I think its absolutely worth using over AV, but Im on mobile and dont have a set on me nor a great way to paste it.
Naganadel was a quickban, which is usually handled exclusively by the council (ala marshadow ban) to ‘fix’ the metagame asap. It may be an overstepping of boundaries, but I’d rather not have to deal with marshadow or whatever for another week. Also, the metagame discussion thread basically became a Naganadel ban discussion thread lolSimple question, but I'm curious as to the response. Why post official procedures for Banning/Suspect testing if you're not going to use them?
Or rather, why did you skip this portion
I realize that most of the members of the council felt the same way in regards to the Nagandel ban, but I (and maybe others) don't see why that would mean you should handle it any differently than you previously said you would.
The same thing goes for suspect tests on Lando-T and Toxapex, there is clearly enough chatter behind the topic.
It says "If there is enough demand." It doesn't say anything about what the majority of the council feels, but unfortunately that has been used by many as a reply to excuse it away.
Ultimately I'd like to culminate all that with an opinion. I believe the council has been overstepping the boundaries it has set for itself and certain members actively stifle opposing discussion. I would like to address these concerns publically, so that others who may feel the same way can voice their opinions as well. (Without a fear of being pilled on)
Anyway, that's all. Merely curious if the reported increase in transparency will be something that actually occurs.
Simple question, but I'm curious as to the response. Why post official procedures for Banning/Suspect testing if you're not going to use them?
Or rather, why did you skip this portion
I realize that most of the members of the council felt the same way in regards to the Nagandel ban, but I (and maybe others) don't see why that would mean you should handle it any differently than you previously said you would.
The same thing goes for suspect tests on Lando-T and Toxapex, there is clearly enough chatter behind the topic.
It says "If there is enough demand." It doesn't say anything about what the majority of the council feels, but unfortunately that has been used by many as a reply to excuse it away.
Ultimately I'd like to culminate all that with an opinion. I believe the council has been overstepping the boundaries it has set for itself and certain members actively stifle opposing discussion. I would like to address these concerns publically, so that others who may feel the same way can voice their opinions as well. (Without a fear of being pilled on)
Anyway, that's all. Merely curious if the reported increase in transparency will be something that actually occurs.
It wasn’t a shot at the pro ban group, I was just stating that it consists mostly of ladder players while the OU council and established tournament players are against a ban. If it sounded like an insult, it wasn’t, it was just me saying that the pro ban group typically consists of less seasoned players (not saying they all are). And there’s been plenty of valid arguments brought up for a ban, such as movepool, bulk+power, sweeping capability, unpredictableness, utility, etc but there are plenty of valid counter arguments (such as low speed tier + exploitable weaknesses making it easy for offense to check, solid defensive counterplay in Pokémon such as cele, tang, etc depending on the set). While I’m all for discussion it typically dissolved into bashing the council/bashing the pro-ban group and is overall really toxic, hence why a suspect discussion thread doesn’t really exist. If you want more info for why there’s no Lando suspect I’d recommend PMing a council member.
AV Bulu is simply the superior pick in the current metagame. AV still has access to recovery between Horn Leech and Grassy Terrain, while its overall utility is significantly higher than SubSeed. Running AV instead of SubSeed opens up room for more effective offensive options, namely a more powerful stab in Wood Hammer and the ability to deal with some of its defensive answers better in Nature's Madness. The special bulk afforded by AV makes Bulu a much more reliable answer to threats it checks like Specs Koko and Ash Gren while opening up the ability to check some threats that are out of reach for non-AV, such as Mega Diancie and Scarf Lele. With AV, you're getting more offensive and defensive utility out of Bulu than SubSeed.
Hawlucha with Electric Seed immediately jumps out for more terrain synergy and to provide that physical presence and speed. Then it depends if you wanna go HO or more balanced. A reliable setter would be necessary either way,
I think I'll add Hawlucha. Seems to pair very well. Thanks for the help, I have a few ideas of my own now.
I took "notable" to mean "on the viability ranking", and here are the results:
Some of them aren't Gyro targets though: TR Magearna gets hit a bit harder by Earthquake while M-Sableye, Tangrowth, Amoonguss, Reuniclus (both) and Shuckle all get hit significantly harder by Stone Edge / CC.
Sticky Web / Liquidation / Toxic / Magic Coat or filler with Focus Sash. Iirc it’s roughly Adamant with 104 HP / 252 Atk / 152 Spe, but don’t quote me on that.
That's weird, iirc all hidden powers default to max ivs now on ps, maybe try to maximize the ivs after giving a mon hp fire, I don't know why it doesn't default to max for you but that could fix it
I think I might have figured it out, it seems to give me 30 with Diancie only when I import the set, not choosing HP fire manually. So if I set the IV's to 31 manually and don't touch the import, they stay 31. I've tried it with latios also but his IVs are 31 no matter what, so I don't know what's up. This only happens on mobile and I haven't tried it on computer, so it might just be the mobile version being wierd, or possibly just mine.
Defense, but currently, offensive sets are slightly better and offer great utility.
