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I walk around, I'm sufferin' in my doom
When I come to you, you're sittin' in your room
You sit around in the strangest place (hee, hee, hee)
So take off the mask so I can see your face
The first downloadable content of Scarlet & Violet, the Teal Mask, is around the corner! It is projected to be released on September 13th, and we believe Showdown will updated that day. With the DLC comes new Pokémon and new movesets for existing Pokémon, which will surely change up the Doubles OU metagame. While we can’t be 100% certain of what’s to come, here’s what we expect based off what we’ve heard thus far.
We’re expecting that the below Pokémon will be returning to SV DOU:
Ekans
Arbok
Cleffa
Clefairy
Clefable
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Vulpix
Ninetails
Poliwag
Poliwhirl
Poliwrath
Politoed
Bellossom
Muchlax
Snorlax
Sentret
Furret
Hoothoot
Noctowl
Aipom
Ambipom
Yanma
Yanmega
Gligar
Gliscor
Smeargle
Swinub
Piloswine
Mamoswine
Poochyena
Mightyena
Seedot
Nuzleaf
Shiftry
Corphish
Crawdaunt
Chingling
Chimecho
Feebas
Milotic
Phantump
Trevenant
Grubbin
Charjabug
Vikavolt
Jangmo-o
Hakamo-o
Kommo-o
Cramorant
Arbok
Cleffa
Clefairy
Clefable
Oddish
Gloom
Vileplume
Vulpix
Ninetails
Poliwag
Poliwhirl
Poliwrath
Politoed
Bellossom
Muchlax
Snorlax
Sentret
Furret
Hoothoot
Noctowl
Aipom
Ambipom
Yanma
Yanmega
Gligar
Gliscor
Smeargle
Swinub
Piloswine
Mamoswine
Poochyena
Mightyena
Seedot
Nuzleaf
Shiftry
Corphish
Crawdaunt
Chingling
Chimecho
Feebas
Milotic
Phantump
Trevenant
Grubbin
Charjabug
Vikavolt
Jangmo-o
Hakamo-o
Kommo-o
Cramorant
Then we expect the following new Pokémon to be joining the metagame.
Ursaluna (Blood Moon)
Dipplin
Poltchageist (unremarkable)
Poltchageist (masterpiece)
Sinistcha (unremarkable)
Sinistcha (masterpiece)
Okidogi
Munkidori
Fezandipiti
Ogerpon
Ogerpon (Teal Mask)
Ogerpon (Wellspring Mask)
Ogerpon (Heartflame Mask)
Ogerpon (Cornstone Mask)
Dipplin
Poltchageist (unremarkable)
Poltchageist (masterpiece)
Sinistcha (unremarkable)
Sinistcha (masterpiece)
Okidogi
Munkidori
Fezandipiti
Ogerpon
Ogerpon (Teal Mask)
Ogerpon (Wellspring Mask)
Ogerpon (Heartflame Mask)
Ogerpon (Cornstone Mask)
As always, when there’s a new batch of Pokémon entering the metagame, this will require rapid tiering. So the DOU Council will follow Smogon Tiering Policy and have all new Pokemon to SV (excluding cover legends) start as Doubles OU eligible. However, Pokémon that were previously banned in SV DOU will remain banned.
It is currently our understanding that none of the new Pokémon are cover legends (similar to the Isle of Armor DLC in SS). So that means that every Pokémon coming will be Doubles OU eligible. Before the downloadable content is released, the Doubles Council will hold a quickban vote slate to determine the fate of two groups of pokemon/abilities:
1. Pokémon or abilities that were banned in SV DOU before the DLC in the current metagame. These Pokémon will start in Doubles Ubers, and in order to be eligible in Doubles OU, they must get a 2/3 supermajority council vote to drop to Doubles OU.
2. Pokémon that are joining SV via DLC, but were banned in previous generations. These Pokémon will start in Doubles OU, and they must get a 2/3 supermajority council vote to be banned from Doubles OU.
Following that, there will be 3 quickban vote slates to try to quickly react to metagame changes and remove overpowered pokemon from the metagame.
- The first will occur on September the 17th, and only Pokémon included on the pre-home slate will be included.*
- The second will occur on September the 24th, and new Pokémon in the DLC will be eligible to be included. Pokémon included on the pre-home slate will also be included.
- The last will occur on October the 1st. In this slate, all Pokémon included on the previous slate will be voted on.
* There is some debate over the stats and status of the Ogerpon mask forms, and there is a chance that these Pokémon will be included on the first slate on the 17th. The council will decide this based on community sentiment, so please post on this thread if you’d like for those Pokémon to be included in that slate.
This thread will be where all announcements regarding tiering decisions will be posted. This is also the thread that should be used for discussion of the post-DLC SV DOU metagame. The council would love to hear your input regarding how the new Pokemon will affect the metagame. We're looking forward to this new metagame and the discussion that follows!