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Tournament NFEPL VII - Post Tournament Thread
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NFEPL may have been over but NFE sure as hell isn't. I'd like to dump some teams to give players a fresh look at my building process and how I piloted teams across the meta.
W1 v. FadedCharm (W)
When scouting, I couldn't find any games that they played in prior metas. A quick look at games outside NFE Indicated to me that there was a decent mix between defensive teams and offensive ones, leaning towards the latter. I also knew they were getting support from Shing that would greatly influence building. From discord and battle discussions, Shing was a big TSpikes advocate, and a lot of hazard removal had important flaws. Sticky Web teams were super cool as they were among the few ways to slow Electabuzz down, and my teammates would be much more threatening. While Piloswine and Misdreavus were standard, as was Fraxure to an extent, Pignite was something I've been innovating more recently. Having the role compression of checking Grasses while offensively pressuring Piloswine and Dunsparce made it arguably the star role of the team, and the only thing that outsped this was Electabuzz and Drakloak. Ivysaur setting sun itself meant it could be far less passive than its defensive set, though it was much shakier outside the weather. It was also my team's best answer to Servine, which could take advantage of Webs with Contrary and spread Glares all over my team. Outside of the Misdreavus matchup, the game went very solidly and was happy to start off well here.
W2 v. TTK (L)
I was really happy to have came up with the idea of Grimer-Alola, as it manages to do so well against the new trend of having Piloswine + Misdreavus + Grass-type on a team. Having STAB Knock Off is already a boon, but Poison Touch to further ruin Piloswine makes it even more appealing. Unfortunately, I played too liberally with Servine at the beginning, which was quite punishing on my Servine's misses, and outside Hattrem the team struggled heavily against Ivysaur, which is a Pokemon that has been trending heavily upwards in the absence of NFE titans like Roselia and Golbat. I was also unprepared against fellow trend Frogadier, whose Specs-coverage moves meant Grimer-A could also be overwhelmed by the amount of special attackers, grasses, and Missy that it was supposed to check. The last straw was Misdreavus taking the brunt for Knock Off - due to my Electabuzz lacking Psychic, it was difficult to meaningfully damage it outside of lucky paralyses. This wouldn't be the first time I'd encounter an Ivysaur, however...
W3 v. Thiago Nunes (L)
I was hyped using Thwackey. Opposing Piloswine was 100% the matchup to fear because outside a specific Hattrem spread to beat it I was easily prone to being overwhelmed by it, so I was relieved on preview Piloswine wasn't there. During the building process, I wanted to shake things up with Piloswine with Choice Band for its incredible switching capabilities, especially when mixing in Knock Off support from Thwackey, Vullaby, Electabuzz, and Grimer-A, as well as Nuzzle support from Hattrem. Grimer-A I decided to give Shadow Sneak to throw in as a last-ditch tool. Vullaby was pretty much my physical wall outside of Piloswine. Unfortunately, my enemy Ivysaur showed up for another week to torment me. I forgot Psychic on Electabuzz again and this cost me dearly late-game, and when combined with the critical hit late-game it was another disappointing week for me. Nevertheless, I learned that Ivysaur was a rising trend and should be accounted for in the builder.
W4 v. lepton (W) 
Double Dragons! I noticed a lack of Clefairy and Tinkatuff being present in games, coupled with Steel-type usage being rare and Piloswine tending to wear down quickly. I seeked to take advantage of a nearly unresisted type, while also tacking in defensive benefits like elemental resists. Fraxure and Dragonair completed a great core - Fraxure would punch most of the holes through the early stages of the game with its power, whereas Dragonair would tidy up end-game with Extreme Speed. While Piloswine's low Speed makes it a suboptimal sweeper, I used Curse to strengthen the mirror matchup and avoid potential unlucky misses with Icicle Crash, which eased Dragonair's task of setting up. Specs Frogadier essentially was a Water/Ice breaker too, and tends to be far more proactive at cleaning/breaking than other Water-types. Glimmet was fantastic at keeping the offensive momentum up with hazards, and Double Dance Girafarig is one of the scariest threats late-game too. My goal throughout the match was guessing the right Wartortle and Monferno sets. Setting up the Toxic Spikes from Glimmet was crucial in baiting and weakening Wartortle, and allowed my Piloswine to set up a curse and wreak havoc mid-game. The end-game was a bit trickier, as Specs Frogadier wasn't strong enough to KO a chipped Electabuzz, so I took a bit of a gamble and relied on Dragonair to clean up late-game. I was a bit fortunate that lepton didn't send out Electabuzz to sacrifice to hope for paralysis in the final turns, but overall, I was happy to come across a solid matchup for the Dragons.
W5 v. Mirbro (W) 
Initially wanting to run with Flame Orb Misdreavus, after scouting through seasonal replays and his W1 game I decided to tackle some observations that went through my head: there was consistent use in Electabuzz, Piloswine, and a Water-type, which was followed closely by Koffing. One of the best ways to tackle all of these matchups was having Thwackey, which checked Electabuzz, can beat a sufficiently weakened Piloswine late-game, and crippled Koffing around for my teammates to check. I then chose to run with Gabite as my Ground-type/Volt Switch immunity, since not only had I used Piloswine pretty frequently, but I needed a more reliable Electabuzz answer and a better Thwackey matchup. Outside of seasonals I hadn't used Clefairy at all, and ran with a standard utility sets that had could avoid the 2HKO from Piloswine while still being an effective mixed (and even special) wall. Night Shade damage was super spammable considering the recovery nerfs this generation. Mareanie and Misdreavus helped patch up Fire-type matchups and provide general utility with status, and gave Girafarig Choice Specs for breaking power. One of my biggest obstacles throughout the game was to tackle the Tinkatuff matchup, as outside Gabite my team lacked a clean way of dealing with it, and Clefairy's consistent Night Shade usage helped Gabite break through walls early/mid-game and Giraf to polish up late-game. The scariest part was the Thwackey late-game (as I found out, Mareanie's damage output was terrible even when super effective), but Gabite was fortunately healthy enough to trade with it and allowed my Girafarig to perform clean-up duty.
