Oh on Bisharp I recommend Life Orb > Black Glasses. I know it makes him weaker but +30% damage to everything vs +20% damage to Dark moves is better. Also helps you revenge kill bulkier fairies too.
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3/4 of Bisharps moves are dark type and having an item boost dark type moves would be better than Life Orb taking 10% each attack.
Yes though Bisharp's main purpose is Fairy killing. Also, the Dark Type Moves are also boosted 10% more.
Another item you could run is Assault Vest on Bisharp, since he's going to be taking Dracos and attacks from psychic types like Starmie and Latios/Latias. This will also help Bisharp take a Hyper Voice / Moonblast from Mega Gardevoir, Sylveon, Mega Diancie and Clefable. Most of the time it'll let you avoid being 1HKO'd by most super effective special attacks.
252 SpA Mega Diancie Earth Power vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 200-236 (60.6 - 71.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Diancie Earth Power vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 300-354 (90.9 - 107.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Mega Diancie Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 237-279 (71.8 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Diancie Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 159-187 (48.1 - 56.6%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 196-232 (59.3 - 70.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 295-348 (89.3 - 105.4%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 127-151 (38.4 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 85-102 (25.7 - 30.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Mega Diancie Earth Power vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 300-354 (90.9 - 107.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Mega Diancie Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 237-279 (71.8 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Mega Diancie Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 159-187 (48.1 - 56.6%) -- 88.7% chance to 2HKO
232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 196-232 (59.3 - 70.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
232 SpA Pixilate Mega Gardevoir Hyper Voice vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 295-348 (89.3 - 105.4%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Bisharp: 127-151 (38.4 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Clefable Moonblast vs. 236 HP / 20 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 85-102 (25.7 - 30.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Also...
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 123-146 (37.2 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 185-218 (56 - 66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Hidden Power Fire vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 153-182 (46.3 - 55.1%) -- 66.8% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Hidden Power Fire vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 229-270 (69.3 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
184 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 104-122 (31.5 - 36.9%) -- 79.3% chance to 3HKO
184 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 156-183 (47.2 - 55.4%) -- 77% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 175-207 (53 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 261-308 (79 - 93.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I completely agree with Assault Vest. These calcs are amazing, even game changing!
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 123-146 (37.2 - 44.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 185-218 (56 - 66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Hidden Power Fire vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 153-182 (46.3 - 55.1%) -- 66.8% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Latios Hidden Power Fire vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 229-270 (69.3 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
184 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 104-122 (31.5 - 36.9%) -- 79.3% chance to 3HKO
184 SpA Life Orb Latias Draco Meteor vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 156-183 (47.2 - 55.4%) -- 77% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Bisharp: 175-207 (53 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Starmie Hydro Pump vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 261-308 (79 - 93.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I completely agree with Assault Vest. These calcs are amazing, even game changing!
as i've said, i was considering changing gyarados to mega scizor, but i didn't know for sure, but you've confirmed for me that it wouldnt be a bad choice. i never even though of rotom wash, and ill try it out over skarmory. i also was already going to change magnezone to scarf, i just havent had a chance yet. i should be able to update the team and test it on monday, but i dont know since i have a lot of school work. thanks for the sets too, btw! p.s: just wondering, ezactly up to what speedteir does scarf magnezone outspeed? you said it outspeeds base 113s, correct?Hey, nice team! It's a little hard to rate without wanting to change too much, especially with half of your team being weak to fairy, fighting, and fire (granted half the team does resist fire, but besides Latias, you won't want Gyarados and Dragonite to come in for attacks that can burn). First off, I'll give you some more threats to think about: Kyurem Black, Conkeldurr, Mega Lopunny, Hydreigon, Mega Altaria, Talonflame and Magnezone, with Kyurem and Altaria being the biggest ones. I think running Rotom-W > Skarmory, and Mega Scizor > Mega Gyarados will work well against these threats.
When it comes to bird spam, Rotom-W is a great check, and it can stop Azumarill too, by crippling it with a burn and then doing some major damage with volt switch. He also helps with your fire weakness.
You said you were considering Mega Scizor, so I went ahead and thought of how it would work out. He's one annoying set up sweeper as his bulk can be annoying and a boosted Bullet Punch easily eliminates the threats I mentioned, ignoring Talonflame and Magnezone. Scizor and Rotom form a nice core typing wise and Scizor gives you another option to kill Azumarill.
