NOC Rise of Team Galactic Mafia - OVER, Mafia Win

HydrogenHydreigon said:
Wait ok i just had an epiphany

Alice's vote tied it yesterday, preventing.. ag, i think it was from getting voted out

Unless the vig is town or something, maf!alice would know ag dying would result in three town deaths, so it doesnt make sense for maf!alice to do that unless she thinks like 3v1 instead of 2v1 is optimal..
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3v1 instead of 2v1 is literally more optimal for scum though, you have a pool of 3 mislynches instead of 2 that can win you the game
 
Neon was online and could have decided to vote, instead he didn't vote like Celever and HH.

I don't understand how people choose to not vote when there are 6 players left :blobsad:
 
I don’t think my tinfoil on Alice being lost wolf is as realistic rn as scum in HH/Neon atp. Between the two, I don’t think OS BPV on neon makes sense if scum has an extra kill, and so far his behaviour seems more towny so I’m tilted to leaning towards lynching HH today, but I’ll probably hold it off for a while because that’s just optimal play and I am a notorious VOLO choker
 
Vote Count 1.6 (Final)
StupidFlandrs48 (5) - Alice Kazumi, Lechen, Dead by Daylight, CrreamyKitty, Aura Guardian
Alice Kazumi (1) - StupidFlandrs48
HydrogenHydreigon (1) - saberslasher11
saberslasher11 (1) - bluedoom

no lynch (1) - JALMONT

not voting: HydrogenHydreigon, NightEmerald, ImaginaryNeon, Ehmcee, pulsar512b, Celever

Vote Count 2.2

NightEmerald (8) - pulsar512b, CrreamyKitty, Alice Kazumi, Celever, saberslasher11, HydrogenHydreigon, Dead by Daylight, Lechen
saberslasher11 (1) - JALMONT

not voting(5): NightEmerald, ImaginaryNeon, Ehmcee, bluedoom, Aura Guardian

With 12 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.


Vote Count 3.1 (Final)

Dead by Daylight (7) - bluedoom, Lechen, CrreamyKitty, Ehmcee, Dead by Daylight, Celever, HydrogenHydreigon
saberslasher11 (1) - ImaginaryNeon
Celever (1) Aura Guardian

not voting (3): pulsar512b, Alice Kazumi, saberslasher11

VC 4.2 Final

With 9 playes alive, 5 votes are required to lynch

saberslasher11(4): ImaginaryNeon, Celever, Lechen, Bluedoom
CrreamyKitty(2): Alice Kazumi, AuraGuardian
celever(1): saberslasher11
ImaginaryNeon(1): CrreamyKitty

Not Voting (1): HydrogenHydreigon

With 8 players alive it takes 5 to lynch

Votecount 5.2 Final

Lechen(4): Celever, CrreamyKitty, Alice Kazumi, Aura Guardian, Lechen

Not Voting(3): bluedoom, HydrogenHydreigon, ImaginaryNeon

VC 6.1 Final

Aura Guardian(1): CrreamyKitty
HydrogenHydreigon(1): Alice Kazumi
CrreamyKitty(1): Aura Guardian

Not voting(3): Celever, HydrogenHydreigon, ImaginaryNeon
 
So far HH chose to adopt a passive stance on D1 and not vote while sheeping early celever read on both flandrs and me being townies.
D2-D3 he just followed the cop, nothing wrong with it but those are the only stances he has voted.
Not voting on D5 can be understandeable due to risk of hammer but D4 is mostly the same that D1.
D6 I just don't get it.

Neon on the other hand didn't vote nor I remember a strong opinion from him during D1.
D2-D3 are understandeable due to the risk of hammer.
D4 voting saber is not crazy.
D5 is understandeable again.
D6 same as hydro, I don't get it.
 
Alice Kazumi said:
So far HH chose to adopt a passive stance on D1 and not vote while sheeping early celever read on both flandrs and me being townies.
D2-D3 he just followed the cop, nothing wrong with it but those are the only stances he has voted.
Not voting on D5 can be understandeable due to risk of hammer but D4 is mostly the same that D1.
D6 I just don't get it.

