Probopass A- -> B+
Disagree
I'm not agree to say the meta isn't kind with probopass right now. The defensive probopass set works always very well. None of the mons you list except maybe poliwrath like to switch into Probopass with stories of toxic/earth power/volt switch/taunt. On the subject of the threats which probo, regardless hp, the threat has to run a set less effective than the standard one to be able to get rid of probopass which means the results is approximately the same if probo forces the opponent to play a set less threaten to be able to bypass it. The role of probopass is to compress different roles in only one slot, it's a frosttom switch-in able to put the SR, able to get rid of muk, put the pressure of defensive builds with taunt or in toxic annoying mons and can gain the momentum thanks to volt switch.
Torterra A+ -> S
Strongly Agree
Torterra is the best Pokémon in ZU actually. The defensive sets supports the team to an insane level, able to come on approximately every mon not running SE moves, especially on one of the more dangerous mon which is Lycanroc. Even with that, it can run Occa or Yache Berry to get rid of mons who thought be able to kill it. Its bulk is just insane, how many times do I bypass grumpig and kadabra just with a max hp Torterra ? None mon S+ to A- can switch to peacefully on its defensive set, you have to check every time if it runs toxic or not.
And I don't even talk about its offensive RP/SD set which is just a button click A to win against balanced teams. You just have to find the moment to set up which isn't very difficult thanks to the Torterra bulk and it's the end of the battle. This set is strong too against stall. It's a deathful set which destroys every unprepared team.
The support Torterra provides to a team and the dangerousity of its RP/SD set makes it the best Pokemon in ZU right now. Put it S
Vigoroth A+ -> S
Disagree
Without closing the eyes on the pressure Vigo makes in a battle and in teambuiling, I don't think it is a S worthy. In my opinion, Vigo is more an unhealthy mon than a definition of the metagame.
The reason why I think that is Vigoroth doesn't provide any support to a team. Remove Vigoroth and your team will be certainly less threating, will lack certainly of a wincondition but not less viable. When you add Vigoroth to a team, the teammates support Vigoroth, not the opposite. You need something to get rid of ghost types especially for the sub version, to come on poliwrath if you are running taunt, to get rid of stall if you run sub, to have a strong answer to fighting types, to do not let you sweep by lycanroc which set up pretty easily on both sets. The support required is far more important than to our two other S mons. It isn't as splashable as Torterra and Frosttom are, it needs a team build around its utilization to be deathful.
Roselia B -> B+
Agree ... And even A-
This mon is awesome, I didn't understand either why it dropped. It's one of the best answer to tank poli, it gives to a team an incredible support with spikes/toxic spikes which is annoying for plenty of teams right now. Get rid of Roselia is also pretty difficult, you have only few mons able to switch into and deal with it back. It likes a lot how the meta, the fighting resistance thanks to the poison type is particularly very useful.
Silvally-Fighting B- -> B/B+
Agree
I will be quick here but Silvally-Fighting is our second better Silvally form. If the classical Defog set offers a lot of utilities in pivoting, in getting rid of Vigo, in checking Dugtrio-Alola and Lycanroc with a bit of hp investment, in coming easily on the stealth rock, the SD three attacks is very threaten for balanced teams. It likes a lot too the departure of mushy.
Dusclops C- -> Higher
Agree (C- -> C+)
Dusclops is obviously a very good option to stall teams in being one of the few mons able to switch on choice band Bouffalant or Electivire. Stall becames a playstyle very correct and only that justifies fully a rise of dusclops. But even without in stall, Dusclops can have its utility. I stole the CM version to pink and that's pretty effective - without being awesome - against a lot of teams. It's a solid counter/check to a lot of dangerous threats such as ninjask, electivre, subvigy, torterra. A rise is justified.
My nominations :
Rises
B -> B+
Awesome mon. Its three attacks RP threats a lot of teams without grumpig, its Z-Gravity set is threaten as well but the best set for me stays the Resttalk set. Tank Regice has a bulk insane, able to take stuff such as Simipour Focus blast at +2, perfectly handles Frosttom moves and every special moves even SE. All I said was already true before but Regice becomes much stronger recently. New drops aren't affected much its viability (none of the new drops comes on boltbeam) but in the same time grass type such as torterra, roselia, leafeon, servine, silvally-grass and lurantis become all stronger for their ability to get rid of annoying stuff like poliwrath/pyukumuku which are both very common due to Lycanroc. Regice likes that a lot, especially since it threats too Poliwrath/Torterra and comes easily on missy which fits in lot of teams to its ability to deal with the two set of vigy. It's a mon very splashable in balanced and bulky offense, an answer to a lot of annoying stuff, always a good pick when you build a team, it deserves a rise for that.
B- -> B
B- is a bit severe for Lurantis. It suffers a lot for the comparaison with Servine which, even if you can find common points, isn't totally correct. I'm agree to say Lurantis is outclassed in its defog set by Servine but we have to keep an outlook on the other sets. I know a lot of you hate facing Lurantis when you battle your opponent. It is very understandable because it runs plenty of variants which makes very difficult to predict, it is a part of its strength but I woud like to focus especially on a set to make a clear difference with Servine. It's the superpower sets which are the more threating in my opinion because it makes Lurantis difficult to revenge kill. If I have a Servine in front of me, I'm not especially scared because I know I can deal with the scarf version and RK the set with defog with my lycanroc for example. This doesn't happen with Lurantis, you cannot kill it peacefully with your Z-Move if it does one superpower. The physical sets are too very customisable, you can run Resttalk, Knock off + Z-Aromatherapy or All out Attacker. As I said above, grass type are pretty effective too right now with the presence of a lot of water and rock types. Lurantis is more than a outclassed mon almost useless to play, it's a mon different to servine with its qualities and its flaws which is actually very effective against the meta. A rise is fully deserved too.
