so this wasn't meant for Pkel. No clue how that team would've looked like. Anyway, SFG's scout suggested offense so we thought this will do well against an offensive team. They ended up brining something else but the matchup was still good, just one yellow magic moment ruined the game for me. I got lucky with sleep on Zapdos too so can't complain too much. Second half of the game I was kinda tilted by the paralysis on pursuit and didn't perform the best as the game was still winnable, so that's on me I suppose.

Week 5 vs. BKC
:gallade::metagross::starmie::tyranitar::zapdos::flygon:
https://pokepast.es/9e301df57417b856

We didn't even bother with a scout this week because BKC can just use about anything. I honestly had no clue what to use this week and depended on PDC for the team, which he made by himself. We were talking about lead Gallade since the beginning of SPL in our chat (thanks Eden) and PDC made a cool squad with it that worked well for the most part, so we went with it. Matchup was tough I felt like, but it was defintely winnable. BKC played very well in the key turns, that Heatran switch on Trick was nasty... I had the most fun playing this game despite the loss.

Week 7 vs. crucify
:tyranitar::skarmory::clefable::latias::rotom-heat::jirachi:
https://pokepast.es/5de5f90b6e49f013

Once again, this team was made by PDC. He has been suggesting stall for some weeks and I finally decided to bring it for this week. We expected some offense team from crucify as he usually uses them, but he also decided to bring stall here. Matchup was probably more in my favor due to the fact that my CM Latias beat his CM Clefable. I thought I played very well around Starmie and that gave me a huge lead in the game. It felt nice to use stall again not gonna lie. I used to be mostly a stall player back then.

Week 8 vs. Laurel
:jirachi::latias::zapdos::hitmontop::magneton::magnezone:
https://pokepast.es/65969ab535c083f5

Morale was down this week since we were 100% eliminated after our defeat in the previous week. It was hard to try coming up with something good. I didn't have a team or any idea what I wanna use by Friday, then suddenly I decided to go with the mag cheese strategy. Most of you have probably seen how it works multiple times in the DPP Discord server, as Shing has linked it multiple times. Main idea is to Trick the opposing Steel types and lock them into SR as I switch to Magneton/Magnezone to set up the recycle strategy. Sadly the team Laurel brought was a bad target for this strategy. Scizor is defintely a decent target after it locks into Bullet Punch, but you need to be lucky with the misses/full paras. I messed up the order because I went for Thunder Wave and then Flash with Magenton, but according to Shing it's Flash first. I could have probably gone for a different path of winning the game normally after seeing Laurel's team, but I was adamant on winning with this strategy and it didn't work out in the end.

Week 9 vs. Dridri457
:skarmory::abomasnow::spiritomb::blissey::heracross::starmie:
https://pokepast.es/424b6128640d94b4

Since the start of this SPL I had both Dri and Pkel as prime targets for a hail team due to the nature of their usual offensive teams. Eden had a cool SD Abomasnow team that he wanted me to use but it just didn't feel solid enough for me, so I kept trying to make a decent hail team but it was just difficult in today's meta. Hail usually ended up working against me rather than for me in most games. At the end I decided to take my old hail stall team and tweak it a little to help it win in today's meta. Main issue for the old team was Clefable, that's why I opted for a defensive Heracross and SD on Abomasnow. That game me 2 ways to deal with the biggest threat. Overall the team defintely had a lot of issues but it worked out decently for the most part. I'm happy that I magaed to win with it because it's my favorite team of all time. (sorry for the crit on Gyara and the Focus Blast miss at the end Dri!)

I'm very happy that I got to play in SPL again after many years and also happy with my final record of 4-4 considering everything. I originally just wanted to play again one last time and go back to retirement, because I'm a lot older now with lots of resposibilites and I don't have the free time I had back then/I want to do other things with m y free time, but I kind of got sucked back in it. I might just stick around for a little longer...

One last thing I wanted to talk about is my personal thoughts on the current DPP meta. The game has defintely evolved a lot over the years and for the most part DPP feels "solved" right now. I admit, I'm not a huge fan of the current DPP and don't find myself be enjoying it a lot. Perhaps I'm just burnt out from only playing this tier. Either way, I will most likely not play DPP for a while and try to discover other gens. ADV here I come...
 
I suppose it's time to do a team dump.