Neon on the other hand didn't vote nor I remember a strong opinion from him during D1.
D2-D3 are understandeable due to the risk of hammer.
D4 voting saber is not crazy.
D5 is understandeable again.
D6 same as hydro, I don't get it.
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D6 I genuinely forgot to vote and also D2 they hammered while I was playing Fortnite
 
Oh yeah neon was the third to vote me during d1 then switched off the vote after people were not pushing me.
ImaginaryNeon said:
D6 I genuinely forgot to vote and also D2 they hammered while I was playing Fortnite
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Your D2, D3, D4, D5 votes/no votes are fine
HH D2, D3 and D5 are fine as well.

What worries me is both of your D1, HH D4 and both of your D6...
 
tbh I think neon not being on Flandrs or Lechen is a point in favour of him being town here, scum with TMI and seeing that much against their partner is more likely to try and bus knowing their mate is going down than trying to come up with a world where they’re town that, A) they know is false, and B) makes them look worse on paper if you look at it with level 1 thinking
 
CrreamyKitty said:
tbh I think neon not being on Flandrs or Lechen is a point in favour of him being town here, scum with TMI and seeing that much against their partner is more likely to try and bus knowing their mate is going down than trying to come up with a world where they’re town that, A) they know is false, and B) makes them look worse on paper if you look at it with level 1 thinking
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Neither of them were on flandrs or lechen
 
CrreamyKitty said:
Still don’t think not voting either of them really makes sense to use against him though, from a scum POV it makes a lot of sense to not defend either of them
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I'm saying not voting lechen is fine because of risk of hammer. The problem is listed here.
Alice Kazumi said:
Oh yeah neon was the third to vote me during d1 then switched off the vote after people were not pushing me.

Your D2, D3, D4, D5 votes/no votes are fine
HH D2, D3 and D5 are fine as well.

What worries me is both of your D1, HH D4 and both of your D6...
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HydrogenHydreigon said:
..a roleblock is like, significantly weaker than an alignment cop
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I mean, to be fair, all of the other claimed or town-flipped roles either have some sort of limit/restriction (My 1x BPV, Jalmont's 2x self-redirect, Ehmcee's even-night Watcher, pulsar's 2x cop, Celever's randomized JOAT, saber's delayed investigator, etc.), actively hinder the player (Emerald's Miller), or inherently does nothing in terms of pure mechanical interactions during the night and whatnot (Hydro's VT claim, Alice's N claim).
AngryPidgeon said:
ImaginaryNeon
HydrogenHydreigon
CrreamyKitty
Alice Kazumi

StupidFlandrs48, Saturn, Mafia Jack-of-all-Trades voted out Day 1.
NightEmerald, Team Galactic Defector, Town Miller voted out Day 2.
JALMONT, Crasher Wake, Town 2-shot Self-Redirector killed Night 2.
Dead by Daylight, Cyrus, Mafia Godfather voted out Day 3.
Ehmcee, Gardenia, Town Invisible Even-Night Watcher killed Night 3.
pulsar512b, Lucian, Town 2-shot Cop killed Night 3.
saberslasher11, Frontier Tycoon Palmer, Town Delayed Investigator voted out Day 4.
Lechen, Mars, Mafia 1-shot Limited Redirector voted out Day 5.
bluedoom, Maylene, Town Even-Night Rolecop killed Night 5.
Aura Guardian, Roark, Town 1-shot Jailkeeper killed Night 6.
Celever, Factory Head Thorton, Town Randomied Jack-of-all-Trades killed Night 6.
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(And yes, I did go through and fix a bunch of the formatting of the dead section because I like being able to actually fucking see the text, thank you very much.)
 
HH D4 was weird. He said that he thinks Saber is town and one of CK/AG is scum. He doesn't help in the CK push and ask for flashwagon? He doesn't defend saber either there. Pretty inconsistent progression.
 
Alice Kazumi said:
So ImaginaryNeon for me to be last mafia I would have to do the following things:
- Mention characters outside the sinnoh games, tell everyone that there is a lost mafia and buss my teammate on D1 with no communication.
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My tinfoil wasn't around that, it was around the hypothetical of you (with lost Ghetsis role) claiming N with info on Ghetsis' existence for town cred and then just so happening to land on core scum without knowing.
 
ImaginaryNeon said:
My tinfoil wasn't around that, it was around the hypothetical of you (with lost Ghetsis role) claiming N with info on Ghetsis' existence for town cred and then just so happening to land on core scum without knowing.
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Plus, one of the easier ways to play as a Lost role (Which I would know, seeing as I have experience with doing so) is to just play as if you were Town, because of how Lost roles (by virtue of being, y'know, lost) are uninformed, just like the actual town.
 
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