Semis v. Dragonillis (W) 
Once again, I came up with an idea and didn't like it in tests. In this case, hazard stack was my original goal. However, most of our Spikes users were frail (Frogadier, Glimmet), passive (Quilladin, Toedscool, Carkol), or abysmal (Sandshrew and pretty much everything else). Dragon Spam teams didn't work out very well either due to them being frailer than I expected. Shing passed some teams for testing and I enjoyed using this particular one. Bulky Thwackey is a bit interesting since it can afford to spam Knock Off against Grass-types and Piloswine easier. Band Combusken is an underrated set that highlights how many threats it forces out with its dual STAB combination. While the trio of Piloswine, Electabuzz, and Wartortle was relatively standard (I changed physical Wart to special last-minute), this specific lure Tinkatuff set was pretty awesome. Typically, Grounds like Gabite and Piloswine can switch in against standard defensive sets with impunity. They don't really mind Knock Off and can easily set up Stealth Rock against it. However, offensive Air Balloon sets completely flips the matchup on them - now, Piloswine gets annihilated after Knock Off + max SpA Steel Beam and Gabite with Ice Hammer! This set took out a key progress maker and while this team struggled with Quaxwell after Tinkatuff traded with Piloswine, eventually, Wartortle was able to weaken the duck enough so Combusken can break late-game.
Finals v. sleid (W)
When scouting for sleid's teams for PL and seasonal, I noticed the majority of teams lacked Psychic resistances, which is really good considering that Tinkatuff is still a solid wall that could be annoying at various points. During tests, I originally slated myself to go with Boots Frogadier for the freedom to switch between moves, but my team was super weak to Combusken and struggled against opposing hazard users. I went with Scarf Frog to compensate while outspeeding Electabuzz. Ivysaur was SpD for a better Electabuzz, Frogadier, and Wartortle matchup. Swords Dance Gabite was to break through all but the bulkiest walls at +2, and Misdreavus was the team's physical wall to deal with Piloswine. Thief was neat in case my Misdreavus got Knocked by Thwackey or Ivysaur. When playing the set, I traded my Misdreavus for Specs Sliggoo to prevent it from ruining Ivysaur, and while my Electabuzz was fortunate to avoid the Scale Shot miss from the Gabite and knock his Elecetabuzz, I was prepared to revenge with my Scarf Frogadier in case things did go astray. My Gabite helped break his Quaxwell down mid-game, and from there it was only a matter of Specs Girafarig taking a piece of his defensive core and Ivysaur helping stonewall the rest of his team.
I'd like to give shoutouts to my teammates Adhiraj8202 mh Shing Quagg and IoSonoNeon Lostmemories zastra for helping test teams throughout the weeks and The Strap Leni for giving me constructive planning and tips for my games. All of you offered very much appreciated support. These feedback gave me a lot to learn from and I look forward to playing more NFE in the future!
W1 v. FadedCharm (W)
When scouting, I couldn't find any games that they played in prior metas. A quick look at games outside NFE Indicated to me that there was a decent mix between defensive teams and offensive ones, leaning towards the latter. I also knew they were getting support from Shing that would greatly influence building. From discord and battle discussions, Shing was a big TSpikes advocate, and a lot of hazard removal had important flaws. Sticky Web teams were super cool as they were among the few ways to slow Electabuzz down, and my teammates would be much more threatening. While Piloswine and Misdreavus were standard, as was Fraxure to an extent, Pignite was something I've been innovating more recently. Having the role compression of checking Grasses while offensively pressuring Piloswine and Dunsparce made it arguably the star role of the team, and the only thing that outsped this was Electabuzz and Drakloak. Ivysaur setting sun itself meant it could be far less passive than its defensive set, though it was much shakier outside the weather. It was also my team's best answer to Servine, which could take advantage of Webs with Contrary and spread Glares all over my team. Outside of the Misdreavus matchup, the game went very solidly and was happy to start off well here.
W2 v. TTK (L)
I was really happy to have came up with the idea of Grimer-Alola, as it manages to do so well against the new trend of having Piloswine + Misdreavus + Grass-type on a team. Having STAB Knock Off is already a boon, but Poison Touch to further ruin Piloswine makes it even more appealing. Unfortunately, I played too liberally with Servine at the beginning, which was quite punishing on my Servine's misses, and outside Hattrem the team struggled heavily against Ivysaur, which is a Pokemon that has been trending heavily upwards in the absence of NFE titans like Roselia and Golbat. I was also unprepared against fellow trend Frogadier, whose Specs-coverage moves meant Grimer-A could also be overwhelmed by the amount of special attackers, grasses, and Missy that it was supposed to check. The last straw was Misdreavus taking the brunt for Knock Off - due to my Electabuzz lacking Psychic, it was difficult to meaningfully damage it outside of lucky paralyses. This wouldn't be the first time I'd encounter an Ivysaur, however...
W3 v. Thiago Nunes (L)
I was hyped using Thwackey. Opposing Piloswine was 100% the matchup to fear because outside a specific Hattrem spread to beat it I was easily prone to being overwhelmed by it, so I was relieved on preview Piloswine wasn't there. During the building process, I wanted to shake things up with Piloswine with Choice Band for its incredible switching capabilities, especially when mixing in Knock Off support from Thwackey, Vullaby, Electabuzz, and Grimer-A, as well as Nuzzle support from Hattrem. Grimer-A I decided to give Shadow Sneak to throw in as a last-ditch tool. Vullaby was pretty much my physical wall outside of Piloswine. Unfortunately, my enemy Ivysaur showed up for another week to torment me. I forgot Psychic on Electabuzz again and this cost me dearly late-game, and when combined with the critical hit late-game it was another disappointing week for me. Nevertheless, I learned that Ivysaur was a rising trend and should be accounted for in the builder.
W4 v. lepton (W)
Double Dragons! I noticed a lack of Clefairy and Tinkatuff being present in games, coupled with Steel-type usage being rare and Piloswine tending to wear down quickly. I seeked to take advantage of a nearly unresisted type, while also tacking in defensive benefits like elemental resists. Fraxure and Dragonair completed a great core - Fraxure would punch most of the holes through the early stages of the game with its power, whereas Dragonair would tidy up end-game with Extreme Speed. While Piloswine's low Speed makes it a suboptimal sweeper, I used Curse to strengthen the mirror matchup and avoid potential unlucky misses with Icicle Crash, which eased Dragonair's task of setting up. Specs Frogadier essentially was a Water/Ice breaker too, and tends to be far more proactive at cleaning/breaking than other Water-types. Glimmet was fantastic at keeping the offensive momentum up with hazards, and Double Dance Girafarig is one of the scariest threats late-game too. My goal throughout the match was guessing the right Wartortle and Monferno sets. Setting up the Toxic Spikes from Glimmet was crucial in baiting and weakening Wartortle, and allowed my Piloswine to set up a curse and wreak havoc mid-game. The end-game was a bit trickier, as Specs Frogadier wasn't strong enough to KO a chipped Electabuzz, so I took a bit of a gamble and relied on Dragonair to clean up late-game. I was a bit fortunate that lepton didn't send out Electabuzz to sacrifice to hope for paralysis in the final turns, but overall, I was happy to come across a solid matchup for the Dragons.
