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That's reddit, not here. Local events are not region locked this generation and can be claimed on all NA/EU/JPN 3DS and carts, so injected local events would be a hacked Wondercard and a "legal" Pokemon so long as the Pokemon itself is not edited.

Not that I personally agree with injected Wondercards being allowed to be traded, but they are, so long as it's stated. Here.
I know it. In my opinion these Pokémon are hacked 'cause their PIDs are static. I think they should have a dynamic PID, so these Wondercards don't behave as the originals. You know what i'm saying.
 
Legitimate means you took your ass to the event, went into the establishment (or got it via wi-fi) and obtained the Wondercard yourself and sat there and SR'd it by yourself.


You used a 3rd party device to obtain and inject the Wondercard. That doesn't suddenly make you sitting there and SRing a Pokemon 'legitimate'. The Pokemon is legal to be traded here so long as you state it and it's legal to battle with by site rules.

Your own signature says -



You should know what it means by now.
Okay, I think I get it now; if I actually took the time to go to Japan and get the Diancie Wonder Card, it would be 100% legitimate. But since I used Powersave to acquire it, it's... just legal. Thanks.

One more question: if I used Powersave to catch Xerneas over & over again, or get more Celebi without paying $5 each, are those considered legit?
 
Okay, I think I get it now; if I actually took the time to go to Japan and get the Diancie Wonder Card, it would be 100% legitimate. But since I used Powersave to acquire it, it's... just legal. Thanks.

One more question: if I used Powersave to catch Xerneas over & over again, or get more Celebi without paying $5 each, are those considered legit?
That's just abusing save backups, which still needs to be stated. Kind of like the rebattle code (that we don't have this gen).

As for Celebi, that's a timed event and it already ended so unless you had a save with it obtained from bank and sitting in Pokemon Link you're SOL.
 
That's just abusing save backups, which still needs to be stated. Kind of like the rebattle code (that we don't have this gen).

So, they're just legal?
As for Celebi, that's a timed event and it already ended so unless you had a save with it obtained from bank and sitting in Pokemon Link you're SOL.
No, it's still going until September 30. When my pre-owned game bricked, I actually made a new account on my other 3DS & paid $5 just so I could get more again on my X game. It's the 30 day trial that ended.
 
So, they're just legal?

No, it's still going until September 30. When my pre-owned game bricked, I actually made a new account on my other 3DS & paid $5 just so I could get more again on my X game.
I don't do time correctly, but yeah, that.

The rest still applies and they're legal, yes, but that's a gray area and I'm not going to sit here and go over semantics.

[They can be traded so long as you state it.]
 
I know it. In my opinion these Pokémon are hacked 'cause their PIDs are static. I think they should have a dynamic PID, so these Wondercards don't behave as the originals. You know what i'm saying.

If this is true then why do we allow them to be traded here? I think the forum should be cleansed of them.
 
If this is true then why do we allow them to be traded here? I think the forum should be cleansed of them.
If that were true then we'd have to cleanse all static PID events, that's his opinion on the matter.

Which includes a lot of previous gen events.

This thread is for checking and confirming hacks, not for debating legality of what should be allowed to be traded on the site.
 
If that were true then we'd have to cleanse all static PID events, that's his opinion on the matter.

Which includes a lot of previous gen events.

We can't set parameters on this gen? Why allow gen 6 static PID events if they are so easily accessible? I don't see the people trading them actually taking the time to find out if they are power saved or listing that they are. They're cheap.
 
We can't set parameters on this gen? Why allow gen 6 static PID events if they are so easily accessible? I don't see the people trading them actually taking the time to find out if they are power saved or listing that they are. They're cheap.
Powersaves WCs have static PID, only because nobody can extract the original WC from the original game's .sav now. For example: PP.org WCs have random PIDs.
In the old gens, they are able to extract original WCs from the games.
 