Choice Scarf with 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Timid will work out best for your team because you lack a choice scarf user, and it'll be handy against opposing Mega Diancie, Kyurem Black, Gyarados with EQ, Charizard Y, and threats that outspeed you with up to 113 speed (Serperior included).
These changes will make your team no longer weak to fairy, but half of the team is still weak to fire, so Rotom-W will be heavily relied on. Hope this helped ^_^
Rotom-Wash @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 44 Atk / 16 Def / 200 SpD OR 248 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Impish Nature / Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Roost
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower (For Bisharp)
EDIT: i'll try out assault vest bisharp too, but can you leave the set? Also, i was thinking about changing bisharp to hippowdon as suggested earlier, so would that still work, or would it end up being unnecessary with your changes?
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It barely outspeeds Serperior, but not Starmie and Raikou, so yes it goes to 113. You won't have an exact answer to Rotom-W besides Latias, but I'll try to come up with something. The set is 236 HP / 252 Atk / 20 SpD Adamant. Tbh I never thought about Hippo XD. You'd lose a ton of offense, and gain some bulk and SR, but you also become very weak to Starmie. Rotom-W would be the only one that can safely come in, and you'll probably have Rotom-W taking other hits too, so its risky to let it. If you run Mega Gyarados, then I think you should go for ArchPhantom's suggestions, since he covered your team with Mega Gyarados pretty well. Otherwise I think Bisharp will be more helpful with Mega Scizor if you decide to use it. Mega Gyarados isn't the best option against Rotom-W, even with EQ because you take the chance of being burned or KO'd from Volt Switch, and Hippo doesn't help with dealing with Rotom-W. However, Mega Gyarados can be decent against Starmie lacking Scald, so you could keep Hippo as long as you have Mega Gyarados.
There's another threat I forgot to mention, Mega Venusaur. Latias is the only pokemon that can do reliable damage to it with Psyshock, and Mega Gyarados won't be able to hold it off for too long. Luckily, your Dragonite can 2HKO it with Outrage, but it's a risky play as you'll be locked in Outrage. Its definitely something you'll need to play carefully around, especially if you want to keep Latias healthy.
Yeah, I've always had a lot of trouble with mega venusaur. Those things are so bulky! Anyways, I guess I'll make two versions of this team, one with mega gyarados, and one with mega scizor, see which one I like to use more, and then update the rmt to fit the one I like.
P.s: do you have any suggestions for a stealth rock pokemon? The main thing I'm worried about with your suggestions is that I lose stealth rocks, which makes me much weaker to charizard and talonflame (thundurus ends up being annoying as well) have any ideas?
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The only one I can think of is Heatran as it is able to wall Mega Venusaur and help you with your fire weakness. Only downside is choosing who to replace.
Heatran @ Leftovers
EVs: 248 HP / 192 SpD / 68 Spe
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Toxic
- Taunt / Protect / Roar
- Stealth Rock
OR (if you want an offensive one)
Heatran @ Air Balloon
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
Eh, ill think about who to replace with heatran, if any. TBH I don't even use this team much anymore, i've been messing around with a baton pass team as of late. But I will still fully update this team, just for it to be finished.The only one I can think of is Heatran as it is able to wall Mega Venusaur and help you with your fire weakness. Only downside is choosing who to replace.
Heatran @ Leftovers
EVs: 248 HP / 192 SpD / 68 Spe
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Toxic
- Taunt / Protect / Roar
- Stealth Rock
OR (if you want an offensive one)
Heatran @ Air Balloon
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Flash Cannon
- Stealth Rock
I think Heatran could replace Magnezone, since Scizor has Superpower, but otherwise idk who else to replace.
eh , ill try out heatran, but i dont know if ill actually replace it or not. I mean, its not completely necessary to have a stealth rock poke, but it does help a bit.
Hi, I've noticed that you've got an 8x weakness to fire (without rotom wash) which is pretty risky as things like speedy fire types (like talonflame) can take down your team. But as you've got rotom wash, the fire weakness goes down to 4x which isn't as bad but a strong grass type or a gravity/ mold-breaker ground type combo can also take down rotom if rotom can't get a hydro-pump off as it hasn't got 100% accuracy. However, volt-switch will come in very helpful as you can switch out from threats like grass types into your dragonite with fire-punch. What I'm basically getting at here is that you are relying quite a lot on rotom wash which hasn't got great hp even with ev's. Maybe switching magnezone or scizor into something like a hex user like gengar to take advantage of status conditions.
Hope I helped! :)
Hope I helped! :)