W5 v. Mirbro (W)
Initially wanting to run with Flame Orb Misdreavus, after scouting through seasonal replays and his W1 game I decided to tackle some observations that went through my head: there was consistent use in Electabuzz, Piloswine, and a Water-type, which was followed closely by Koffing. One of the best ways to tackle all of these matchups was having Thwackey, which checked Electabuzz, can beat a sufficiently weakened Piloswine late-game, and crippled Koffing around for my teammates to check. I then chose to run with Gabite as my Ground-type/Volt Switch immunity, since not only had I used Piloswine pretty frequently, but I needed a more reliable Electabuzz answer and a better Thwackey matchup. Outside of seasonals I hadn't used Clefairy at all, and ran with a standard utility sets that had could avoid the 2HKO from Piloswine while still being an effective mixed (and even special) wall. Night Shade damage was super spammable considering the recovery nerfs this generation. Mareanie and Misdreavus helped patch up Fire-type matchups and provide general utility with status, and gave Girafarig Choice Specs for breaking power. One of my biggest obstacles throughout the game was to tackle the Tinkatuff matchup, as outside Gabite my team lacked a clean way of dealing with it, and Clefairy's consistent Night Shade usage helped Gabite break through walls early/mid-game and Giraf to polish up late-game. The scariest part was the Thwackey late-game (as I found out, Mareanie's damage output was terrible even when super effective), but Gabite was fortunately healthy enough to trade with it and allowed my Girafarig to perform clean-up duty.
Semis v. Dragonillis (W)
Once again, I came up with an idea and didn't like it in tests. In this case, hazard stack was my original goal. However, most of our Spikes users were frail (Frogadier, Glimmet), passive (Quilladin, Toedscool, Carkol), or abysmal (Sandshrew and pretty much everything else). Dragon Spam teams didn't work out very well either due to them being frailer than I expected. Shing passed some teams for testing and I enjoyed using this particular one. Bulky Thwackey is a bit interesting since it can afford to spam Knock Off against Grass-types and Piloswine easier. Band Combusken is an underrated set that highlights how many threats it forces out with its dual STAB combination. While the trio of Piloswine, Electabuzz, and Wartortle was relatively standard (I changed physical Wart to special last-minute), this specific lure Tinkatuff set was pretty awesome. Typically, Grounds like Gabite and Piloswine can switch in against standard defensive sets with impunity. They don't really mind Knock Off and can easily set up Stealth Rock against it. However, offensive Air Balloon sets completely flips the matchup on them - now, Piloswine gets annihilated after Knock Off + max SpA Steel Beam and Gabite with Ice Hammer! This set took out a key progress maker and while this team struggled with Quaxwell after Tinkatuff traded with Piloswine, eventually, Wartortle was able to weaken the duck enough so Combusken can break late-game.
Finals v. sleid (W)
When scouting for sleid's teams for PL and seasonal, I noticed the majority of teams lacked Psychic resistances, which is really good considering that Tinkatuff is still a solid wall that could be annoying at various points. During tests, I originally slated myself to go with Boots Frogadier for the freedom to switch between moves, but my team was super weak to Combusken and struggled against opposing hazard users. I went with Scarf Frog to compensate while outspeeding Electabuzz. Ivysaur was SpD for a better Electabuzz, Frogadier, and Wartortle matchup. Swords Dance Gabite was to break through all but the bulkiest walls at +2, and Misdreavus was the team's physical wall to deal with Piloswine. Thief was neat in case my Misdreavus got Knocked by Thwackey or Ivysaur. When playing the set, I traded my Misdreavus for Specs Sliggoo to prevent it from ruining Ivysaur, and while my Electabuzz was fortunate to avoid the Scale Shot miss from the Gabite and knock his Elecetabuzz, I was prepared to revenge with my Scarf Frogadier in case things did go astray. My Gabite helped break his Quaxwell down mid-game, and from there it was only a matter of Specs Girafarig taking a piece of his defensive core and Ivysaur helping stonewall the rest of his team.
I'd like to give shoutouts to my teammates Adhiraj8202 mh Shing Quagg and IoSonoNeon Lostmemories zastra for helping test teams throughout the weeks and The Strap Leni for giving me constructive planning and tips for my games. All of you offered very much appreciated support. These feedback gave me a lot to learn from and I look forward to playing more NFE in the future!
Dear Smogon community,
It's with a heavy heart and a lot of reflection during these weeks that I announce my retirement from this beloved forum. This decision wasn't easy to make but after much thought I believe it's time for me to step back. Throughout the years Smogon and Pokèmon per sè has been more than just a platform for battling it was my virtual home where I've met some of the most passionate people and forged friendships that transcended the digital world. The debates after a battle (which i still find them pointless to make, cause once a battle is over, it's just done you can't change its outcome), the strategies, and even the occasional dramas, every moment here has been enriching.
I remember starting out as a novice barely understanding IVs and EVs then getting taught by Dbasso and now, thanks to this community I've had the joy of reaching heights I once thought not quite possible. The thrill of each battle, the rigor of team building, and the satisfaction of contributing to the suspects and the badges has been quite the thrill. However as all journeys have their end so does mine in this community. Life's responsibilities have grown and I find myself unable to dedicate the time and energy that this activity deserves it's only fair that I step aside and make room for the new generation of trainers who I'm confident will continue to drive this community forward. Thank you to everyone who's supported me debated with me and taught me and tolerated me. While I might be retiring from active participation my spirit will always be a part of Smogon and i look forward to seeing how the community evolves and I promise to drop by and cheer from the sidelines.
SIKE, imma do this till im 90
It's with a heavy heart and a lot of reflection during these weeks that I announce my retirement from this beloved forum. This decision wasn't easy to make but after much thought I believe it's time for me to step back. Throughout the years Smogon and Pokèmon per sè has been more than just a platform for battling it was my virtual home where I've met some of the most passionate people and forged friendships that transcended the digital world. The debates after a battle (which i still find them pointless to make, cause once a battle is over, it's just done you can't change its outcome), the strategies, and even the occasional dramas, every moment here has been enriching.
I remember starting out as a novice barely understanding IVs and EVs then getting taught by Dbasso and now, thanks to this community I've had the joy of reaching heights I once thought not quite possible. The thrill of each battle, the rigor of team building, and the satisfaction of contributing to the suspects and the badges has been quite the thrill. However as all journeys have their end so does mine in this community. Life's responsibilities have grown and I find myself unable to dedicate the time and energy that this activity deserves it's only fair that I step aside and make room for the new generation of trainers who I'm confident will continue to drive this community forward. Thank you to everyone who's supported me debated with me and taught me and tolerated me. While I might be retiring from active participation my spirit will always be a part of Smogon and i look forward to seeing how the community evolves and I promise to drop by and cheer from the sidelines.
