Hawkstar make up your damn mind >:(
as for the sets mentioned: Rest talk is too risky to run without having a reliable way to remove ghosts (ie skunky and friends). with ghosts gone, though i think you'll find it almost as effective as Resttalk Heracross was. Possible idea is to drop Facade (which provides litterally no coverage. oooh i can hit poisons and psychics harder) for either Stone Edge / Rockslide or Bulk up - for a more "crocrune" set ( I really like those resttalkers, if you havent noticed)
I go back to original point of Subpunch going to be ruining everyones day. It's just hella powerful. After iron fist and stab bonuses, it reaches a whopping 270 base power. Lemme ust list some other stuff I know of that reaches that kind of power. Adaptability-boosted crabhammer in the rain... uhhh..... I... I think thats it. and its backed by a 72 power priority attack; put in perspective, thats only 18 less than Scizor's bullet punch and 3 less than an unboosted drain punch. Unfortunetly none of his coverage moves are boosted by it, but if you're willing for a Triple Punch set, drain punch reaches a whopping 135, stronger than unstabbed blizzard/fireblast/thunder; and on par with STAB surfs. Sure the sets hell of weak to ghosts, litterally completely walled by it, but with their being only 1 (arguably 2) good ghosts in the teir, by the name of Misdreavus (and drifloon I guess). finding a way to eliminate it wont be hard. maybe a dedicated skunky or pawniard to the job. You dont even need coverage on fliers. I think the ony flying types that dont take neutral damage to timburr's stabs are wingull and Ducklett. None of the fliers in the teir (bar vullaby) are very defensive and its not outspoken to say Focus punch will decimate them. Great teamates for the set include people who can kill missy - Skunky and pawniard come to mind. a special mention goes out to scraggy who can set up on missy and also (kind of) tank the status effects thanks to shed skin. the two i think will make a powerful sweeping combo.
The last thing mentioned was a sort of "rain timburr" set. Its an interesting concept. Iunno what to really say about it, but I look foward to the results. Like i said before, totally playing Sub Punch
as for the sets mentioned: Rest talk is too risky to run without having a reliable way to remove ghosts (ie skunky and friends). with ghosts gone, though i think you'll find it almost as effective as Resttalk Heracross was. Possible idea is to drop Facade (which provides litterally no coverage. oooh i can hit poisons and psychics harder) for either Stone Edge / Rockslide or Bulk up - for a more "crocrune" set ( I really like those resttalkers, if you havent noticed)
I go back to original point of Subpunch going to be ruining everyones day. It's just hella powerful. After iron fist and stab bonuses, it reaches a whopping 270 base power. Lemme ust list some other stuff I know of that reaches that kind of power. Adaptability-boosted crabhammer in the rain... uhhh..... I... I think thats it. and its backed by a 72 power priority attack; put in perspective, thats only 18 less than Scizor's bullet punch and 3 less than an unboosted drain punch. Unfortunetly none of his coverage moves are boosted by it, but if you're willing for a Triple Punch set, drain punch reaches a whopping 135, stronger than unstabbed blizzard/fireblast/thunder; and on par with STAB surfs. Sure the sets hell of weak to ghosts, litterally completely walled by it, but with their being only 1 (arguably 2) good ghosts in the teir, by the name of Misdreavus (and drifloon I guess). finding a way to eliminate it wont be hard. maybe a dedicated skunky or pawniard to the job. You dont even need coverage on fliers. I think the ony flying types that dont take neutral damage to timburr's stabs are wingull and Ducklett. None of the fliers in the teir (bar vullaby) are very defensive and its not outspoken to say Focus punch will decimate them. Great teamates for the set include people who can kill missy - Skunky and pawniard come to mind. a special mention goes out to scraggy who can set up on missy and also (kind of) tank the status effects thanks to shed skin. the two i think will make a powerful sweeping combo.
The last thing mentioned was a sort of "rain timburr" set. Its an interesting concept. Iunno what to really say about it, but I look foward to the results. Like i said before, totally playing Sub Punch