Drops
Purugly B+ -> B
We could believe that with the departure of Stoutland/Ursaring, it will make physical normal type better. That was a part of the true but Purugly doesn't benefict much for that. Stoutland and Ursaring were both strong wallbreaker, Purugly doesn't fill this void. Now when we're looking to the new drops, you regret a lot that Purugly doesn't learn good fighting move. Cannot pass Lycanroc + speed tie + steadfast, liepard is an issue because even if they don't have exactly the same role you'll never play both in a single team and liepard can TW, even if at the first outlook crustle could look a nice addition to purugly it's annoying to face it with stories of rock typing/weak armor, Dugtrio Alola, Poliwrath more present than never, can only pivot against torterra,... Purugly stays a decent mon in adapted teams but not a splashable threat.
Marowak B -> B-/C+
Torterra. It's terrible to say but when you're a wallbreaker totally unable to bypass torterra, your match-up versus the opposite team is biased. I could add that poliwrath is an issue, Torterra too, Koff of Liepard is annoying, Torterra too, Maro has trouble to pass tangela stall, Torterra too, why do you use Marowak in wallbreaking when you can play bouffalant band or toucannon who break both torterra/poli, Torterra, slow as hell even in ZU, Torterra, when is the last time did you see a Marowak team outside TR, Torterra, TR has plenty other options than Marowak, Torterra,...
Wishiwashi B -> B-/C+
Same reasonning than Marowak except you just have to swap Torterra by Poliwrath. Oh, and Marowak can be played outside TR, that's impossible with Wishiwashi.
Relicanth B -> C+/C
Torterra and Poliwrath. Relicanth finds its place almost only in rain and Armaldo is always a good pick instead of it. No much reasons to play Relicanth except for that.
B -> C
Liepard. Its only utility is in second rain setter.
B- -> C
It only works on offense to revenge kill Lycanroc... It's the only reason to use it, that's a tiny niche. Its Alola form is just better in the other situations. Oh and do I have to mention Torterra ?
C+ -> Lower
Poliwrath + Torterra + Liepard + Lurantis + Dugtrio Alola. That's the part of the list of the new mons/new mons strong in the meta and too the mons which give trouble to solrock. You can swap Solrock everytime to an other mon which does the job simply better. No much reasons to still play it.
Silvally-Dark C+ -> C/C-
Liepard
Lycanroc Midnight C -> Unranked
Lycanroc. The small other things it has over Lycanroc (better bulk, no guard) aren't sufficient to justify a rank. In the precedent meta, it could maybe benefict for the surprise effect and the lack of counters in the opposite team but right now everyone takes stuff like torterra, poliwrath, pyukumuku, RK in offense,...
C -> Unranked
It doesn't have a niche. Whatever team you made, you'll always find a better option to put instead of avalugg, even in stall (rapid spin is anyway arguably less good than defog in stall). According to the rest of the C rank which gets a small reason to be played, avalugg doesn't have one. Unranked it.
C- -> Uranked
Crustle + Lycanroc lead.
Other noms I made before and still actual
B -> B-
Armaldo isn't less good than before, I just think B- is more accurate for it, next to Sandslash. Arma is a soft check to Stout but weak to SR is bad so they are globally equivalent. Webs team are less seen than before too so rapid spin loses a bit of its utility.
B -> C+/C
Its Choice band set is meh. Dusknoir performs only in TR setter and isn't the best one either in this role. Basically it puts the TR and then suicide itself with Memento or Z-Memento and even if it is not bad at all in this function it's really a specific niche. Dusknoir is effective only in TR and absolutely not mandatory inside, B is unfortunately far too high for what it really does in the ZU Meta. That's too bad, I like a lot this mon.
+ Liepard
B -> B-
Noctowl requires a stupid level of support to be effective and a large number of turns. Its best set is certainly the Agility Work Up one but that's really difficult to set up. Even if they don't have exactly the same role, after some tests you will realize chatot specs in just better in the majority of the situations. There are not a lot of reasons to use still noctowl, especially since except soundproof users, they have also the same checks.
+ Lycanroc, Liepard (TW/encore), Duggy-Alola, Crustle
B- -> C+
Munchlax isn't less good than before but there is actually no much reasons to play it. As I said above, Mushy, Vigo, Muk are all very effective in the current meta and you will choose rather them like wincon than baby Snorlax. Munchlax is just outclassed for the moment, you gonna play it only if your team is very weak to fire and ice, that's all.
B- -> C+
Only effective in TR in Eruption abuser (the sr set is bad) and not mandatory inside. Camerupt is simply more a niche mon only effective with the right support than a good mon splashable in your team. It's not less good than before but has no many reasons to be played and can be generally substitute by an other breaker in tr teams.
C+ -> Unranked
I maybe missed something but what Illumise concretely does ? What's the point ? I don't really know
+ Liepard
C -> Unranked
Outclassed by Sandslash/Armaldo in spinner, by Camerupt in Eruption abuser under TR, by Magcargo (lol) in Shell Smash Abuser. Torkoal is useless, it has no utility, unrank it.
C- -> Unranked
Be immunised to a resisted type isn't enough to justify a rank. There is no reason to play it instead of Silvally-Water. Bye Lumy, we liked you... in 6gen.
C- -> Unranked
This mon tricks AV... Ummm did this strategy already work ? I don't think so. Unrank