SIKE, imma do this till im 90
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As i'm writing this right after my game vs The Strap, i do regret how i've played this last game and i did disappoint not only myself but also my team in my plays, but i absolutely do not regret signing up for this tournament, hell nah, i had so much fun playing, building, and talking with my fellow qwonks from beginning to end, this tournament was a very valuable experience to me. Before this tournament i've had a 3 month break because i felt like competitive stuff were going too much in my head and i no longer had fun since i focussed so much on winning my games, but this tournament proved me that i don't have to get into my head that much for a tournament, this is just a game and if we don't have fun why bother playing? I feel like i'm already learning a lot from this, and unlike before i am not sad of not winning this tournament, i'm very proud of what i've done and i had a lot of fun so that all that matters.
Anyway i'd like to thanks some people that made this tournament incredibly fun, beginning with:
BloodAce skrimps Thank you guys for drafting me, you drafted an amazing team, the mood of the team was amazing all season long, i've met all these amazing people thanks to you (and you are included in "amazing people") you did a great job as managers and i'm excited to see you manage again in the future
LustfulLice Thiago Nunes Ty for the time you did spend reading all my stuff and trying to actually understand the tier & the teams i did for you, you are both amazing players as well as being very nice people which i feel like is more and more rare so it's been really refreshing to work with people as nice as you guys
Miyami~~~ seth hidin ty guys for carrying SM & ND, this was so fun to see you play these tiers all season long, truly goats of SM & ND NFE (you should write it on your resume imo)
big tony 2014 BP Ty guys for the cheers and stuff, both of you are so funny and it's been such a pleasure to be around with you, you really proved that you don't have to know the tier or be a player to be useful in a team, you were valuable teammates of the qwonks just by talking and constantly cheering for the team, this was wonderful to see
sleid Dude thank you so much for carrying your slot alone this tournament, this unfortunately didn't show by the results in the regular phase of the tournament but you truly prevented my brain from exploding LOL, this was very fun talking to you and that clutch week 5 will not be forgotten my king
Ty qwonks all of you were super nice and i wish you all the best of luck and hopefully we'll meet again in the future!
Also Quagg Shing ty for the valuable help you brought me the entire tournament just by doing friendlies with me, i've had so much fun playing with you and discovering new techs and stuff
And of course, huge shoutout to our hosts Fc & Concept you did a great job at hosting this NFEPL and without you it would not even have happened, so thank you so much
Anyway i'd like to thanks some people that made this tournament incredibly fun, beginning with:
BloodAce skrimps Thank you guys for drafting me, you drafted an amazing team, the mood of the team was amazing all season long, i've met all these amazing people thanks to you (and you are included in "amazing people") you did a great job as managers and i'm excited to see you manage again in the future
LustfulLice Thiago Nunes Ty for the time you did spend reading all my stuff and trying to actually understand the tier & the teams i did for you, you are both amazing players as well as being very nice people which i feel like is more and more rare so it's been really refreshing to work with people as nice as you guys
Miyami~~~ seth hidin ty guys for carrying SM & ND, this was so fun to see you play these tiers all season long, truly goats of SM & ND NFE (you should write it on your resume imo)
big tony 2014 BP Ty guys for the cheers and stuff, both of you are so funny and it's been such a pleasure to be around with you, you really proved that you don't have to know the tier or be a player to be useful in a team, you were valuable teammates of the qwonks just by talking and constantly cheering for the team, this was wonderful to see
sleid Dude thank you so much for carrying your slot alone this tournament, this unfortunately didn't show by the results in the regular phase of the tournament but you truly prevented my brain from exploding LOL, this was very fun talking to you and that clutch week 5 will not be forgotten my king
Ty qwonks
all of you were super nice and i wish you all the best of luck and hopefully we'll meet again in the future!Also Quagg Shing ty for the valuable help you brought me the entire tournament just by doing friendlies with me, i've had so much fun playing with you and discovering new techs and stuff
And of course, huge shoutout to our hosts Fc & Concept you did a great job at hosting this NFEPL and without you it would not even have happened, so thank you so much
No explanations too lazy
Week 1 LustfulLice vs Fragments (Win) 
Week 1 Thiago Nunes vs feen (Win) 
Week 2 LustfulLice vs Nashrock (Win) 
Week 2 Thiago Nunes vs Lyna (Win)
Week 3 LustfulLice vs Stareal (Lose)
Week 3 Thiago Nunes vs 5Dots (Win)
Week 4 LustfulLice vs Dragonillis (Lose)
Week 4 Big Tony 2014 vs dunoks (Lose)
Week 5 Sleid vs justdrew (Win)
Week 5 LustfulLice vs Quagg (Lose) 
Week 5 Thiago Nunes vs King Leo V (Lose)
Finale Sleid vs 5Dots (Lose)
Finale LustfulLice vs mh (Win)
Finale Thiago Nunes vs Stareal (Deadgame) 
Week 1 LustfulLice vs Fragments (Win)
Week 1 Thiago Nunes vs feen (Win)
Week 2 LustfulLice vs Nashrock (Win)
Week 2 Thiago Nunes vs Lyna (Win)
Week 3 LustfulLice vs Stareal (Lose)
Week 3 Thiago Nunes vs 5Dots (Win)
Week 4 LustfulLice vs Dragonillis (Lose)
Week 4 Big Tony 2014 vs dunoks (Lose)
Week 5 Sleid vs justdrew (Win)
Week 5 LustfulLice vs Quagg (Lose)
Week 5 Thiago Nunes vs King Leo V (Lose)
Finale Sleid vs 5Dots (Lose)
Finale LustfulLice vs mh (Win)
Finale Thiago Nunes vs Stareal (Deadgame)
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Short and simple as usual
Week 1
https://pokepast.es/ec445ed54db74693
Week 2
https://pokepast.es/33627eafd27f3be0
Week 3
https://pokepast.es/cf6691efeb7df8f3
Week 4
https://pokepast.es/8d8805466d2afcdc (i should not have brang this LOL, the worst of all the teams I brought)
Week 5
https://pokepast.es/5da7acfb61c7e49c
Semis
https://pokepast.es/446800805505fa9d
Finals
https://pokepast.es/e23dee7e765aca69 (was going to bring this but didnt need to play)
All built by myself and I
Be back in umpl
Week 1
https://pokepast.es/ec445ed54db74693
Week 2
https://pokepast.es/33627eafd27f3be0
Week 3
https://pokepast.es/cf6691efeb7df8f3
Week 4
https://pokepast.es/8d8805466d2afcdc (i should not have brang this LOL, the worst of all the teams I brought)
Week 5
https://pokepast.es/5da7acfb61c7e49c
Semis
https://pokepast.es/446800805505fa9d
Finals
https://pokepast.es/e23dee7e765aca69 (was going to bring this but didnt need to play)
All built by myself and I
Be back in umpl
Few random sets that I pulled off in NatDex NFE that were effective. Won't be sharing teams/other funky sets bcs all of them are made by Velcroc or Shing. They can share them if they're interested. Without longer speech:
all in all NatDex NFE as a tier is very unbalanced and most broken and centralizing thing is Electabuzz by a mile. Even more broken than Combusken which thankfully got banned. If you don't run Ebuzz, you're already giving up on builder. There is nothing that switches in safely against it. Access to knock-seismic + z-move is incredibly strong combination with its priviledged speed tier.
