The way I understand it is Curse has always worked is it just checks your current type when it executes. If you turn Ghost before it goes off, it does the Nail and will target the opponent as per usual; in a double it will target randomly.
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Maranga Berry seems to be not able to use at least in Gen 9 Doubles OU
I was building a team for that tier, and PS! didnt let me use the Maranga Berry due the following reasons:
I did a little research, and the Marange Berry seems to be obtainable in Scarlet and Violet as a reward on Tera Raids and Gym Challenge reruns.
Heres the link which i got this information:
https://gameriv.com/pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-all-berries/
Theres even an in-game description for the berry, but i dont own the game so, If anyone can corroborate that this information is true, it would be appreciated.
I was building a team for that tier, and PS! didnt let me use the Maranga Berry due the following reasons:
I did a little research, and the Marange Berry seems to be obtainable in Scarlet and Violet as a reward on Tera Raids and Gym Challenge reruns.
Heres the link which i got this information:
https://gameriv.com/pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-all-berries/
Theres even an in-game description for the berry, but i dont own the game so, If anyone can corroborate that this information is true, it would be appreciated.
Well I definitely didn't get a Maranga Berry for doing the gym challenge "rerun"; that's a post game thing and you don't really get anything for that (beyond unlocking the Academy Ace Tourney)
I glanced through the raid tables on serebii (who doesnt have the berry in his item list either) and I don't see it there, either.
Serebii also didn't have Starf Berry listed as a possible reward for over a week after I found it myself ingame, so it's very possible that Maranga is obtainable and Serebii's sources simply haven't found it themselves yet.
OK so this got me to look up what the Starf Berry was tied too and I did not realize that the "reruns" were the literal challenges, with the ESP challenge being the one that gives you berries. So I'm learning new things today!
Thanks for testing this in-game! :) Could you clarify what you mean by "opposing side, even if attacking one's teammate"? Do you mean that in a double battle, attacking your teammate will put up spikes on the targets side of the field (i.e the user's side when attacking a teammate) or always on the side of the other player?
Latter, it works the same as Toxic Debris.
Not sure if this is already known, but do Defiant/Competitive still activate on a Pokemon holding a Clear Amulet?
Building on the Pixilate Tera conversation before, will a Tera Normal Sylveon still have Fairy type Tera Blast?
Also, for abilities that only trigger once (Intrepid Sword, Dauntless Shield, maybe Battle Bond?) what happens if a Transform Pokémon Transforms into a Pokémon holding that ability more than once? Like if a ditto transforms into a Zacian, switches out, then switches back in and transforms into Zacian again. Does the ability proc both times?
Same question with copying the ability via Role Play, Skill Swap, Doodle - if you switch out to reset the ability and then copy it again, will it still proc?
What happens if you currently have Intrepid Sword and you Skill Swap with another Intrepid Sword pokemon? Does the new Intrepid Sword proc?
How does Doodle interact with copying the same ability?
Also, for abilities that only trigger once (Intrepid Sword, Dauntless Shield, maybe Battle Bond?) what happens if a Transform Pokémon Transforms into a Pokémon holding that ability more than once? Like if a ditto transforms into a Zacian, switches out, then switches back in and transforms into Zacian again. Does the ability proc both times?
Same question with copying the ability via Role Play, Skill Swap, Doodle - if you switch out to reset the ability and then copy it again, will it still proc?
What happens if you currently have Intrepid Sword and you Skill Swap with another Intrepid Sword pokemon? Does the new Intrepid Sword proc?
How does Doodle interact with copying the same ability?
Can Battle Bond be hacked on other Pokémon and will it work?
I know there probably have been posts about this but to just confirm something else about Rage Fist...
If Ditto switches in and Transforms into an Annihilape with a Rage Fist, currently at the BP of 100.
If Ditto would now get hurt, would Ditto's Rage Fist go up to 150 BP?
Do Hits taken prior to the Transformation count towards the BP strength?
I also assume that if Annihilape takes damage from Ditto's attack (while transformed into Annihilape), only Annihilape's Rage Fist increases in strength
Also, what if a mon uses Mimic to call Rage Fist?
Does it copy Annihilape's Rage Fist BP and counts the times taken from there or does it copy Rage Fists BP of 50 only and then counts from there?
If Ditto switches in and Transforms into an Annihilape with a Rage Fist, currently at the BP of 100.
If Ditto would now get hurt, would Ditto's Rage Fist go up to 150 BP?
Do Hits taken prior to the Transformation count towards the BP strength?
I also assume that if Annihilape takes damage from Ditto's attack (while transformed into Annihilape), only Annihilape's Rage Fist increases in strength
Also, what if a mon uses Mimic to call Rage Fist?
Does it copy Annihilape's Rage Fist BP and counts the times taken from there or does it copy Rage Fists BP of 50 only and then counts from there?
