The white and red plus the yellow eyes make me think of a kabuki mask.
Getting tricked by Illusion and Close Combatting what you thought was a Ferrothorn: "That was his mistake!"
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Getting tricked by Illusion and Close Combatting what you thought was a Ferrothorn: "That was his mistake!"
I would hazard a guess that there will be a trailer with actual gameplay footage in the (hopefully) near future, at which point the website will be updated with the art and screenshots of them in game.
While the game Ookami presents Amaterasu that way, in reality foxes are more closely associated with Inari
although considering its Ghost typing, Zoroark-H's inspiration might be instead Dakini
although usually syncretized with Inari; Dakini is notable for having her origins as a demon in Hindu mythology and is associated with black magic, even in Japan
which is certainly fitting for a ghost type
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Perfect for a children's hospital.
I wonder if H-Zorua will always look this droopy (went back to the trailer and its eyes didn't change even when expressing obvious curiosity at the recording device) or if it was just for the trailer.
Lore-wise, maybe another case like Phantump/Shuppet of a Pokémon being born of concentrated negative emotions? H-Zoroark looks angry as fuk even as it makes sure Zorua is okay, maybe something to do with curses? Its fur is blood red...
Lore-wise, maybe another case like Phantump/Shuppet of a Pokémon being born of concentrated negative emotions? H-Zoroark looks angry as fuk even as it makes sure Zorua is okay, maybe something to do with curses? Its fur is blood red...
While I think Hisuian Zorua is adorable, I actually thought Hisuian Zoroark was actually Lycanroc-Midnight for a moment because of the hair. Overall though, not surprised they were the picks for Regional variants, both are pretty popular Pokémon thank to being the first Gen 5 revealed and the movie. Surprised there wasn’t more marketing for them until now.
That had to do with Zoroark’s initial poor reception back when it was revealed due to being another “biped mammal animal” like Lucario before it for heavy marketing, hence why the marketing toward the Zorua line went down under outside of a few select merchandise.
In other words, while popular nowadays, the line is still severely overshadowed until now.
Huh. That’s interesting. I never knew that, though I did think Zoroark and Lucario were popular in concept. I wonder if Smash Bros. Brawl is the primary reason why Lucario is so popular.
It also really didn't help Zoroark's case that in BW1 it was a non-mythical event-locked mon.
I found this explanation for their lack of popularity in this huge thread from another forum quite a while ago
Forkball five years ago said:
Excuse the nitpick of a post from 5 years ago but Zoroark's first TCG appearence was actually not bad
1 energy let you use the same search attack
2 energy let you use any of your opponent's moves, without needing to pay the cost.
I don't know enough to say that it was meta, but it did get a promotion re-release and a shiny secret rare over that generation of the game. The other zoroarks were more mediocre but that's not especially rare for anyone.
1 energy let you use the same search attack
2 energy let you use any of your opponent's moves, without needing to pay the cost.
I don't know enough to say that it was meta, but it did get a promotion re-release and a shiny secret rare over that generation of the game. The other zoroarks were more mediocre but that's not especially rare for anyone.
Oh neat. Cool typing, and I'm liking the style inspirations (kabuki mask with their red/white colour scheme) but the hair's a bit lame. Looks too much like Lycanroc-Midnight like that. Zoroark's huge mane in a ponytail with that green bead has always looked really cool to me. I get they're aiming to make it look a little more messy but could have made it going backwards.
I think that the reason they went for the forward facing hair is to show it as an opposite to base. Especially with the radical shift to white
252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Marshadow Rock Tomb vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zoroark: 205-243 (78.5 - 93.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Nope.
Literally first thought after hearing about it's typing was "well Marshadow's stabs are no longer unresisted"
Anyways my thoughts regarding the new Pokemon:
Hisuian-Zorua: Fucking adorable
Hisuian-Zoroark: Almost cool. I like alot about it's design but the weird strands of hair it has kinda throw me off. Unovan Zoroark has them too but it looks a lot better on it compared to H-Zoroark. I might get used to it but it's one of the weaker Hisuian Pokemon aside from Wyrdeer (which isn't to say it's bad, just not as great as stuff like Kleavor or Basculegion)
Hisuian-Zorua: Fucking adorable
Hisuian-Zoroark: Almost cool. I like alot about it's design but the weird strands of hair it has kinda throw me off. Unovan Zoroark has them too but it looks a lot better on it compared to H-Zoroark. I might get used to it but it's one of the weaker Hisuian Pokemon aside from Wyrdeer (which isn't to say it's bad, just not as great as stuff like Kleavor or Basculegion)
HA, they heard me! Proof that Game Freak stalks the Orange Islands forum.
