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Past Gens Analysis Reservation Index

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DurzaOffTopic said:
Can I pick up Wailord and Tropius for ADV NU? I can also grab Vigoroth down the line just as a heads up.

edit: ill just get vigoroth now if its cool
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Aaronboyer said:
Sneasel isn't on the ADV VR for NU, but it says its NU here: https://www.smogon.com/dex/rs/pokemon/sneasel/uu/ Either way, I would like to reserve it.

EDIT: I also want ADV NU Volbeat
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Yeah, fairly certain Sneasel is UU, but tagging Oglemi for these
MissingNo. Y said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply and more importantly answer me. I tried to do an review for Magicarp ( https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/magicarp-lc-qc-x-3.3636997/#post-7815149 ), and apparently, apart the fact that it got locked, Oglemi him(her ?)self found it funny (in the previous link you can see that) and i'm in no doubt that at least one other person did.

Jokes, boot-licking and chatting aside, i would like to reserve Spinarak G2 (and LC, but that isn't to be presised yet). first of all, because i have an intimate link with this particuliar pokemon, making me know a lot more than the usual PU mook. Secondly, and somewhat inked with the first one... Am i the only on to even care about this pokemon ?
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I don't think a GSC LC Spinarak analysis is worthwhile, tbh. There are no other GSC LC analyses, and we'd want at least all of the major mons covered before uploading them. Spinarak is also pretty terrible in GSC LC (low speed, poor defenses, poor typing, doesn't really get a chance to do anything), so it'd be a very low priority. Is there any particular set it can even pull off well?
 
Ellicrum said:
This is apparently a mistake: Sneasel is classified as UU on Showdown and it's a "C Rank top" in the UU VRs (at the same level as Magmar or Stantler, which are two official UUs). There are other small errors of the same type: Persian and Rapidash are classified as UU in DP and BW (while they are NU) and Jellicent is classified as NU in XY (while it's RU).
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Fixed these, looks like someone edited in a bunch of GSC NUs and messed things up a bit.

DurzaOffTopic said:
Can I pick up Wailord and Tropius for ADV NU? I can also grab Vigoroth down the line just as a heads up.

edit: ill just get vigoroth now if its cool
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I would actually like Tropius but ya go ahead with Wailord and Vigoroth, as long as you're cool with doing the fkn 5 or 6 sets Vig is going to have
 
ah, can i do Bayleef as a screens setter / bulky grass? its actually not bad since pure grass and good ground resist and i assumed it had an analysis already. Loudred is also another NFE without an analysis but it has one of the best movepools in the game and also makes for a good Baton Pass chain recipient because of Soundproof.

(i also want to make a joke analysis for kakuna but that might be a stretch)
 
There are 3 ROA sample teams I have for GSC NU that have Pikachu on them, and one with Mr. Mime, and I don't remember them being particularly overpowered in any sense. However, I asked Sage about those Pokemon specifically and he said that Lavos and himself tested both of both of them are worthy of being UU themselves. He said that they are "solid vs a lot of big threats but are hard to team build with".
 
Bughouse said:
Mr. Mime and Pikachu probably should not be NU. See their placement on the GSC UU VR:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/gsc-uu-viability-ranking-thread.3636234/

Pidgeot probably would be.

But this is all to say until GSC UU/NU is delineated more clearly with actual official tier divisions that make sense, there probably shouldn't be any analyses going on site in my opinion.

Jellicent
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GSC NU's pretty well-developed. It's been in a decent number of tours over the years, featured as a rotational ladder twice, and has the NU Old Gens Hub and an RoA discussion thread as resources already.

Those two probably shouldn't be NU (they're both S-rank at the moment), but they have been for a while now. Pika at least has Duggy to watch for, but Mime's pretty dominant. Granted, still probably not as bad as OU Lax :P
Aaronboyer said:
GSC NU is formatted on Smogdex https://www.smogon.com/dex/gs/formats/nu/ Can we reserve GSC NU Pokemon for analyses? If so, I want Mr. Mime and Pikachu
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I'm cool with reservations starting, but I'd rather get the major mons (S and A, at least) all covered before uploading. It would be weird to just have a couple NU analyses up, especially since UU mons mostly (all?) just have OU analyses...
apokemontrainer68 said:
Can i reserve Anorith








I'll try to write it properly.
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Assuming you're talking about ADV LC, gonna say no for now. There aren't any other ADV LC analyses at the moment, and we'd need all the major mons covered before giving an analysis to Anorith.
DurzaOffTopic said:
ah, can i do Bayleef as a screens setter / bulky grass? its actually not bad since pure grass and good ground resist and i assumed it had an analysis already. Loudred is also another NFE without an analysis but it has one of the best movepools in the game and also makes for a good Baton Pass chain recipient because of Soundproof.

(i also want to make a joke analysis for kakuna but that might be a stretch)
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Will tag Oglemi for this cuz ADV NU ~(^.^)~
 
Jellicent said:
I'm cool with reservations starting, but I'd rather get the major mons (S and A, at least) all covered before uploading. It would be weird to just have a couple NU analyses up, especially since UU mons mostly (all?) just have OU analyses...
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Is “S and A ranks” in reference to GSC UU or NU? Are you basically saying you want to start GSC UU mons first? If you meant UU I want Slowbro, which is S. If you meant NU, I still want Pikachu and Mr. Mime.
 
