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-Obtainable at level 5? check.
-First stage evolution? check.
Yes, once the DLC is released and Archaludon is obtainable in SV, Duraludon will become legal in LC. Of course, it is getting pre-emptively banned like basculin and stantler, but if the LC council went MIA for several months, it could happen.
DM on discord to discuss (megatyler30) to discuss, I've talked to Coco about this previously
glad to hear that you didn’t get lucked out of the game!
like Eric said above, nobody has really been abusing these abilities here in LC. it’s really likely that if they got popular and proved to be too powerful or annoying, they would get the boot.
How would one build around Pawniard these days?
It'd generally be a Spikestack team or an offense with Swords Dance Tera Fairy/Flying Pawniard, as it lacks the natural breaking and utility option in Knock Off that previously made it top tier as a support pokemon.
Is Trick Room a viable playstyle (or was it ever in the past)?
it hasnt really been a viable pick in any generation of lc ever afaik. while some theoretical viable trick room pokemon like craniados, etc may be pretty good with it, its just a hard playstyle to make work. mienfoo fake out stalls trick room turns, and clicking trick room does have an oppurtunity cost alongside most trick room pokemon just not be going considered good
I want to elaborate on this by saying that historically there's only ever been 1 actually good Trick Room mon, being Otr Spritzee in gen 7 that could Nasty Plot + Trick Room to sweep lategame. There was also at some point a viable Trick Room team for gen 7 lc, but it is long gone as it relied on currently banned pokemon like Trapinch. Otr Spritzee is, however, still relevant, and was used in the last LCPL by Fragments .
It's most likely because Little Cup is already a fan-made concept (kinda, it was in Pokemon Stadium, which is where the idea originates, but it is only in the stadium games, nothing mainline even references it I believe) so creating a subset genre of a subset genre is a bit.... difficult to try to get people into.
It could be an interesting idea, but it's probably not going to happen, though if you start campaining for it, all the power to you.
to be fair there already is doubles lc, its just not 4 vs 4 but 6 vs 6. that is the most liked format of the 2, and even then its pretty unpopular in the grand scheme of things.
also how would vgc lc work, is it lv 5 or lv 50? when tpci made lc tournaments, they were at lv 50 bc vgc is at 50, but lc is not lc if it isnt at lv 5 so
also how would vgc lc work, is it lv 5 or lv 50? when tpci made lc tournaments, they were at lv 50 bc vgc is at 50, but lc is not lc if it isnt at lv 5 so
Little Cup mons (lv 5) with VGC rules.
Has a 4v4 little cup ever been done in its own format before with lv 5 mons?
Has Nasty Plot Gastly ever been used
This is the first generation where Gastly has had access to Nasty Plot in LC since it was banned in Gen 8, but it was quite common earlier in the meta as a sort of Misdreavus replacement. Here are two teams from my builder that made use of it as an example (ignore the tera types they broke for some reason)
https://pokepast.es/b8609a187806c107
https://pokepast.es/61f2ac03848a17a0
Nasty Plot might seem like a good option on gastly, as it often will force the opponent out. However, by just clicking a damaging move or will-o-wisp, gastly often is able to break down it's checks just fine without need of setup. This means you actually make progress more often if you don't click nasty plot. This is important, as gastly is often checked offensively with faster mons, which means that it might just get forced out even after setting up. There is of course some upside to the increased power, but it is often not worth the trouble.
it was used successfully used in lpl (discord side tour) to win a crucial endgame! heres the link: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9lc-2091466890-tf4jk7am2vnti2gkpcc2ltz8eczdwn5pw
honestly it might have a niche, its definitely not the worst thing ever, but i find it p hard to believe its better than shellder, as shells coverage hits quite literally everything + doesnt risk missing hydro