How does the tree work ? You just have to bought them ... ?
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Having just gotten a rather good Ho-oh and been spamming Sacred Fire I don't think it's THAT slow. I'll agree that the hitbox is weird and extremely linear until it's suddenly wide but I haven't had much trouble with that. What's really nice is the high burn chance which is a great way at whittling down bosses and other enemies. It also has a decent range and spread for chipping yourself into mobs from afar.
From my experience of this game, it is fun to the point where I'd be happy to pay the $30-$40 that 3000 diamonds cost. Ironically, I've decided to see how long I can enjoy the game without buying Diamonds and I'm not sure if my sanity can take the cooldowns much longer.
Anyway, the game's been out for awhile so everyone probably knows about this, but each balloon is guarantee to be able to take you to at least area that has a Pokemon you haven't captured yet unless you've captured them all. For example: The only Pokemon is the Gold Plateau I haven't gotten is Typhlosion and he only appears when his section has 2 Star, so that area will have 2 Stars until I catch Typhlosion. (Which is bad news if I want another Ho-oh)
Also, I have a tip for fighting Groudon. Screw Groudon! Harvest the infinite Darmanitan! Especially the Zen Mode ones. Those things are insane for nonlegendary Pokemon. Groudon killed me last time I fought him, but I got a ~1450 Punchy+ Zen Mode Darmanitan out of the fight so I'm very happy with that fight. Zen Headbutt from that thing might be more powerful than Roar of Time from my ~1500 Dialga, even after Dialga uses Hone Claws.
EDIT: I found out there's no loophole in the 3DS's design that allows you to have a save file that's a new one, but with 3000 Diamonds bought, and load a copy of that save when you want to start over. (It's probably a good thing because it prevents piracy, but it's still annoying) I'd rather not pay $30-$40 for 3000 Diamonds for EACH time I want to start over.
Anyway, the game's been out for awhile so everyone probably knows about this, but each balloon is guarantee to be able to take you to at least area that has a Pokemon you haven't captured yet unless you've captured them all. For example: The only Pokemon is the Gold Plateau I haven't gotten is Typhlosion and he only appears when his section has 2 Star, so that area will have 2 Stars until I catch Typhlosion. (Which is bad news if I want another Ho-oh)
Also, I have a tip for fighting Groudon. Screw Groudon! Harvest the infinite Darmanitan! Especially the Zen Mode ones. Those things are insane for nonlegendary Pokemon. Groudon killed me last time I fought him, but I got a ~1450 Punchy+ Zen Mode Darmanitan out of the fight so I'm very happy with that fight. Zen Headbutt from that thing might be more powerful than Roar of Time from my ~1500 Dialga, even after Dialga uses Hone Claws.
EDIT: I found out there's no loophole in the 3DS's design that allows you to have a save file that's a new one, but with 3000 Diamonds bought, and load a copy of that save when you want to start over. (It's probably a good thing because it prevents piracy, but it's still annoying) I'd rather not pay $30-$40 for 3000 Diamonds for EACH time I want to start over.
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I'm currentlylevel 50 ! Finally getting my first epic pokemon (bad traits) ... I still didnt find a good gutsy pokemon with high crit moves + focus energy
I'd recommend the combination of Endeavor and Gutsy with another attack move. Endeavor almost never kills a Pokemon because of its mechanic, but since it damages (1 point if you have the same or more health) them they can still wobble, at which point you want to knock them out. Focus Energy and high crit strategy I don't trust to consistency n case I know the boss out too soon, or at least I carry an Endeavor mon as a back up
i should try that
King's requests, Streetpass, Spotpass, and the "Call Someone Online" function under visitors all grant you PokeDiamonds. More PokeDiamonds can be obtained by rescuing Miis on stages. I believe you can get upwards to ~300 PokeDiamonds from completing the King's challenges alone. You get 1 Diamond for every 5 Mii visits, and each Mii you rescue may hand you 1 Diamond (or 2-3 but those are incredibly rare. Also note that you're not even guaranteed to get a diamond). You can probably get ~6 per day not counting the King's challenges (as that's not infinite), if you tried (will probably need a lot of friend code swapping though).