Massive kudos to Velcroc and Shing for all their help through the tour
Servine @ Eviolite
Ability: Contrary
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 16 HP / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 30 Atk
- Hidden Power [Psychic]
- Synthesis
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
Pulled this last minute out of the hat before finals game. HP Psych hits Golbat, Roselia and the already banned Combusken. Offensive spread to force an actual progress instead of slower paced bulky set fit here very well.
Ability: Contrary
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 16 HP / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 30 Atk
- Hidden Power [Psychic]
- Synthesis
- Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
Pulled this last minute out of the hat before finals game. HP Psych hits Golbat, Roselia and the already banned Combusken. Offensive spread to force an actual progress instead of slower paced bulky set fit here very well.
Electabuzz @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast
- Seismic Toss
- Knock Off / HP Ice/Grass.
Volt-Focus-Seismic was pretty much in every set, but lat move kept switching every week depending on what we wanted to target. Knock was least used, and only in final game, because seismic toss alone forced every switch in to at least heal and let something in for free to keep pressure up. e: and one point was to not run thunderbolt to have more AoA electabuzz. Double elec move was never needed and waste of a turn to click thunderbolt instead of volt in most scenarios. Seismic into z-focus blast drops Piloswine, and to be fair, it was fun to create illusion early tour that I run only rest-talk electabuzz and then bluff the seism+z-focusblast set. It just shows how versatile and unhealthy this mon can be now that knock off is part of its movepool.
Electabuzz @ Eviolite
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 64 SpD / 192 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Seismic Toss
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Rest-talk is probably one of my favorite ones for simple reason; seismic doing million against everything and volt providing momentum while rest-talk giving longevity that electavuzz usually lacks.
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast
- Seismic Toss
- Knock Off / HP Ice/Grass.
Volt-Focus-Seismic was pretty much in every set, but lat move kept switching every week depending on what we wanted to target. Knock was least used, and only in final game, because seismic toss alone forced every switch in to at least heal and let something in for free to keep pressure up. e: and one point was to not run thunderbolt to have more AoA electabuzz. Double elec move was never needed and waste of a turn to click thunderbolt instead of volt in most scenarios. Seismic into z-focus blast drops Piloswine, and to be fair, it was fun to create illusion early tour that I run only rest-talk electabuzz and then bluff the seism+z-focusblast set. It just shows how versatile and unhealthy this mon can be now that knock off is part of its movepool.
Electabuzz @ Eviolite
Ability: Static
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 HP / 64 SpD / 192 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Seismic Toss
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
Rest-talk is probably one of my favorite ones for simple reason; seismic doing million against everything and volt providing momentum while rest-talk giving longevity that electavuzz usually lacks.
Monferno @ Eviolite
Ability: Iron Fist
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 56 Def / 60 SpD / 144 Spe
Impish Nature
- Slack Off
- Close Combat
- Will-O-Wisp
- Knock Off
Simply to answer Pawn, spread will-o and knock eviolites off. Spread is to beat Piloswine (EQ does less than half after Will-o) and rest in spdef to help against Servine, Ebuzz and friends.
Ability: Iron Fist
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 56 Def / 60 SpD / 144 Spe
Impish Nature
- Slack Off
- Close Combat
- Will-O-Wisp
- Knock Off
Simply to answer Pawn, spread will-o and knock eviolites off. Spread is to beat Piloswine (EQ does less than half after Will-o) and rest in spdef to help against Servine, Ebuzz and friends.
all in all NatDex NFE as a tier is very unbalanced and most broken and centralizing thing is Electabuzz by a mile. Even more broken than Combusken which thankfully got banned. If you don't run Ebuzz, you're already giving up on builder. There is nothing that switches in safely against it. Access to knock-seismic + z-move is incredibly strong combination with its priviledged speed tier.
Massive kudos to Velcroc and Shing for all their help through the tour
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W1 vs Caojie (W)
Mainly just wanted to load frogadier, liked how tox rhyd (its best set btw) lures in quax and puts it on timer for frog to break easier or just uturn out into ebuzz and quickly stack damage. Gurdurr is a terrible defogger but I wanted some form of removal and it does good vs teams w ferro as their grass which are rough mus for frog. Clefairy was glue for ebuzz/ss tort (ss tort is often the biggest problem for frog water teams). Team played well and was a pretty good start
W2 (Raf) vs Leni (L)
Super standard 6 I made, covers most things in the meta and has good offensive outs (mag + ebuzz is terrific core. Not much else to say, very intuitive But in hindsight i wish i went through with hp grass on magmar because i seriously did anticipate marshtomp into me which ended up being very difficult. Also toxtaunt bat would be very annoying asw, overall got a pretty rough mu here, good prep by leni and co.
W3 vs Beleth (W)
Ngl bro I just wanted to bring marshtomp since i figured trolling an ebuzz myself would be very fun, this team is so weird and idk why i brought it but it was fun and won pretty handily. Love ferroseed
Semis vs Leni (W)
Offense was the name of the game this week- mus had to be sacrificed just to enable my 4 hitters. Realized while prepping this week that combusken is broken and ummmm nothing beats combusken especially when its fat as fuck with evio in gterrain lol! Grass z frog always mauled zas scout and Ik he was helping in some capacity. Shing’s pred ab my lack of prio made me wanna use the goat cb thwackey here and combusken happened to fumble on. Golbat/pilo is the best offensive backbone core with rocks + fog but they still have incredibly apparent flaws and pretty much make you need to win early. This team is weak to frogadier and magmar in some capacity, but with 4 breakers, just win first lol! Figured combusken would generally just be a surprising pick and they would be underprepped for it, i also had no golbat so i thought they might try to greed some sort of grass into my scout
Bonus team, undefeated sun
Built for seth w1 cuz he wanted to use sun and since then this team hasnt lost any tour games, its super good and consistent for a sun team. This team was also responsible for my first ND NFE loss in like 10mo wielded by bloodace in ssnl winners finals
Overall, im super satisfied with my performance in ND NFE as a whole, with this tour + NDOTSL bringing my all-time record to 12-1, but I probably wont be touching the tier till next NDOTSL/NFEPL if it makes a return. I think this tier is a lot more skill-based than some may reduce it to rn imo, but there are also flaws/centralizing things. S/o seth for always being down to talk ball about the tier, as well as guys like shing/leni/velc/sorta zas pushing the meta forwards, cya guys around!