Week 1 vs. Void
:starmie::heatran::tyranitar::breloom::magneton::celebi:
https://pokepast.es/64502cdba6e048a2

On a personal level, this was the most important game in SPL for me. Mainly because it is my very first game after a very long period of time and the fact that my opponent was none other than Void, who went 9-0 last year. I started off with a standard structure of Breloom and Heatran, and ended up with this weird anti-stall/balance team. PDC suggested that due to me not playing in a long time and having 0 scout for the past 9 years that Void would opt for something very safe like stall. He was 100% correct. Celebi originally had Psychic and Earth Power as its attacking moves, but 48 suggested to try HP Ice out and it worked out better ovreall in tests. I doubt I'll use a STAB-less Celebi again, but who knows. Very happy with how I played this game.

Week 2 vs. Groudon
:raikou::jirachi::flygon::rotom-heat::suicune::bronzong:
https://pokepast.es/6fa3f648bd5577c6

This team was frankly a poor attempt from me at making an anti-offense team. Groudon's scouts had only offensive teams and 0 stalls, so I once again went all in on the matchup here. The team kind of doesn't make much sense as a whole but it worked well in tests versus the type of teams I thought Groudon would bring. I made a huge mistake in that game when I clicked Substitute with Suicune on a 1% Heatran while I was behind a sub, fearing a Custap... but he had used SR at 1% and there was no Custap berry. Just a silly mistake. Would've been in a much better position had I just decided to KO the Heatran with Surf. I knew it was a +SpA nature after calcing the damage on Bronzong midgame, so Suicune was faster for sure.

Week 3 vs. We Three Kings
:jirachi::zapdos::starmie::tyranitar::breloom::lucario:
https://pokepast.es/39283fc787ca885f

This was just Le Don's team from last year (rip). I think it was in semis? Suggsted to be used for this week by Jirachee I believe. He original had a physically defensive Clefable over Lucario, which I changed after some testing to help me revenge kill stuff. The only other change I mad was Tyranitar's speed to outspeed defensive Rotom, who is a pain to this team. I thought I played this game very well and was happy with the team.

Week 4 vs. SFG
:breloom::heatran::tyranitar::gengar::milotic::flygon:
https://pokepast.es/8db9d675c08391b1

I believe this was one of PDC's old teams. We just made some edits to it and went with it. We were still working on a team for Pkel as the sub happened, so this wasn't meant for Pkel. No clue how that team would've looked like. Anyway, SFG's scout suggested offense so we thought this will do well against an offensive team. They ended up brining something else but the matchup was still good, just one yellow magic moment ruined the game for me. I got lucky with sleep on Zapdos too so can't complain too much. Second half of the game I was kinda tilted by the paralysis on pursuit and didn't perform the best as the game was still winnable, so that's on me I suppose.

Week 5 vs. BKC
:gallade::metagross::starmie::tyranitar::zapdos::flygon:
https://pokepast.es/9e301df57417b856

We didn't even bother with a scout this week because BKC can just use about anything. I honestly had no clue what to use this week and depended on PDC for the team, which he made by himself. We were talking about lead Gallade since the beginning of SPL in our chat (thanks Eden) and PDC made a cool squad with it that worked well for the most part, so we went with it. Matchup was tough I felt like, but it was defintely winnable. BKC played very well in the key turns, that Heatran switch on Trick was nasty... I had the most fun playing this game despite the loss.

Week 7 vs. crucify
:tyranitar::skarmory::clefable::latias::rotom-heat::jirachi:
https://pokepast.es/5de5f90b6e49f013

Once again, this team was made by PDC. He has been suggesting stall for some weeks and I finally decided to bring it for this week. We expected some offense team from crucify as he usually uses them, but he also decided to bring stall here. Matchup was probably more in my favor due to the fact that my CM Latias beat his CM Clefable. I thought I played very well around Starmie and that gave me a huge lead in the game. It felt nice to use stall again not gonna lie. I used to be mostly a stall player back then.

Week 8 vs. Laurel
:jirachi::latias::zapdos::hitmontop::magneton::magnezone:
https://pokepast.es/65969ab535c083f5

Morale was down this week since we were 100% eliminated after our defeat in the previous week. It was hard to try coming up with something good. I didn't have a team or any idea what I wanna use by Friday, then suddenly I decided to go with the mag cheese strategy. Most of you have probably seen how it works multiple times in the DPP Discord server, as Shing has linked it multiple times. Main idea is to Trick the opposing Steel types and lock them into SR as I switch to Magneton/Magnezone to set up the recycle strategy. Sadly the team Laurel brought was a bad target for this strategy. Scizor is defintely a decent target after it locks into Bullet Punch, but you need to be lucky with the misses/full paras. I messed up the order because I went for Thunder Wave and then Flash with Magenton, but according to Shing it's Flash first. I could have probably gone for a different path of winning the game normally after seeing Laurel's team, but I was adamant on winning with this strategy and it didn't work out in the end.

