OU SPL XII - RBY Discussion

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mncmt and rozes decided to play as soon as the round went up for reasons I don't know.

Only 7 people were able to get their predicts in before the match started (we had 18 people predict in Week 4 and 29 different people in total) so with such low turnount (which is nobody's fault of course) -- mncmt vs. rozes predictions will not count for anyone for this week. I think this is fairest for everyone since <50% of last weeks turnout was able to pick and the game happened so ridiculously early.
 
So it seems like the coin has faded to the back of the pack among people who predicted in every week thus far (save one unnamed individual). Let's see if we can make up some ground.
  • [RAI] Aliss vs. spies [TYR]
  • [CRY] Nails vs. SadisticNarhwal [TIG]
  • [SHA] Kiichikos vs. Hayburner [BIG]
  • [WOL] SMB vs. Serpi [SCO]
  • [RUI] mncmt vs. rozes [CLA] (ignore this because it happened already)
Flip.
 
[RAI] Aliss vs. spies [TYR]
[CRY] Nails vs. SadisticNarhwal [TIG]
[SHA] Kiichikos vs. Hayburner [BIG]
[WOL] SMB vs. Serpi [SCO]
[RUI] mncmt vs. rozes [CLA]
 
[RAI] Aliss vs. spies [TYR]
[CRY] Nails vs. SadisticNarhwal [TIG]
[SHA] Kiichikos vs. Hayburner [BIG]
[WOL] SMB vs. Serpi [SCO]
[RUI] mncmt vs. rozes [CLA]
 
Sets and Team Highlights - WEEK 4
thank you Kiichikos for your help :pleading_face:
:rb/chansey:
Heroic Troller's Sing Chansey
[13:43:15] +SMB: the way troller plays sing chansey would be a good write up for your rby thread btw
[13:43:40] +SMB: he's the only one who plays it that way

Heroic Troller vs. SadisticNarwhal - Game 2 - Turn 142

A common goal of Sing Chansey teams is to switch Chansey in Turn 1 against a Thunder Wave and use Sing against Starmie or Alakazam leads, while sack something to Sleep against Jynx or Gengar leads (assuming the Sing Chansey user is leading Starmie). As we can see in this Week 2 game, Serpi lets his Starmie get Lovely Kissed and is able to Sing Kiichikos's Jynx on Turn 5 after a bit of switching. Here we see rozes switch in Chansey Turn 1 against a Starmie and get Sing off Turn 2. All in all, Sing Chansey teams want to be able to get their sleep off ASAP.

However, Heroic Troller uses his Sing Chansey in a completely different way. As we see in this week's Game 2 against SadisticNarwhal, Heroic Troller doesn't successfully get his sleep off until Turn 142 when there's only six Pokemon left in total. Troller purposely paralyzes the Jynx Turn 1 and then goes to Snorlax to apply pressure, which is a common sequence if he was running Exeggutor.

Troller finally reveals Sing on Turn 81, trying to catch a Snorlax switch. While Narwhal stayed in with paralyzed Jynx and the result wasn't what Troller wanted, the process was still good. Saving Sing Chansey until now meant Narwhal wasn't safe to bring in anything against Chansey bar Jynx, which couldn't even freeze it because it had been Thunder Waved. On Turn 90, Troller catches Tauros (!) on the switch but unfortunately misses. Finally, on Turn 142, Troller finally successfully puts something to sleep and seals the game away.

While Troller saving Sing didn't work the way he hoped, I still want to bring attention to his gameplay. Once Jynx got its sleep off, its usefulness goes down significantly. It made zero progress after using Lovely Kiss, only getting damage off on Snorlax (healed off), Chansey (healed off), Alakazam (healed off), and Starmie (sacked to Sleep). Instead of using his sleep on something useless, Troller was able to save it for something actually threatening. While it didn't work out in this match, Troller's long-term thinking and patience is really interesting and can be extremely effective. I wonder if more players try the same thing when facing Jynx teams with Sing Chansey!

no highlight team this week :(

USAGE STATS TRENDS
1. :rb/exeggutor: Exeggutor once again had >50% usage and has clearly cemented itself as the tier's fifth most used Pokemon overall.
2. :rb/gengar: Following 7 uses and 5 wins in Week 1, Gengar has only been used four total times (once in W3, three in W4) and has won none of them. Its down to a <50% win rate.
3. :rb/slowbro: Slowbro only had two uses, but it amassed two wins and is now at a 78% win rate overall -- highest for any Pokemon with at least two uses.​
 