Be warned that that this game can eat up a -LOT- of PokeDiamonds and people who have paid for the 3000 diamonds will still find themselves running out, even with the +20 per day. Later rank Trees can cost 200+ diamonds, for example.
Be warned that that this game can eat up a -LOT- of PokeDiamonds and people who have paid for the 3000 diamonds will still find themselves running out, even with the +20 per day. Later rank Trees can cost 200+ diamonds, for example.
Let's assume the only thing I'm seeking to explicitly grind/farm diamonds for are the Balloons (the trees I'm not too concerned with since the Balloons are what unlock new content). How many diamonds does it take to purchase every Balloon in the game? I bought the 250 that were on sale just because I had some spare change left over from redeeming a card, so combined with the King's challenges that equates to 550 diamonds in game (minus around 20 I spent to increase my capacity with houses). I notice the later Balloons have a significantly higher pricing curve despite the rate earning diamonds not increasing. Inevitably the game expects you to buy some at least unless you want to earn the last ones at a glacial pace, but how many does it expect you to buy if you earn all ~300 of the King's?
You're gonna need those balloons to even complete the challenges barring extremely lucky miis and absurdly powerful legendaries that can carry you through them. People are trying to find out what contributes to the stages the miis offer to take you to.
I think the game expects you to buy ~1500 for balloon stuff and minor extra expenses.
I think the game expects you to buy ~1500 for balloon stuff and minor extra expenses.
Personal experiences with moves:
Earthquake: Very laggy, and if a move is used after it (regardless of EQ or other move), it's also very laggy. Does have good power and range. 3/5
Draining Kiss: For whatever, reason, it's like 4-5 stars. Illogical power aside, it's probably the best draining move in the game. Quick, powerful, and, well, a good recovery move. 5/5
Searing Shot: Homing and burn chance are nice, but is extremely laggy. 2.9/5
Origin Pulse: Dumbed down a bit. Pretty powerful move, but it's fairly hard to hit (at least to me). Still a good move with explosive properties. 3.4/5
Hyper Voice: Not the most powerful, but is fairly quick and has excellent range. 4/5
Draining Kiss: For whatever, reason, it's like 4-5 stars. Illogical power aside, it's probably the best draining move in the game. Quick, powerful, and, well, a good recovery move. 5/5
Searing Shot: Homing and burn chance are nice, but is extremely laggy. 2.9/5
Origin Pulse: Dumbed down a bit. Pretty powerful move, but it's fairly hard to hit (at least to me). Still a good move with explosive properties. 3.4/5
Hyper Voice: Not the most powerful, but is fairly quick and has excellent range. 4/5
Because you get 10 free Diamonds when you've been connected to the internet the same time as a friend 1, 5, or 10 times, (They also have to different people) I've been wondering if it's okay to ask to exchange friend codes for Free Diamonds here or if it's better to ask in the WiFi section's SQSA. I'm not sure which is the right area to ask because the WiFi section feels like it's for the main series games. (P.S. If anyone wants to friend me for Diamonds, feel free to VM me.)
You get Diamonds for doing the objectives you haven't done yet, (Completing the mission is the one that gives the most) and to get the complete in Hard Mode one you have to replay it, so there is somewhat worth it to replay them.
Now that I've got and used Origin Pulse, I have my own opinion - it's only good for mobs. It's long wide range and explosive and multi-hit properties is great when it comes to breaking into mobs. One-on-one and bosses it's pretty terrible unless you have the type advantage then suddenly it becomes great.
Yeah, I kinda figured that out, though as I've discovered, completing it in Hard Mode makes the first play seem like a cake walk (which I guess it is, if you have the type advantage). I made the mistake of thinking I could go in with Zoroark and sweep the Magician, Hard Mode or not. Instead, his Mega Alakazam swept Zoroark aside like he was nothing (albeit I was at half health).
I'll take you up on your offer tomorrow. I don't feel like doing it tonight.