Powersaves WCs have static PID, only because nobody can extract the original WC from the original game's .sav now. For example: PP.org WCs have random PIDs.
In the old gens, they are able to extract original WCs from the games.

So doesn't that solidify the anti-power saved wonder card argument?

These events reach us through Japanese players anyway. It's likely to reach many smogon users. Why kill the excitement with these cheap powersaved pokemon?
 
Powersaves WCs have static PID, only because nobody can extract the original WC from the original game's .sav now. For example: PP.org WCs have random PIDs.
In the old gens, they are able to extract original WCs from the games.
That's very interesting if it's true; I don't have the means to verify it myself. Heh... so much amusement potential here.
 
Powersaves WCs have static PID, only because nobody can extract the original WC from the original game's .sav now. For example: PP.org WCs have random PIDs.
In the old gens, they are able to extract original WCs from the games.
Wondercards can be extracted from the game. I extracted the GAME Charizard event. :)
That's very interesting if it's true; I don't have the means to verify it myself. Heh... so much amusement potential here.
Just checked this:
• Inject Diancie wondercard.
• Backup Save [A].
• Receive Diancie #1, store on Bank.
• Revert to Save [A].
• Collect Diancie #1 from Bank.
• Receive Diancie #2.
• Check PIDs.
Their PIDs differed; [64F633B1] and [4BF0E98C] to be precise.
[Also tested injecting the wonder card two different times. Both PIDs were different then too.]
 
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Wondercards can be extracted from the game.

Just checked this:
• Inject Diancie wondercard.
• Backup Save [A].
• Receive Diancie #1, store on Bank.
• Revert to Save [A].
• Collect Diancie #1 from Bank.
• Receive Diancie #2.
• Check PIDs.
Their PIDs differed; [64F633B1] and [4BF0E98C] to be precise.
Well if the IVs & natures are different, of course the PIDs will be different.
 
Wondercards can be extracted from the game.

Just checked this:
• Inject Diancie wondercard.
• Backup Save [A].
• Receive Diancie #1, store on Bank.
• Revert to Save [A].
• Collect Diancie #1 from Bank.
• Receive Diancie #2.
• Check PIDs.
Their PIDs differed; [64F633B1] and [4BF0E98C] to be precise.
I heard this on PP.org but i don't think that these Wondercards can be insert into the games. Wondercards from Powersaves are fake. So.. you have just sand in your hands right now. You know what i'm talking about.
 
I heard this on PP.org but i don't think that these Wondercards can be insert into the games. Wondercards from Powersaves are fake. So.. you have just sand in your hands right now. You know what i'm talking about.
You keep saying you "heard this from-" have you ever checked yourself?

Wondercards can be inserted into the game, just like other gens can (as well as other things).
 
You keep saying you "heard this from-" have you ever checked yourself?

Wondercards can be inserted into the game, just like other gens can (as well as other things).
Yes i did. However we can't insert original WCs into the games with Powersaves.
 
Legal, but Showdown has no policies on trading hacked Pokemon, so *shrugs*.

Here is a link to all the people banned for trading hacks on showdown.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvygZBLXTtZZdFFfZ3hhVUplZm5MSGljTTJLQmJScEE#gid=0

On a side note, if Unowninator's Diancie becomes Illegal to trade on this forum, please message me. I'm pretty sure AfroThunderRule hacks his wonder cards too, and this hasn't come up before... weird. I feel kind of dirty. *leaves to reset Xerneas legitimately.*
 
Here is a link to all the people banned for trading hacks on showdown.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvygZBLXTtZZdFFfZ3hhVUplZm5MSGljTTJLQmJScEE#gid=0

On a side note, if Unowninator's Diancie becomes Illegal to trade on this forum, please message me. I'm pretty sure AfroThunderRule hacks his wonder cards too, and this hasn't come up before... weird. I feel kind of dirty. *leaves to reset Xerneas legitimately.*
Please let me know too so I can remove it from my trade-bait; I don't want to get blacklisted.
 
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