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I'm not sure if Rain + Rest would work so well on Vappy seeing as she has a horrible Defense stat (although I suppose her high HP balances it out). That, and the fact that Vaporeon might have stiff competition with Mamanbou. Besides, rain teams tend to be hyper-offensive since they only have 8 turns of rain, unless GF gives us an auto-Drizzle pokemon.

I agree completely with Glaceon = the new Stallrein. Oh, and Jolteon WILL get Lightningrod. TROLL FREAK!

Vaporeon can take on DD Gyarados so I don't think its low Def will be a problem. Rain teams usually have atleast one bulky Rain supporter so Vaporeon could fit in there just as easily as something like Bronzong.
 
Flareon is sad after 10 posts discussing Eeveelutions and no mention of it.

I think they'll give it Blaze or Flame Body. None of them help much though.
 
Flareon is sad after 10 posts discussing Eeveelutions and no mention of it.

I think they'll give it Blaze or Flame Body. None of them help much though.

We had like a 4 page discussion on it when the new Eeveelution abilities were revealed, so I don't think it minds much..
 
yeah but, are we gonna be able to RNG AT ALL. GF is making pokemon more complicate as new games come out

they have said that they consider it cheating so its likely they will make a more complex RNG/use random noise from some receiver on the DS
 
i just remember something, what about the combination of attacks, i mean, are there gonna be exclusive moves that can combine with exclusive ones, or are this exclusive moves can combine with any other move?
 
Flareon is sad after 10 posts discussing Eeveelutions and no mention of it.

I think they'll give it Blaze or Flame Body. None of them help much though.

Huge Power? LOLOLOLOLOL...

Well, to be on the serious side (and I think this was discussed a while back), I think we need a better physical fire attack. Flare Blitz's recoil is horrible considering SR takes 25% right of the bat for most fire-types.

Now that I think about it, we also need a better physical ghost move, though only Duskinor and Spiritomb would benefit.
 
Huge Power? LOLOLOLOLOL...

Well, to be on the serious side (and I think this was discussed a while back), I think we need a better physical fire attack. Flare Blitz's recoil is horrible considering SR takes 25% right of the bat for most fire-types.

Now that I think about it, we also need a better physical ghost move, though only Duskinor and Spiritomb would benefit.

I agree with this. Stealth Rock currently wrecks most of the Fire types. Perhaps giving Flame Wheel an added Rapid Spin-like ability? In order to balance Rapid Spin, perhaps make it stronger or give it a chance to flinch or confuse?
 
What if charizard gets a new ability that makes him immune to rock type moves. Maybe a kind of levitate for rocks, call it rock dodge?
 
Flareon needs moves, not abilities. Also, let's not rule out the possibility that DW abilities could include some of the new ones - if there is a handy new Fire-based ability then it could get one. But really, besides Flash Fire what is there? The eeveelutions seem to be based on "becoming" their respective element, and that's covered - flame Body's a good bet, I suppose.

As for Umbreon or Espeon, which are slightly different, would they get separate abilities or the same alternate one, as with Synchronise?

And I only just realised how game changing it could be to finally open up the Starters to new abilities. The question there is does each pokemon get an individual ability or will they just go with "Blaze becomes this" and etc.
 
A Fire-type Motor Drive might be great for Flareon. Magmortar wants it too. Flareon's Speed is quite a problem, maybe a Fire-type Motor Drive would mitigate it to some extent.
 
A Fire-type Motor Drive might be great for Flareon. Magmortar wants it too. Flareon's Speed is quite a problem, maybe a Fire-type Motor Drive would mitigate it to some extent.

Being a fire type still would be a major question mark for flareon to get more use, arcanine still would be a better option unless he get a new ability that set him appart from him.

Maybe the reason we dont know the rest of the eevee evolution abilities is that they are new!!!! Personally I just want jolteon and swampert to get new or at least better abilities than the ones they have now, and that does not include jolteon getting spark, lighting rod, or motor drive.
 
Being a fire type still would be a major question mark for flareon to get more use, arcanine still would be a better option unless he get a new ability that set him appart from him.

Maybe the reason we dont know the rest of the eevee evolution abilities is that they are new!!!! Personally I just want jolteon and swampert to get new or at least better abilities than the ones they have now, and that does not include jolteon getting spark, lighting rod, or motor drive.

Well, that's why I suggested a Fire-type Motor Drive-- a new ability to differentiate him from Arcanine. I don't know how fast it would be with a Motor Drive-style boost, though. If it's faster than Arcanine and the extra speed let's it do something Arcanine can't, then that would be a reason to use it over Arcanine.
 
A Fire-type Motor Drive might be great for Flareon. Magmortar wants it too. Flareon's Speed is quite a problem, maybe a Fire-type Motor Drive would mitigate it to some extent.

Gen 5 introduced a fire-type move that increases one's speed (Nitro Charge), and I can safely assume that Flareon will learn it somehow. If it doesn't, then a Fire-type Motor Drive would be useful; otherwise, I think Flareon would appreciate a "Fire Absorb" ability more. Just my 2 cents.


Wow, 25 posts and no mentioning about the new starters? Good job DDRMaster!
 
Flareon needs an ability to change all Moves into physical

Ghosts need abilities that completely avoid physical attacks. (transparency)

Espeon @ Trace
Jolteon @ Rough Skin
Leafeon @ Effect Spore
Umbreon @ Aftermath
Flareon @ Intimidate
 
I know, I know. Obviously TerraVoltage isn't going to be motor drive. I was just saying, if I was making a fire type motor drive, I'd name it turbo blaze.
Your guess is as good as mine.
 
What Dream world ability changes do you think there would be?
Honestly, I'd give each Pressure legendaey a differernt ability. Mewtwo would dominate Red/Blue style if it had something like Tinted Lens.
 
I doubt it, because then TeraVoltage would just be a copied form of Motor Drive/Volt Absorb, just raising Attack, and I do not want that. And.. GROUDON??? I would put more question marks if I could, if you switch Groudon in to a Fire Blast, it's history.

He meant to switch Groudon into Zekrom's electric attacks, while doing the same with heatran @ Reshiram's fire ones.
 
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