Some more move opinions and stuff, and a few updates:
Aeroblast: This does more damage than I thought. Pretty good overall and it's easy to get 3 hits. 3.5/5
Origin Pulse: At this stage of the game it's pretty meh. It's not even strong anymore and the blind spots are annoying. 3.5/5 (Down from 4.5)
Precipice Blades: Pretty weak now but still fast and covers a wide AoE. 3.5/5 (Down from 5)
Doom Desire: This thing is really hard to aim and doesn't do much dmg anyway. 2/5
Roar of Time: Pretty sure this is the best attack in the game. Massive AoE with ridiculous damage. Startup lag can be patched with Snappy or Hone Claws. Or you can get a Slugger one and just bomb the screen. 5/5
Spacial Rend: AoE range nerfed since the original rumble, but it's pretty fast now. Not exactly strong though. 3/5
Shadow Force: Okay this move is better than I thought. It hits extremely hard and the invincibility -> blink with minimal end lag means Giratina can zip in and out without leaving itself too vulnerable (Both Giratina formes are also insanely bulky so you have a lot of breathing room). Shadow Force's startup invincibilty allows Giratina to take full advantage of the long startup bug that occurs when you switch from A to B, usually involving boosting moves I think. Also this move's hitbox is very forgiving. Run this with Hone Claws or Calm Mind and it'll serve you well. Bonus for hitting through Protect/Spiky Shield, although Giratina still takes recoil from the latter. 4/5
Bolt Strike: This move is super strong...if you land all 4 hits. Problem is that's near impossible and most of the time you're landing 1-2 even on giant bosses. It does give Zekrom a lot of mobility though, and the paralysis is nice. 2.5/5
Blue Flare: Pretty fun to spam with satisfying sound effects and decent damage + burn. Lag and slow projectile travel is annoying. Very good range. 3.5/5
Freeze Shock: It's like Moonblast except it deals a lot more damage and paralyzes. Hitbox sucks though. 2.5/5
Oblivion Wing: Pretty laggy and Yveltal isn't the fastest mon to kite with. Usually not worth it tbh. Just get Protect + Sky Attack. 2.5/5
Aeroblast: This does more damage than I thought. Pretty good overall and it's easy to get 3 hits. 3.5/5
Origin Pulse: At this stage of the game it's pretty meh. It's not even strong anymore and the blind spots are annoying. 3.5/5 (Down from 4.5)
Precipice Blades: Pretty weak now but still fast and covers a wide AoE. 3.5/5 (Down from 5)
Doom Desire: This thing is really hard to aim and doesn't do much dmg anyway. 2/5
Roar of Time: Pretty sure this is the best attack in the game. Massive AoE with ridiculous damage. Startup lag can be patched with Snappy or Hone Claws. Or you can get a Slugger one and just bomb the screen. 5/5
Spacial Rend: AoE range nerfed since the original rumble, but it's pretty fast now. Not exactly strong though. 3/5
Shadow Force: Okay this move is better than I thought. It hits extremely hard and the invincibility -> blink with minimal end lag means Giratina can zip in and out without leaving itself too vulnerable (Both Giratina formes are also insanely bulky so you have a lot of breathing room). Shadow Force's startup invincibilty allows Giratina to take full advantage of the long startup bug that occurs when you switch from A to B, usually involving boosting moves I think. Also this move's hitbox is very forgiving. Run this with Hone Claws or Calm Mind and it'll serve you well. Bonus for hitting through Protect/Spiky Shield, although Giratina still takes recoil from the latter. 4/5
Bolt Strike: This move is super strong...if you land all 4 hits. Problem is that's near impossible and most of the time you're landing 1-2 even on giant bosses. It does give Zekrom a lot of mobility though, and the paralysis is nice. 2.5/5
Blue Flare: Pretty fun to spam with satisfying sound effects and decent damage + burn. Lag and slow projectile travel is annoying. Very good range. 3.5/5
Freeze Shock: It's like Moonblast except it deals a lot more damage and paralyzes. Hitbox sucks though. 2.5/5
Oblivion Wing: Pretty laggy and Yveltal isn't the fastest mon to kite with. Usually not worth it tbh. Just get Protect + Sky Attack. 2.5/5
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Dragon Rush w/o Snappy has some startup lag but it's bearable.