Hey wsu. I just wanted to ask about Heal Bell Blissey/Chansey since it seems smth changed recently but I can't find info about it here in forums. So a few days ago you were able to use Heal Bell on these mons without issue, but now teambuilder says
Heal Bell also got this added when you do dt: Unobtainable in Gen 9
Finally, the /learn command shows this
Which also changed, since a while ago it would show an extra row with an * and saying that the move was obtainable via egg moves. We've been talking a fair bit about it in help room, and moreso in the ou room. Would be nice to have some clarification if the changed occurred due to smth new being found out.
Heal Bell also got this added when you do dt: Unobtainable in Gen 9
Finally, the /learn command shows this
Which also changed, since a while ago it would show an extra row with an * and saying that the move was obtainable via egg moves. We've been talking a fair bit about it in help room, and moreso in the ou room. Would be nice to have some clarification if the changed occurred due to smth new being found out.
The problem is while Heal Bell is in the game, and while it is an Egg Move for Blissey still, there's nobody to pass the move from
The only pokemon that learn the move naturally aren't in the game yet and it's also not a TM.
I see. We actually noticed this very early on into the generation, and someone brought up that (I am really sorry if this is not true as Idk anything about the games) that some egg moves could now be obtained via tera raids. We kinda assumed that was the reason and just moved on. I am guessing this info is thus wrong(?)
Following it up, are there any more such examples of this happening?
As far as I know this is the only example of this problem as all other egg moves have at least 1 pokemon that learn them naturally.
It's possible that pokemon introduced with the DLC will retain the Heal Bell move, and thus Blissey line will be able to learn it again regularly. Or simply via Home compatibility if movesets aren't reset as at that point breeding any gen 8- Blissey who knows the egg move will produce a Happiny with it as well or just pass it to a gen 9 one.
As of now however there's no way to legally obtain Heal Bell on them.
Even with the ability to pass egg moves in SV without regard for egg groups, there are multiple moves that currently have no donor.
Mattyoukhana_ searched for all the Egg Moves that aren't present in any learnsets in the personal data [1][2], then looked for these moves to be present on any existing encounters in game from:
- fixed encounters
- stock raids
- event raids
- static encounters
- mystery gifts
- wilds (regular level up moves)
- NPC gifts
We believe this is the accurate list for unavailable moves at this time.
BUG STATUS: CONFIRMED - LEGALITY (DaWoblefet)
A list of relevant egg moves was posted in the bug reports thread.
Oh, I was close enough, the only other non-arceuslegends moves tecnically unobtainable in any way without hacking would be Simple Beam and Cosmic Power then.
Nope, Tera Blast is Normal-type.
The ability will only proc the first time (sorry for the lower quality videos for the next few).
It did not proc again after being Role Played, switched out, and Role Played again.
The new Intrepid Sword does not proc.
But it failed!
Hi. A few more results.
Theia beat me to some of these, particularly the Intrepid Sword mechanics since I don't think I've shown anything extra on those, but posting that one anyway for the sake of completeness since it was already done uploading.
Tera Normal Pixilate Sylveon has a Normal-type Tera Blast. Furthermore, I've confirmed that the damage is seemingly unaffected by using two otherwise identical Tera Normal Slyveon with Cute Charm / Pixilate.
Abilities that only trigger once, such as Intrepid Sword, only work once per battle per Pokemon, even with mechanics like Transform and Skill Swap. Skill Swapping two Intrepid Sword users does nothing, which is shown in the same video.
Battle Bond cannot be Skill Swapped or Role Played. If Battle Bond is hacked on another Pokemon, then it does nothing in battle. I don't know whether this has already been shown, but since someone asked to me to test it elsewhere, I'll also confirm that Battle Bond boosts do not stay after switching out and back in, and that Battle Bond only works once per battle. As a bonus, the same footage also shows Protean working every switch-in because someone directly asked me to confirm that mechanic.
Theia beat me to some of these, particularly the Intrepid Sword mechanics since I don't think I've shown anything extra on those, but posting that one anyway for the sake of completeness since it was already done uploading.
Tera Normal Pixilate Sylveon has a Normal-type Tera Blast. Furthermore, I've confirmed that the damage is seemingly unaffected by using two otherwise identical Tera Normal Slyveon with Cute Charm / Pixilate.
Abilities that only trigger once, such as Intrepid Sword, only work once per battle per Pokemon, even with mechanics like Transform and Skill Swap. Skill Swapping two Intrepid Sword users does nothing, which is shown in the same video.
Battle Bond cannot be Skill Swapped or Role Played. If Battle Bond is hacked on another Pokemon, then it does nothing in battle. I don't know whether this has already been shown, but since someone asked to me to test it elsewhere, I'll also confirm that Battle Bond boosts do not stay after switching out and back in, and that Battle Bond only works once per battle. As a bonus, the same footage also shows Protean working every switch-in because someone directly asked me to confirm that mechanic.
Watched a stream and saw a Dondozo use Order Up against a mon using Protect. The Stat Boost effect still happened even though the attack failed against the Protect.
Would it still work if used against a fairy type?
Can someone explain or verify this? Is there any way in which the stats are calculated differently in this gen?
That reminds me - exactly when did Patch 1.1.0 go live, and did it edit Great Tusk's base stats like Patch 1.0.1 edited Chien-Pao's?