Week 9 vs. Dridri457
:skarmory::abomasnow::spiritomb::blissey::heracross::starmie:
https://pokepast.es/424b6128640d94b4

Since the start of this SPL I had both Dri and Pkel as prime targets for a hail team due to the nature of their usual offensive teams. Eden had a cool SD Abomasnow team that he wanted me to use but it just didn't feel solid enough for me, so I kept trying to make a decent hail team but it was just difficult in today's meta. Hail usually ended up working against me rather than for me in most games. At the end I decided to take my old hail stall team and tweak it a little to help it win in today's meta. Main issue for the old team was Clefable, that's why I opted for a defensive Heracross and SD on Abomasnow. That game me 2 ways to deal with the biggest threat. Overall the team defintely had a lot of issues but it worked out decently for the most part. I'm happy that I magaed to win with it because it's my favorite team of all time. (sorry for the crit on Gyara and the Focus Blast miss at the end Dri!)

I'm very happy that I got to play in SPL again after many years and also happy with my final record of 4-4 considering everything. I originally just wanted to play again one last time and go back to retirement, because I'm a lot older now with lots of resposibilites and I don't have the free time I had back then/I want to do other things with m y free time, but I kind of got sucked back in it. I might just stick around for a little longer...

One last thing I wanted to talk about is my personal thoughts on the current DPP meta. The game has defintely evolved a lot over the years and for the most part DPP feels "solved" right now. I admit, I'm not a huge fan of the current DPP and don't find myself be enjoying it a lot. Perhaps I'm just burnt out from only playing this tier. Either way, I will most likely not play DPP for a while and try to discover other gens. ADV here I come...
That final team was indeed epic, I saw the TyCarter video & this is a cool mix between your Lead Scizor theme team (Sleeptalk Hera) & a Hail RMT stall back in 2009, also I will apologize for being too harsh on your week 8 team. I got carried away & was reminded of some bad Ninjask match ups during ADV ladders.
 
Alright not as many games this week but here we are with the last regular season batch of videos.

SFG vs Crucify (LIVE) -

BKC vs Christos -

Lady Bug vs Dridri457 -

Playlist for all regular season matches: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8pI_pWQDa9b4wumBjWHKLp6i67e2StnQ&si=MGdlGZBpRBckjHsF

personal predicts for semifinals:

Groudon vs BKC - 40/60

Christos vs Void - 45/55

very exciting pairings overall. I will hopefully try to record these live!
 
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1. Groudon back again demanding a rematch with a vengence! Could be either way, tilt BKC so long as BKC can answer to Physical Offense.

2. Void could take the win given the record, but Christos is picking up steam recently.

Also, more TyCarter content!
 
going to follow up a bit from lady bug's post as part of the cryos dpp squad and offer my insights into the teams he posted, and a few of my own creation that either i used or didn't make the cut.

Week 1 vs. Void
:starmie::heatran::tyranitar::breloom::magneton::celebi:
https://pokepast.es/64502cdba6e048a2

i didn't build this team, but i did offer the idea of np celebi vs void. basically, i knew void was going to stall us out the gate b/c lady bug had just returned from a long hiatus and stall is generally a safe pick when you think your opponent won't be able to break through it. i suggested np celebi + mag b/c it is a combo which allows for a lot of flexibility, and can avoid the status/hazard vortex effectively while also providing a solid base for other standard articulations like zap/mie/jira/tran/tar/loom type teams. i think np celebi is underappreciated and i have advocated for its usage in prior spls (see: christo v. malekith a few years back) as it has incredible resiliency for a set-up sweeper and can be extremely hard for teams that rely exclusively on clef or twave for special attackers.

Week 4 vs. SFG
:breloom::heatran::tyranitar::gengar::milotic::flygon:
https://pokepast.es/8db9d675c08391b1

i probably could have advocated for smth a bit better here. however, this is a build i find generally solid and it is easy to play with. the set variations can also be tricky for an opponent to deal with given how rarely mons like offensive milotic pop-up nowadays. honestly, this team is not great into defense -- i figured we would be facing some type of offense initially this week before the sub. dual scarf is very apt at shutting down set-up heavy offenses especially when combined with milotic + gengar. solid team, but honestly probably a bit outdated.