Anyways, on to World Championship X
Got as far as the final wave and destroyed most of the final wave of minions before running out of time.
Current setup:
2111 Excellent Dialga 1 [Brawny/Healthy/Techie+/Mighty/Steady/Snappy] - Roar of Time / Draco Meteor
2112 Hardy Dialga 2 - Roar of Time / Hone Claws
2111 Fantastic Xerneas [Unruly/Brawny/Healthy+/Gutsy/Feisty] - Megahorn / Geomancy
2164 Fantastic Mewtwo [Snappy/Steady/Feisty/Gutsy/Resilient] @ Mewtwonite X - Drain Punch / Focus Punch
Attack Tree Lv.8
Defense Tree Lv.6
Speed Tree Lv.4
Waves:
1) Aggron / Tyranitar / Tyrantrum - Super easy w/ Snappy Roar of Time spam from Dialga 1, since they're all melee and just suicide to the AoE anyways.
2) Nidoqueen / Nidoking / Ampharos - A bit more difficult due to the ranged attacks but still p. easy
3) [BOSS] Regice / Regirock / Registeel / Regigigas - I clear the last few minions and switch to Mewtwo X and spam Focus Punch on the Regis. They take about 5 hits to kill. At this point my timer is ~93 seconds, and I finished this at ~83.
4) Gyarados / Dragonite / Aerodactyl - Very annoying wave due to Gyarados' long range Hydro Pump so I have to remain very mobile. I switch to Dialga 2 and use Hone Claws/Roar of Time to remove the Gyaradoses ASAP while the other two mons suicide to the RoT AoE due to their melee range
5) [BOSS] Cresselia / Heatran - Cress is super annoying due to its homing long range Psycho Cut. Heatran's sort of whatever. At this point my timer is ~64s
6) Garchomp / Tangrowth / Rhyperior - Power Whip is almost as annoying as Hydro Pump. Dialga 2 nearly dies here and I have to swap back to Dialga 1 midway.
7) [BOSS] Dialga / Palkia - After clearing a few more minions I swap to Xerneas and Geomancy/Megahorn through the bosses (hopefully killing Cress before Dialga and Palkia because the next wave spawns after the Dragons die and I don't want to deal with Cresselia still being alive and screwing my switch attempts). Xerneas is bulky enough to shrug off Dialga and Palkia's signature moves while charging in recklessly. My timer is at ~52s when they spawned, and I finished them at ~40s
8) Hydreigon / Volcarona / Archeops - I switch back to Dialga 1 as Dialga 2 is no longer in fighting condition. Hydreigon is melee and dies to Roar of Time easily. Archeops is frail and also dies fast. Volcarona is pretty annoying though and getting caught up in Fiery Dance can lock me in place for a while.
9) [BOSS] Reshiram / Zekrom - I try to kill Reshiram first as Zekrom will inevitably Fusion Bolt itself into Roar of Time range. My timer is at ~30s as they spawn, and I finish them w/ ~15s left
10) Salamence / Metagross / Milotic - This wave is surprisingly a lot tamer than Dragonite/Gyarados/Aerodactyl/Garchomp/Tangrowth/Rhyperior. Milotic and Salamence are melee and die to Roar of Time, and Metagross' Psychic doesn't have a lot of range so it also gets caught up in the AoE.
11) [FINAL BOSS] Primal Kyogre / Primal Groudon - Idk if the game will throw a curveball after this but the boss theme started playing here, so I'm pretty sure this is the last. I kill off most of the minions above but the time ran out here while Groudon and Kyogre took about 20% each. I saw Kyogre use Water Spout but I didn't quite catch what Groudon was using (probably PBlade). I'd probably switch back to Mewtwo X if I had the time for maximum dps.
With that I think my plan now is to look for a Slugger Dialga (or really a more powerful Dialga) to get me through the tougher waves. I wonder if Slugger is enough to make Roar of Time outrange Hydro Pump and Power Whip, because that has massive implications if it does.
Anyways, on to World Championship X
Got as far as the final wave and destroyed most of the final wave of minions before running out of time.