Anyway they both look super cute and as someone who has wanted a Normal/Ghost-type forEVER, my interest in this game just sharply rose and ohmigawd I really want one
If I end up getting this game I will just be using all of the regionals and evos because there hasn't been a miss yet, they're all superb.
Perhaps Zoroark's greatest Illusion is tricking people into thinking Normal/Ghost is a defensive typing. It's got a pretty poor set of resistances (Bug and Poison are some of the worst offensive typings) and Zoroark itself has never been able to take hits well both from stats and ability; but conversely Normal/Ghost as coverage is only resisted by 2 existing Pokémon (Bisharp and Tyranitar) that both fall to Focus Blast (Which I'd expect Hisuian Zoroark to get), and other than that only Hisuian Zoroark itself is immune to Normal/Ghost/Fighting coverage.
If anything Normal/Ghost is useful not for its defensive potential but because of (assuming it keeps) Illusion, as Immunities allows it to trick the foe better as it wouldn't be taking damage from a wrong prediction. I really think Zoroark was the best possible pick for a Normal/Ghost.
Also I know this is not why they picked Normal/Ghost and Zoroark for a combo but it's really funny to me that the Illusion Pokémon gets a type that deceives most people into thinking it's a defensive combination when in reality it's a great offensive combo instead.
If anything Normal/Ghost is useful not for its defensive potential but because of (assuming it keeps) Illusion, as Immunities allows it to trick the foe better as it wouldn't be taking damage from a wrong prediction. I really think Zoroark was the best possible pick for a Normal/Ghost.
Also I know this is not why they picked Normal/Ghost and Zoroark for a combo but it's really funny to me that the Illusion Pokémon gets a type that deceives most people into thinking it's a defensive combination when in reality it's a great offensive combo instead.
This. There's more to a type's defensive ability than it's weaknesses. Having 3 immunites and only one weakness is solid, sure, but resistances are what make the Pokemon. If you're not generally taking less damage from attacks, you're not doing a good job at being a defensive Pokemon. H-Zoroark (or other future Ghost/Normals for a better example) will be able to switch in easily because of those immunities but after that, it wont be hard to take down with repeated, non-resisted stab hits. Even Grass, a type with a whopping 5 weaknesses can actually be a good defensive typing because of it's key resistances to common attacking types such as Ground, Water, and Electric. There's a reason adding Steel to your typing makes you infinitely better (unless you're a Rock or Ice type, in which case it doesn't do much except add a neutrality to Rocks)
So basically what you said. People should focus on Normal/Ghost's offensive prowess provided it gets Fighting coverage, not it's defensive prowess (I mean even if it was an amazing defensive type it's still Zoroark, it'll be frail as hell)
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Marshadow gets Knock Off, too. 252 Atk Marshadow Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zoroark: 312-368 (119.5 - 140.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It ain't running Knock Off just for one fox.
Don't want to seem impatient, but is there any reason the official site didn't update with official artwork/information about Hisuian Zorua and Hisuian Zoroark? In the previous two cases where a new Pokemon was teased in a cryptic way and revealed later (Sirfetch'd and G-Ponyta), the SWSH website updated as soon as the official trailer came out. The reveal of Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark was very similar, but the American website didn't update at all. The Japanese website acknowledged that it was a Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark (and also confirmed their types) but didn't post any official artwork either.
Maybe there's a little bit more to this news drop than we thought... Do they have another new Hisuian form or Pokemon they want to reveal this month, and they're saving the official official reveal of Hisuian Zorua and Hisuian Zoroark to also coincide with the reveal with the other new Hisuian form/Pokemon? Are Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark going to be the Impidimp of PLA, where we know they exist but GF just refuses to show them off officially for some reason? Or are they just a bit behind with editing their official announcement trailer?
I just really want to see Hisuian Zoroark's official artwork, man. The pose in the footage makes it look like a knockoff Midnight Lycanroc, and I want to see it in a different pose so I can judge its design better.
Maybe there's a little bit more to this news drop than we thought... Do they have another new Hisuian form or Pokemon they want to reveal this month, and they're saving the official official reveal of Hisuian Zorua and Hisuian Zoroark to also coincide with the reveal with the other new Hisuian form/Pokemon? Are Hisuian Zorua and Zoroark going to be the Impidimp of PLA, where we know they exist but GF just refuses to show them off officially for some reason? Or are they just a bit behind with editing their official announcement trailer?
I just really want to see Hisuian Zoroark's official artwork, man. The pose in the footage makes it look like a knockoff Midnight Lycanroc, and I want to see it in a different pose so I can judge its design better.