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Week 5
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Moves and Teammates | Combos | Leads
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+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Snorlax            |   24 | 100.00% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Chansey            |   23 |  95.83% |  52.17% |
| 3    | Tauros             |   22 |  91.67% |  45.45% |
| 4    | Starmie            |   17 |  70.83% |  47.06% |
| 5    | Exeggutor          |   16 |  66.67% |  50.00% |
| 6    | Alakazam           |   12 |  50.00% |  58.33% |
| 7    | Slowbro            |    6 |  25.00% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Jolteon            |    5 |  20.83% |  60.00% |
| 9    | Rhydon             |    4 |  16.67% |  50.00% |
| 10   | Cloyster           |    3 |  12.50% |  66.67% |
| 11   | Jynx               |    2 |   8.33% |  50.00% |
| 11   | Lapras             |    2 |   8.33% |  50.00% |
| 11   | Gengar             |    2 |   8.33% |   0.00% |
| 14   | Zapdos             |    1 |   4.17% | 100.00% |
| 14   | Victreebel         |    1 |   4.17% |   0.00% |
| 14   | Sandslash          |    1 |   4.17% |   0.00% |
| 14   | Articuno           |    1 |   4.17% |   0.00% |
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from FUYURI.
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from SMB.
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Weeks 1-5
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Moves and Teammates | Combos | Leads
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| Rank | Pokemon            | Use  | Usage % |  Win %  |
+ ---- + ------------------ + ---- + ------- + ------- +
| 1    | Snorlax            |  124 | 100.00% |  50.00% |
| 2    | Chansey            |  122 |  98.39% |  50.82% |
| 3    | Tauros             |  121 |  97.58% |  48.76% |
| 4    | Starmie            |   99 |  79.84% |  48.48% |
| 5    | Exeggutor          |   67 |  54.03% |  55.22% |
| 6    | Alakazam           |   50 |  40.32% |  54.00% |
| 7    | Rhydon             |   32 |  25.81% |  50.00% |
| 8    | Jynx               |   28 |  22.58% |  42.86% |
| 9    | Jolteon            |   24 |  19.35% |  41.67% |
| 10   | Cloyster           |   16 |  12.90% |  56.25% |
| 11   | Slowbro            |   15 |  12.10% |  66.67% |
| 12   | Gengar             |   13 |  10.48% |  38.46% |
| 13   | Zapdos             |   10 |   8.06% |  50.00% |
| 14   | Lapras             |    9 |   7.26% |  33.33% |
| 15   | Victreebel         |    4 |   3.23% |  25.00% |
| 16   | Articuno           |    2 |   1.61% |  50.00% |
| 17   | Sandslash          |    1 |   0.81% |   0.00% |
| 17   | Dragonite          |    1 |   0.81% |   0.00% |
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from FUYURI.
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from SMB.
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from TIBA.
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from SPIESC.
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from HAYBURNER.
  • Missing 1 Pokemon from HAYBURNER.
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  • [RAI] Aliss vs Nails [CRY]
  • [SHA] Kiichikos vs spies [TYR]
  • [WOL] SMB vs SadisticNarwhal [TIG]
  • [RUI] hyogafodex vs Hayburner [BIG]
  • [CLA] rozes vs Serpi [SCO]
 
[RAI] Aliss vs Nails [CRY]
[SHA] Kiichikos
vs spies [TYR]
[WOL] SMB vs SadisticNarwhal [TIG]
[RUI] hyogafodex vs Hayburner [BIG]
[CLA] rozes vs Serpi [SCO]
 
[RAI] Aliss vs Nails [CRY]
[SHA] Kiichikos vs spies [TYR]
[WOL] SMB vs SadisticNarwhal [TIG]
[RUI] hyogafodex vs Hayburner [BIG]
[CLA] rozes vs Serpi [SCO]
 
Hyogafodex and Hayburner have scheduled for tomorrow 5 PM GMT-5. Make sure you get your predictions in before that!

My Picks:
  • RAI] Aliss vs Nails [CRY]
  • [SHA] Kiichikos vs spies [TYR]
  • [WOL] SMB vs SadisticNarwhal [TIG]
  • [RUI] hyogafodex vs Hayburner [BIG]
  • [CLA] rozes vs Serpi [SCO]
 
Reality is often disappointing.
  • [RAI] Aliss vs Nails [CRY]
  • [SHA] Kiichikos vs spies [TYR]
  • [WOL] SMB vs SadisticNarwhal [TIG]
  • [RUI] hyogafodex vs Hayburner [BIG]
  • [CLA] rozes vs Serpi [SCO]
Clink, clink.
 
Is this the place to ask wtf happened to Troller? Why isn't he playing?
The short version as I know it (this is pretty much from what Troller told me, information might be slightly biased):
Ruiners kind of imploded after going 0-3, Troller asked if he could be traded since he figured the team was not going to try very hard anymore
Ruiners management went ahead and found a trade for Week 5, so they kept him out of the W5 lineup since he was meant to be traded; however, the hosts vetoed the trade because they judged the compensation for Troller to be insufficient
Troller was about to be subbed back in, only to find out his teammate mncmt had played on literal day 0 - basically as soon as the week came out. He got PISSED and I don't think we'll be seeing him again this SPL

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[RAI] Aliss vs Nails [CRY] (his odds go down significantly if he continues bringing that washed up monobeam lax team ._.)
[SHA] Kiichikos vs spies [TYR]
[WOL] SMB vs SadisticNarwhal [TIG]
[RUI] hyogafodex vs Hayburner [BIG]
[CLA] rozes vs Serpi [SCO]
 
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