Week 5 vs. BKC
:gallade::metagross::starmie::tyranitar::zapdos::flygon:
https://pokepast.es/9e301df57417b856

i didn't really aim for a good MU this week and i told lady bug bkc was probably going to just bring a random solid balance team. no point in trying hard for a MU that wouldn't come. however, i am a fan of using wonky/creative stuff in scenarios like these, and eden's suggestion of lead gallade spurred this creation. i get the feeling this team isn't that acclaimed, and honestly i question whether i would use it again myself, but it is really fun to play with and trickscarf lead gallade can generate a lot of really good surprise matchups. if you want an unorthodox team to flex around with, this is a good pick.

Week 7 vs. crucify
:tyranitar::skarmory::clefable::latias::rotom-heat::jirachi:
https://pokepast.es/5de5f90b6e49f013

this is just the standard big 6 stall from yesteryear with a few alterations. i really like dual wish on this build. this team feels unbreakable in some matchups, and i think i really perfected it for our purposes here. uturn wish jira is incredibly useful as you can heal up ttar/clef/skarm/rotom on so many swaps. this team struggles w/ ddtar and cm clef to a pretty high degree so make sure you deal w/ those mons w/ caution. however, this team is a pretty solid iteration of the ttar-skarm-clef stall archetype and it does its job well. would use again.

my week 4 team vs malekith was a standard big 6 fwg build. the real innovation on the team was the sr/ih/fp/tox @ shuca jirachi set. i kicked around the idea of subtox jira this week (and the week prior, and before that, and...) but i wasn't able to get a team that i really loved. the lead set featured here was not even going to end up on the final version, but it performed amazingly. jirachi is somehow still incredibly unexplored in dpp and while this set certainly is nothing special, it is a pain to deal w/ for any team that overly relies on their ground type to swap into jirachi. a toxic on a pert/hippo/glisc early can swing the tide of the game. zapdos, rotom, and other fat mons also are annoyed to death by the combo of ih + tox. the only issue is how badly this set gets owned by heatran. however, as long as you get rocks and manage your mie/tar/tran well, you can usually deal with it just fine.

https://pokepast.es/df97db1a708df219 - sample magclef build

made this right after we got knocked out. this is just another take on the standard big 6 stall but w/ cm clef and mag to support. also really good, i like this build a lot and it owns. has a lot of difficulty with ddtar though. i think sdef ttar is super underrated, and it needs to be explored more on defensive builds. it quite literally walls every single special attacker in the tier. cune/mie/emp are doing 50% to this thing even when they are completely offensive (besides boosts/specs), and ttar can cripple them effectively w/ eq or crunch. give this guy consistent wishpass support and you're set. vs mons like cm jira, tran, zap, etc. this guy just sits on them indefinitely.

i also would like to provide some short observations about dpp in general. i don't agree that dpp is "solved," in fact i think this tier is really ripe for innovation and we see strokes of genius in it more than any other old gen imo. however, i do think dpp suffers from a bit of a glut when its major players lay low for awhile. right now, i think the teams i posted above (sdef ttar, fwg big 6) are really solid, along with other mag-jira-ground builds that just decimate other defense teams. overall, i think dpp is in a good spot and i am excited to see where it goes next. i think there are plenty of sets, especially on stall, that need to be pushed more post-machamp.

speaking of now newly banned mons, i think that jirachi is fine for the tier and while certainly annoying is not unmanageable. i would be sad to see it go given the role it plays on so many different playstyles. if anything, i actually think jirachi improves the metagame (not like "improvement" is in my tiering philosophy, but it is a policy argument).

anyway, these are some of my thoughts/teams over the season.
 
i'll post the teams i made, i've used teams from others player so no point showing them (often modifying them to make them worse lol...), my teambuilder is a mess, and i've got different versions of everyone, so i might have mistaked a set for another.

vs W3K https://pokepast.es/da09d18dbf3a385d originally the idea was band zong to weaken/trick stuff that could hinder a dd dnite sweep, after tests i prefered dd gyara over dd dnite, starmie lead helps identifying opponent water resist to build gameplan for gyara sweep, and can do 1 spin usually to support it.