Current setup:
2111 Excellent Dialga 1 [Brawny/Healthy/Techie+/Mighty/Steady/Snappy] - Roar of Time / Draco Meteor
2112 Hardy Dialga 2 - Roar of Time / Hone Claws
2111 Fantastic Xerneas [Unruly/Brawny/Healthy+/Gutsy/Feisty] - Megahorn / Geomancy
2164 Fantastic Mewtwo [Snappy/Steady/Feisty/Gutsy/Resilient] @ Mewtwonite X - Drain Punch / Focus Punch
Attack Tree Lv.8
Defense Tree Lv.6
Speed Tree Lv.4
Waves:
1) Aggron / Tyranitar / Tyrantrum - Super easy w/ Snappy Roar of Time spam from Dialga 1, since they're all melee and just suicide to the AoE anyways.
2) Nidoqueen / Nidoking / Ampharos - A bit more difficult due to the ranged attacks but still p. easy
3) [BOSS] Regice / Regirock / Registeel / Regigigas - I clear the last few minions and switch to Mewtwo X and spam Focus Punch on the Regis. They take about 5 hits to kill. At this point my timer is ~93 seconds, and I finished this at ~83.
4) Gyarados / Dragonite / Aerodactyl - Very annoying wave due to Gyarados' long range Hydro Pump so I have to remain very mobile. I switch to Dialga 2 and use Hone Claws/Roar of Time to remove the Gyaradoses ASAP while the other two mons suicide to the RoT AoE due to their melee range
5) [BOSS] Cresselia / Heatran - Cress is super annoying due to its homing long range Psycho Cut. Heatran's sort of whatever. At this point my timer is ~64s
6) Garchomp / Tangrowth / Rhyperior - Power Whip is almost as annoying as Hydro Pump. Dialga 2 nearly dies here and I have to swap back to Dialga 1 midway.
7) [BOSS] Dialga / Palkia - After clearing a few more minions I swap to Xerneas and Geomancy/Megahorn through the bosses (hopefully killing Cress before Dialga and Palkia because the next wave spawns after the Dragons die and I don't want to deal with Cresselia still being alive and screwing my switch attempts). Xerneas is bulky enough to shrug off Dialga and Palkia's signature moves while charging in recklessly. My timer is at ~52s when they spawned, and I finished them at ~40s
8) Hydreigon / Volcarona / Archeops - I switch back to Dialga 1 as Dialga 2 is no longer in fighting condition. Hydreigon is melee and dies to Roar of Time easily. Archeops is frail and also dies fast. Volcarona is pretty annoying though and getting caught up in Fiery Dance can lock me in place for a while.
9) [BOSS] Reshiram / Zekrom - I try to kill Reshiram first as Zekrom will inevitably Fusion Bolt itself into Roar of Time range. My timer is at ~30s as they spawn, and I finish them w/ ~15s left
10) Salamence / Metagross / Milotic - This wave is surprisingly a lot tamer than Dragonite/Gyarados/Aerodactyl/Garchomp/Tangrowth/Rhyperior. Milotic and Salamence are melee and die to Roar of Time, and Metagross' Psychic doesn't have a lot of range so it also gets caught up in the AoE.
11) [FINAL BOSS] Primal Kyogre / Primal Groudon - Idk if the game will throw a curveball after this but the boss theme started playing here, so I'm pretty sure this is the last. I kill off most of the minions above but the time ran out here while Groudon and Kyogre took about 20% each. I saw Kyogre use Water Spout but I didn't quite catch what Groudon was using (probably PBlade). I'd probably switch back to Mewtwo X if I had the time for maximum dps.
With that I think my plan now is to look for a Slugger Dialga (or really a more powerful Dialga) to get me through the tougher waves. I wonder if Slugger is enough to make Roar of Time outrange Hydro Pump and Power Whip, because that has massive implications if it does.
I still never manage to make boss pokemon wobble :s
Aside from that, taking some chances when you see the rainbow, and using like Endeavor + Gutsy Mons, I can't guess what else you can do.
Just remember that as long as you don't go on the exit balloon, you can quit the game (by the home button or the power button) and save your gems.