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DurzaOffTopic said:
ah, can i do Bayleef as a screens setter / bulky grass? its actually not bad since pure grass and good ground resist and i assumed it had an analysis already. Loudred is also another NFE without an analysis but it has one of the best movepools in the game and also makes for a good Baton Pass chain recipient because of Soundproof.

(i also want to make a joke analysis for kakuna but that might be a stretch)
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I looked at those two and wasn't convinced one way or the other so I passed over them, if you want to I won't stop you I guess lol
 
Jellicent said:
GSC NU's pretty well-developed. It's been in a decent number of tours over the years, featured as a rotational ladder twice, and has the NU Old Gens Hub and an RoA discussion thread as resources already.

Those two probably shouldn't be NU (they're both S-rank at the moment), but they have been for a while now. Pika at least has Duggy to watch for, but Mime's pretty dominant. Granted, still probably not as bad as OU Lax :P

I'm cool with reservations starting, but I'd rather get the major mons (S and A, at least) all covered before uploading. It would be weird to just have a couple NU analyses up, especially since UU mons mostly (all?) just have OU analyses...

Assuming you're talking about ADV LC, gonna say no for now. There aren't any other ADV LC analyses at the moment, and we'd need all the major mons covered before giving an analysis to Anorith.

Will tag Oglemi for this cuz ADV NU ~(^.^)~
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Anorith is a part (well kinda) of ADV NU btw.
 
Jellicent said:
GSC NU's pretty well-developed. It's been in a decent number of tours over the years, featured as a rotational ladder twice, and has the NU Old Gens Hub and an RoA discussion thread as resources already.

Those two probably shouldn't be NU (they're both S-rank at the moment), but they have been for a while now. Pika at least has Duggy to watch for, but Mime's pretty dominant. Granted, still probably not as bad as OU Lax :P
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I mean that's kinda the problem lol. GSC NU started ad hoc and picked and chose its own mons apparently without regards to what's actually good in GSC UU (at least with respect to Pikachu and Mr. Mime). That's not how an unofficial old gen low tier before usage stats existed should be made. Not really an argument for the C&C forum, but analyses going up on site reinforces it all.
 
Aaronboyer said:
Is “S and A ranks” in reference to GSC UU or NU? Are you basically saying you want to start GSC UU mons first? If you meant UU I want Slowbro, which is S. If you meant NU, I still want Pikachu and Mr. Mime.
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It's in reference to NU, I'm saying I want S and A rank covered before actually uploading them. So Pika and Mime cover S, just leaves the A rank mons to go through.
apokemontrainer68 said:
Anorith is a part (well kinda) of ADV NU btw.
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Does it fill any competitive niche worth utilizing?
Bughouse said:
I mean that's kinda the problem lol. GSC NU started ad hoc and picked and chose its own mons apparently without regards to what's actually good in GSC UU (at least with respect to Pikachu and Mr. Mime). That's not how an unofficial old gen low tier before usage stats existed should be made. Not really an argument for the C&C forum, but analyses going up on site reinforces it all.
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I mean, the GSC lower tier lists we adopted are the Mt Silver ones. The playerbase for old gens lower tiers at the time was pretty tiny, so it's more a result of less experimentation with the format. If you want to discuss potentially revamping that, I'd be fine with a thread in RoA to gauge the playerbase's thoughts. If there's actual interest from the folks that play it, we could use a rotational ladder to test things out (August's staff's pick is gonna be GSC.)
 
apokemontrainer68 said:
Anorith is a part (well kinda) of ADV NU btw.
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Jellicent said:
I mean, the GSC lower tier lists we adopted are the Mt Silver ones. The playerbase for old gens lower tiers at the time was pretty tiny, so it's more a result of less experimentation with the format. If you want to discuss potentially revamping that, I'd be fine with a thread in RoA to gauge the playerbase's thoughts. If there's actual interest from the folks that play it, we could use a rotational ladder to test things out (August's staff's pick is gonna be GSC.)
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Anorith is really bad in ADV NU, but it already has an analysis in progress by Oglemi
Jellicent said:
It's in reference to NU, I'm saying I want S and A rank covered before actually uploading them. So Pika and Mime cover S, just leaves the A rank mons to go through.
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In that case I'll pick up Dugtrio and Dewgong to speed up that process if thats alright with you (my other 5 analysis from adv nu are all in qc just waiting for oglemi).
 
Jellicent said:
Mighty Rising Ace, do you still plan on doing BW Exca? We do need to get that analysis up, so I'm just gonna give it to Zard if you don't respond soon.
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Actually yeah just give it to Zard. I got some feedback on the Zoroark a while ago. The thread was sooooo idle I completely forgot I reserved it. Please advise what do I do with my Zoro analysis btw from now on.
 
BTW I want to add a nasty plot set for crobat BW UU. Crobat managed to get nasty plot via egg and it actually has it's share of niche moments. I hope I can work on that.
 
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