vs i don't remember https://pokepast.es/6da903168560d65f the idea was offense with nasty plot lum berry celebi, coverage is an issue for that set, u either hit skarm/bronzong or latias with hp fire/hp ice so combining it with mag magnet rise solved the coverage issue, band scizor enjoys mag support and helps in pursuiting latias to helps celebi even more + bring speed control (mag kinda allows ttar to dd which would kill the team if not), mag endure-custap helped for more speed control, starmie gave more speed to that slow team and can hardly be switched on, + bring some flexibility with spin for dd dnite end game.

vs crucify https://pokepast.es/cf708a8f49c348d5 honestly simple bomb spam, originally the plan was band ttar, but team was kinda offense weak, and scarf ttar helped a lot, rahter than using mag like u usually do in this kind of team, plan is just booming killing it or abusing it with taunt gyara (and yes laurel i got the idea seeing u play it) with scarf latias giving plenty of support with healing wish to have one of our mon at full life again if necessary.

rest of the teams were modifications of teams from fakes le don and sharow, so no real point showing them.

Big thanks to le don and shing for their support all tour, i didn't get as much time as i wanted, and i didn't get the result i wanted, but i had lots of fun anyway, really fun edition with lots of interesting players, void still being a menace, pkel showing up with cool teams and cool plays, the BKC we always wanted to have, ladybug lovely presence, lots of great teams and plays from everyone. Loved this edition.
 
Double dpp tiebreak let’s go! Two great mus between bihi and bkc and then the third christos vs void pairing. Should be great!

Bkc vs groudon: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-826872

Bkc: :Zapdos: :starmie: :Roserade: :Flygon: :Metagross: :Hippowdon:

Groudon: :swampert: :Scizor: :Empoleon: :Infernape: :gengar: :Latias:

Bkc: this feels like LeBron in the playoffs, this is more what I’m talking about. I like this team! The person (post Latias) I’ve seen use hippo + rose spikes was kristyl, but this is a different take on it, w tect star + subroost zap to back up w tspikes. Rose spikes kinda died out a few years ago bc they lack backbone against hyper offense and for a special offense you don’t really pressure defensive teams that are immune to most spikes enough, but hippo gives you flexibility in team slots to support heavy hitters like subsplit gar and more offensive heatran sets, but we don’t see that here. The Meta over the normal rachi gives you more offense w a boom and a secure rachi check of your own (you can’t para it w star, zap doesn’t want to take it on), gon gives you some speed control on an otherwise slow team. I think this team might inspire some more exploration w non twave support star, but the more common option is reflect (something I think bkc used originally way back in the day), yet protect was incredibly useful here (I also give bkc the pilot a lot of credit, he played it fantastic).

To afford having such a passive star, bkc needed to take liberties against more offensive stuff, and you see that here w the hippo, zap, and scarf gon. I still think this team is quite weak to Gyarados, assuming rose isn’t fully phys def (he relied on it to check gar so it prob isn’t), simply bc you lead zap and a team that relies on zap to beat Gyara (and flygon tpunch) is not very secure against it. A bigger thought however is dropping the ghost; very interesting without any way to spinblock starmie w hippo rocker and no way to remove star w a pursuiter. I wouldn’t be surprised if bkc fit tpunch on meta or simply fished no starmie (iirc not bkc’s style, but I don’t think groudon brought a starmie the whole tour).

Groudon: I’m not really a fan of groudon’s team here. I think groudon tried to recreate the magic of his game against malekith, but there’s too many things that I just don’t understand on his team. You can see the special offense structure: water / steel (empo can fit over heatran) / anti-ddtar w sciz / x (ape) / ghost / Latias. However, I think this team desperately wants a boom, some way to push the pressure against something your sciz / pert / ape offensive core struggles against. I think this team really wants a heatran over the empo. Now I get why empo is here, you need some back up for lati against waters bc you have pert and ape, but you could have imo afforded like a passho tran and perhaps removed starmie (although protecting on the boom woulda been evil). I think this team lacks offense period: you have scarf lati, Hp elec ape w slack off prob ebelt, mixpert, and gar as your offense. I don’t think that’s enough to either break more defensive teams.

I think in general imo, groudon went w choices that belied his offense and gave him less chances to win. Empo has lefties, ape has Hp elec and slack off and not uturn, going w gar means lati is scarf and not specs, I don’t really like lead offpert anyway, sciz is good w band, but if it fails to trap like in this game you can’t really put on pressure like sd sets do. This team also happens to be horrifically weak into tspikes, but I give that a pass. Special offense like this really relies on synergy (and explosion) to put pressure on defensive teams and have naturally strong mons (think suicune) into more physically offensive teams. Look at what pkel ran of this type of team against bkc. Multiple synergetic attackers like specs rotom specs star (ok maybe this isn’t a good example) but he concluded w sd Luke. If sd Luke + tran was on this team, do you think it’d be better? Of if he fit a scarf Meta here w boom (the more standard way of fitting gar on a team like this) would it have won? Idk, but I think it would have given groudon more of a chance. Excited to see what bihi brings!