Mainly just wanted to load frogadier, liked how tox rhyd (its best set btw) lures in quax and puts it on timer for frog to break easier or just uturn out into ebuzz and quickly stack damage. Gurdurr is a terrible defogger but I wanted some form of removal and it does good vs teams w ferro as their grass which are rough mus for frog. Clefairy was glue for ebuzz/ss tort (ss tort is often the biggest problem for frog water teams). Team played well and was a pretty good start
W2 (Raf) vs Leni (L)
Super standard 6 I made, covers most things in the meta and has good offensive outs (mag + ebuzz is terrific core. Not much else to say, very intuitive But in hindsight i wish i went through with hp grass on magmar because i seriously did anticipate marshtomp into me which ended up being very difficult. Also toxtaunt bat would be very annoying asw, overall got a pretty rough mu here, good prep by leni and co.
W3 vs Beleth (W)
Ngl bro I just wanted to bring marshtomp since i figured trolling an ebuzz myself would be very fun, this team is so weird and idk why i brought it but it was fun and won pretty handily. Love ferroseed
Semis vs Leni (W)
Offense was the name of the game this week- mus had to be sacrificed just to enable my 4 hitters. Realized while prepping this week that combusken is broken and ummmm nothing beats combusken especially when its fat as fuck with evio in gterrain lol! Grass z frog always mauled zas scout and Ik he was helping in some capacity. Shing’s pred ab my lack of prio made me wanna use the goat cb thwackey here and combusken happened to fumble on. Golbat/pilo is the best offensive backbone core with rocks + fog but they still have incredibly apparent flaws and pretty much make you need to win early. This team is weak to frogadier and magmar in some capacity, but with 4 breakers, just win first lol! Figured combusken would generally just be a surprising pick and they would be underprepped for it, i also had no golbat so i thought they might try to greed some sort of grass into my scout
Bonus team, undefeated sun
Built for seth w1 cuz he wanted to use sun and since then this team hasnt lost any tour games, its super good and consistent for a sun team. This team was also responsible for my first ND NFE loss in like 10mo wielded by bloodace in ssnl winners finals
Overall, im super satisfied with my performance in ND NFE as a whole, with this tour + NDOTSL bringing my all-time record to 12-1, but I probably wont be touching the tier till next NDOTSL/NFEPL if it makes a return. I think this tier is a lot more skill-based than some may reduce it to rn imo, but there are also flaws/centralizing things. S/o seth for always being down to talk ball about the tier, as well as guys like shing/leni/velc/sorta zas pushing the meta forwards, cya guys around!
Here are the teams I build through NFEPL for my team, and helping others/them taking my teams. There are no explanations on SV and ND since building in these tiers has been unfun and they don't deserve my time, but I'll gladly make short ones on SS NFE. Extremely huge S/O on Quagg for being a homie and managing with me. We should have been in finals, but sometimes it does be like that. Take it as my first time managing a team tournament because I'm learning a lot from the mistakes I've made tyvm. No regrets about drafting the members even if it didn't go as we planned. Yall were active enough that we had fun discussions outside of mons. I blame myself for not using the time to prep, or having enough tests. That's the biggest mistake to me as a manager as I've gotten into the habit of building things without testing in NFE as a whole. Next time if I am managing I am ready to win.
SV
ND NFE
SS
[EDIT] Forgot to add teams I helped/involved is a huge degree outside of my team.
Ivar's W4 and W5.
Zastra's supposed W5.
Leni's Semis and Finals
5dots's Semis
Mh built most of the team, but just wanna say to the Monferno know that I secured Mh's win in semis no regretsssssssss
I'll explain more in detail on SV NFE meta in the other thread. But to make it short, SV NFE was not enjoyable to figure out, and once I did I just disliked the more I tried to touch SV NFE. I went from covering t-spikes aka Koffing, into people spamming Quax+Pilo cores, into abusing Combusken and Ebuzz w psychic even harder, and teams were hella focused on getting rid of Quaxwell's Eviolite and crippling Tinkatuff to abuse Piloswine and Combusken even harder. In the end, I think the meta has reached an endpoint where you've to use Electabuzz because it makes progress whenever you switch in regardless of any positions. This doesn't help the fact that Gabite and Marshtomp are hindered by Piloswine, Grass mons, and Quaxwell centralization which makes ebuzz not feel like having counters :/.
May post more on the Natdex NFE thread since I have a whole ass rant on the meta, especially after the voting on Ebuzz...
But on to my experience with the tier... It was pain, just pain to approach the tier. I had to visualize and theorize on a tier I wasn't even that interested in to begin with, and getting tests was not particularly easy since most ppl had weird timezones or just couldn't play. I'm pretty sure Sealoo and Velcroc were legit the only players I couldn't even get a test in this whole NFEPL LMAO. I did figure it out(enough in my head) after my team was out since Tlenit asked me for Natdex NFE support for playoffs. I don't hate the tier as I find it very charming in its own way, but I could not stand building the more and more deep rotted I understood how the tier worked. Like ffs I legit built for Zastra for w5 as well since I wanted to. I had some fun despite the issues above, and I found Natdex NFE more enjoyable than SV NFE in the end.
As for the SS NFE meta itself. I love that despite being developed it still feels there's more that can be pushed. Vullaby w U-turn became less used, and it's not a bad set. It's just that Vullaby had more advantages by dropping U-turn. While I still believe that U-turn is extremely good and you don't need Knock Off on Vullaby always, it shows that Vullaby sets can be very customized to make your Wincon stronger. I unironically think that Vullaby could be the best mon in the tier because it just provides so much and has so many expressions that make it viable to the tier. While Piloswine is important, I don't think it's as mandatory as Piloswine-less teams are viable as well and can handle so many matchups on their own. SS NFE is just extremely expressive for both building and in-game. I hope I'll get more opportunities to the tier again, like maybe at some point I'll host some SS NFE tournament with some prize pot??? Not sure since I'm still locked in on leaving/taking a hiatus on comp mons till the end of the year.
Not even sure I'd join UMPL since I am at low interest in mons rn, but if they ban Ebuzz and Combusken that's a maybe. Somehow I'll be involved in UMPL even though I am not joining so y'know lol...