Void vs christos: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen4ou-826611?p2

Void: :uxie: :kingdra: :ludicolo: :Jirachi: :Qwilfish: :Bronzong:

Christos: :Zapdos: :Flygon: :Metagross: :suicune: :heatran: :gengar:

Void: we see a fascinating rain choice from void here, I believe the second all season and the first that’s a relatively standard structure of lead / kingdra / Qwilfish / zong / x / x. I think his patented ih Thunder sub cm rachi is a fantastic choice here, assuming alongside tspikes qwil to stick it to balance and stall while taking advantage of the rain. I also think ludi is the best choice for the x on rain, bc it’s so threatening w rain up, can double a rain supporter, and grass stab really helps push through waters. Other than that (twave uxie is cool here over something like Thunder, but uxie is a great twaver anyway), everything else is pretty standard and his choices above aren’t that off the wall.

I think the choice to rain is the more interesting question. While I think it covers everything christos has been using, has a tspikes absorber to counter what I said last week, and christos hasn’t been using a ton of hippo/tar/aboma iirc, full rain has been out of vogue for a while now, simply due to being an all in play style and its checks (weather of your own, fast electrics and other attackers like lati and gar, status esp para, bulky offensive waters like cune and gyara, relying on hydro accuracy, etc) being widespread in Dpp. If you look at the list, christos I think was very well prepared for rain, but void did get some crucial luck w a crit on gar w his -2 kingdra that really opened up the game for him, although I think he was in a decent position. I think there’s a reason void will prob soon have the most all time wins in spl dpp: sometimes you just need a pocket rain to bust out in high stakes bo1 Dpp.

Christos: I do like this team from christos here. This special offense looks very similar to an old Jimmy turtwig team that came out right after Latias’s reintroduction: :Zapdos: :suicune: :Metagross: :heatran: :Latias: :Flygon: but we see gar over ebelt lati and a more defensive zap set w subtox. there are some interesting synergies here: you have trick iron meta really opening up everybody the main one being gon, but cune and gar love it too. Tran booming on clef for zap and cune. Gar being a menace. The only thing is maybe you miss Latias here bc you don’t have trick and its resistance palette, but you get subroost zap instead which is superior defensively to specs lati except to water.

As I said, I think christos is well prepared against rain. if I was him, I don’t think I would have expected a rain, but what he brought has a solid mu against rain. He even has a great counter to void’s rain sweeper in flygon and Meta ate a ludi pump to boom on it and cripple the kingdra w an iron ball. Fast Zapdos is historically very annoying for rain as are gengar and offensive suicune. I think he got a bit of a bad break against the rachi and gar crit but I give void credit for maneuvering and getting the most out of Kingdra (I think draco was a high roll on zap, bc if he didn’t get it, he’s in a lot of trouble EDIT: I ran the damage calc and Zapdos has a lot of spa and almost no hp, I don’t think it was a high roll) despite getting tricked an iron ball and zap crit the rachi through calm mind. I also think he needed to get rocks up, but then again heatran was being pressured by rachi and only got one move off and that was break Sub (the correct play imo). I’m excited to see the rematch!
 
Hi here's the semifinals tiebreak match uploaded!

BIHI vs BKC -
Groudon vs Christos - 45/55

I think Christos has the edge in builder, very interesting finals matchup between 2 DPP players who were bought at the auction for a relatively cheap price. I think Christos looked like he held his own a lot better against Void than Groudon did against BKC in semifinals. Main thing going against Groudon was that he looked like he struggled in his games against the upper echelon of this pool which is the probably the main red flag here, and it wasn't like he made any crucial errors looking back on his games; it's just moreso he played a bit too linearly at times. While Christos has beaten better competitors in his pool, I think he had some minor misplays here and there, but they are things that can be cleaned up. This is also gonna be a fun stylistic clash in the prep department for both players as Groudon is someone who's generally favored offense this season whereas Christos has favored more defensive leaning teams overall. I look forward to seeing what both players bring!
 
BKC ended off with a bang, that’s my GOAT!

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