While it was the worst NFEPL performance-wise, It was all worth it in the end when I saw my webs goat Antares get finally in, and even better when he ended up positive in here. Ty so much Lyna for drafting him ;v;
For the shoutouts that it feel appropriate, huge thanks to Concept and Fc for being hosters in this fun team tournament. While there were some technical errors, in the end, I found the tournament ran reasonably well. Appreciate you guys using the time. And lastly, I'm going to thank Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂ for bringing it up again. Without him, NFEPL VII would not have appeared this year, so if you're going to thank someone for reviving it, this is the man responsible for it <3
SV
W1: Simbo(stole it by scouting Lustful's team), FadedCharm
W2: Quagg built all this for me, bless him so much.
W3: Same thing here.
W4: FadedCharm
W5: Justdrew
W2: Quagg built all this for me, bless him so much.
W3: Same thing here.
W4: FadedCharm
W5: Justdrew
ND NFE
W1: Cotta
W2: Beleth
W3: Beleth
W4: Quagg unironically built that one, yes I was just that tilted in Natdex NFE.
W5: CrazyStevy
W2: Beleth
W3: Beleth
W4: Quagg unironically built that one, yes I was just that tilted in Natdex NFE.
W5: CrazyStevy
SS
W1: https://pokepast.es/3bd4cedea25ff18b (Updated it so it's not similar in the replay)
I wanted to build something new vs Skysolo, but this week was the worst time for me to put time on NFEPL as I was focused on a huge event at my FGC local for the weekend + I traveled to another region to meet new people via smash. Stuffed out on Thursday-Sunday, while working on Tuesday/Wednesday. The worst part was that on Sunday my plane was delayed 3 hours later, and I landed just exactly when I was going to play vs Skysolo. Ended up being tilted af and took it from my public pastes. I think it was even worse when I remembered that the public paste was outdated and I remember making changes with Gurdurr/Thwackey some days after the public paste. As for the match, since I was so tilted I didn't play properly as Skysolo's team didn't have good ways to stop v.s my Gurdurr despite it not being able to break Mareanie. I should have just stood in and played super lame vs them, but I was just so frustrated and tired out by irl things that I just mashed till the end. Probably my worst performance, and it hurts it had to be vs Skysolo since I had a little grudge since our match at OMPL. If there will be next time, I want to avoid any dumb factors IRL.
W2: https://pokepast.es/4ffe7da491dc61a5
Prep was that I felt like running Tangela + Lampent as it looked like Ojr didn't have the proper switch-in vs it. While the Lampent was good, bro brought the goddamn 201 Ivysaur + offensive sub Vullaby on me, like I don't think I could realistically win MU. It was just that awful and I didn't use the prep well as I was very aware Ojr builds some wack Vullaby sets and has a disgusting love with Ivysaur in SS NFE.
W3: Game 1, Game 2(Quagg made it)
Felt like building Roselia again as I never pulled her out, but based on the prep I wanted to use Gurdurr and Hattrem as they felt like they were strong against Maybca's current prep. Hatt + Spin Wart is also a very classic hazard removal I always liked in SS NFE, so it let me go wild on the Vullaby set. They pulled some wack shit in G1 and unless I made some really big mistakes, I think the MU was in my favor. Not much else to talk about in g2 because I used Quagg's slowpoke team vs their stall team. Looking at how the team was built, Maybca had a better chance to win over me, but I got bailed extremely hard with Piloswine + paras on their side which made the win easier for me. Hope we can do another bo3 in SS NFE again, you're always a pleasure to play against.
W4: https://pokepast.es/389d48f3096f66f3
Just really felt like building something more defensive vs Fraise's weird teams that he approaches things with Offense differently than most people. I always wanted to explore Klang as an SS NFE mon because I believe it has unexplored potential against the heavy Piloswine+Roselia+Vullaby meta on its own. Toxic + Shift Gear looks extremely powerful against the general team for that reason. It's also one of my favorite SS NFE mon because it's a sweeper that doesn't feel hard to switch in, but it doesn't get truly walled in my eyes. As for the mu, we had similar structures, but it was clear that I had stronger defensive tools while having stronger outbursts vs their teams. It's like the top 3 worst matchup being played in a SS NFE tour match as a whole lol.
W5: Game 1, Game 2
PD outplayed me pretty hard both prep and ingame. My prep was essential since PD has been bringing a lot more slow-paced teams, I wanted to bring the classic slow, but power choice band wallbreaker strat vs them and have something to punish their Roselia sets. However in g1, they brought a way faster-paced team that my team got overwhelmed by, and in g2 they brought Staryu vs my Toxic Metang. The MUs may be difficult, but I think it felt nearly impossible to beat PD at this point as they played the games way ahead and I just crumbled. Not a feeling I'm used to, and I shouldn't be surprised. PD has a nearly identical building style as me, knows my speed creeps and we have played a TON together. It's not hard to say that PD knows me more than most NFE players as we also share similar views on how the meta progresses. I've known PD since they started SS NFE, the same goes with Fraises and Maybca. Which is why I don't feel bad that I lost to them. Maybe a bit disappointed since I wish I could made it a closer match, but I can't help but smile to see the players I knew when they were bad/new beginners and for me being involved to make them a stronger player to eventually see them beat me. I'm glad we could play it out before the tier eventually dies as we all grow up being adults and having to deal with life haha.
I wanted to build something new vs Skysolo, but this week was the worst time for me to put time on NFEPL as I was focused on a huge event at my FGC local for the weekend + I traveled to another region to meet new people via smash. Stuffed out on Thursday-Sunday, while working on Tuesday/Wednesday. The worst part was that on Sunday my plane was delayed 3 hours later, and I landed just exactly when I was going to play vs Skysolo. Ended up being tilted af and took it from my public pastes. I think it was even worse when I remembered that the public paste was outdated and I remember making changes with Gurdurr/Thwackey some days after the public paste. As for the match, since I was so tilted I didn't play properly as Skysolo's team didn't have good ways to stop v.s my Gurdurr despite it not being able to break Mareanie. I should have just stood in and played super lame vs them, but I was just so frustrated and tired out by irl things that I just mashed till the end. Probably my worst performance, and it hurts it had to be vs Skysolo since I had a little grudge since our match at OMPL. If there will be next time, I want to avoid any dumb factors IRL.
W2: https://pokepast.es/4ffe7da491dc61a5
Prep was that I felt like running Tangela + Lampent as it looked like Ojr didn't have the proper switch-in vs it. While the Lampent was good, bro brought the goddamn 201 Ivysaur + offensive sub Vullaby on me, like I don't think I could realistically win MU. It was just that awful and I didn't use the prep well as I was very aware Ojr builds some wack Vullaby sets and has a disgusting love with Ivysaur in SS NFE.
W3: Game 1, Game 2(Quagg made it)
Felt like building Roselia again as I never pulled her out, but based on the prep I wanted to use Gurdurr and Hattrem as they felt like they were strong against Maybca's current prep. Hatt + Spin Wart is also a very classic hazard removal I always liked in SS NFE, so it let me go wild on the Vullaby set. They pulled some wack shit in G1 and unless I made some really big mistakes, I think the MU was in my favor. Not much else to talk about in g2 because I used Quagg's slowpoke team vs their stall team. Looking at how the team was built, Maybca had a better chance to win over me, but I got bailed extremely hard with Piloswine + paras on their side which made the win easier for me. Hope we can do another bo3 in SS NFE again, you're always a pleasure to play against.
W4: https://pokepast.es/389d48f3096f66f3
Just really felt like building something more defensive vs Fraise's weird teams that he approaches things with Offense differently than most people. I always wanted to explore Klang as an SS NFE mon because I believe it has unexplored potential against the heavy Piloswine+Roselia+Vullaby meta on its own. Toxic + Shift Gear looks extremely powerful against the general team for that reason. It's also one of my favorite SS NFE mon because it's a sweeper that doesn't feel hard to switch in, but it doesn't get truly walled in my eyes. As for the mu, we had similar structures, but it was clear that I had stronger defensive tools while having stronger outbursts vs their teams. It's like the top 3 worst matchup being played in a SS NFE tour match as a whole lol.
W5: Game 1, Game 2
PD outplayed me pretty hard both prep and ingame. My prep was essential since PD has been bringing a lot more slow-paced teams, I wanted to bring the classic slow, but power choice band wallbreaker strat vs them and have something to punish their Roselia sets. However in g1, they brought a way faster-paced team that my team got overwhelmed by, and in g2 they brought Staryu vs my Toxic Metang. The MUs may be difficult, but I think it felt nearly impossible to beat PD at this point as they played the games way ahead and I just crumbled. Not a feeling I'm used to, and I shouldn't be surprised. PD has a nearly identical building style as me, knows my speed creeps and we have played a TON together. It's not hard to say that PD knows me more than most NFE players as we also share similar views on how the meta progresses. I've known PD since they started SS NFE, the same goes with Fraises and Maybca. Which is why I don't feel bad that I lost to them. Maybe a bit disappointed since I wish I could made it a closer match, but I can't help but smile to see the players I knew when they were bad/new beginners and for me being involved to make them a stronger player to eventually see them beat me. I'm glad we could play it out before the tier eventually dies as we all grow up being adults and having to deal with life haha.
[EDIT] Forgot to add teams I helped/involved is a huge degree outside of my team.
Ivar's W4 and W5.
Zastra's supposed W5.
Leni's Semis and Finals
5dots's Semis
Mh built most of the team, but just wanna say to the Monferno know that I secured Mh's win in semis no regretsssssssss
I'll explain more in detail on SV NFE meta in the other thread. But to make it short, SV NFE was not enjoyable to figure out, and once I did I just disliked the more I tried to touch SV NFE. I went from covering t-spikes aka Koffing, into people spamming Quax+Pilo cores, into abusing Combusken and Ebuzz w psychic even harder, and teams were hella focused on getting rid of Quaxwell's Eviolite and crippling Tinkatuff to abuse Piloswine and Combusken even harder. In the end, I think the meta has reached an endpoint where you've to use Electabuzz because it makes progress whenever you switch in regardless of any positions. This doesn't help the fact that Gabite and Marshtomp are hindered by Piloswine, Grass mons, and Quaxwell centralization which makes ebuzz not feel like having counters :/.
May post more on the Natdex NFE thread since I have a whole ass rant on the meta, especially after the voting on Ebuzz...
But on to my experience with the tier... It was pain, just pain to approach the tier. I had to visualize and theorize on a tier I wasn't even that interested in to begin with, and getting tests was not particularly easy since most ppl had weird timezones or just couldn't play. I'm pretty sure Sealoo and Velcroc were legit the only players I couldn't even get a test in this whole NFEPL LMAO. I did figure it out(enough in my head) after my team was out since Tlenit asked me for Natdex NFE support for playoffs. I don't hate the tier as I find it very charming in its own way, but I could not stand building the more and more deep rotted I understood how the tier worked. Like ffs I legit built for Zastra for w5 as well since I wanted to. I had some fun despite the issues above, and I found Natdex NFE more enjoyable than SV NFE in the end.
As for the SS NFE meta itself. I love that despite being developed it still feels there's more that can be pushed. Vullaby w U-turn became less used, and it's not a bad set. It's just that Vullaby had more advantages by dropping U-turn. While I still believe that U-turn is extremely good and you don't need Knock Off on Vullaby always, it shows that Vullaby sets can be very customized to make your Wincon stronger. I unironically think that Vullaby could be the best mon in the tier because it just provides so much and has so many expressions that make it viable to the tier. While Piloswine is important, I don't think it's as mandatory as Piloswine-less teams are viable as well and can handle so many matchups on their own. SS NFE is just extremely expressive for both building and in-game. I hope I'll get more opportunities to the tier again, like maybe at some point I'll host some SS NFE tournament with some prize pot??? Not sure since I'm still locked in on leaving/taking a hiatus on comp mons till the end of the year.
Not even sure I'd join UMPL since I am at low interest in mons rn, but if they ban Ebuzz and Combusken that's a maybe. Somehow I'll be involved in UMPL even though I am not joining so y'know lol...
While it was the worst NFEPL performance-wise, It was all worth it in the end when I saw my webs goat Antares get finally in, and even better when he ended up positive in here. Ty so much Lyna for drafting him ;v;
For the shoutouts that it feel appropriate, huge thanks to Concept and Fc for being hosters in this fun team tournament. While there were some technical errors, in the end, I found the tournament ran reasonably well. Appreciate you guys using the time. And lastly, I'm going to thank Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂ for bringing it up again. Without him, NFEPL VII would not have appeared this year, so if you're going to thank someone for reviving it, this is the man responsible for it <3
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First, I would like to give a big Shoot/out for Fc Concept , you guys have been incredibly helpfull, everything went that well with you, much appreciate.
Second I would like to have few words for my friend PandaDoux, you can be proud about your tournament, about your team. we see us very soon my boy !
and now my players
Adhiraj8202 Mada Lostmemories I'm a bit sorry if none of you played, but I really want to thank you for your support when the team needed it. All of you are great players and you already know it, that was a pleasure to get you in the team.
5Dots you were the first player I wanted when we did our plans, you are absolute cracked player and your passion for this tier was a real value for the team
Stareal You are the mvp of the tournament, there no contestation possible on this. You have been the key of our success, it was an honnor for me to be your manager.
mh maybe that was not your best tournament, but you've won some really important and crucials games when the teams needed it.
The Strap, you know exactly how much I think you are great, and you prooved it during this tournament, that was real good to have a player like you on my side.
gorex I bought you 2 times. I've won 2 times.not a lot more to say, except that i have found my lucky charm
Leni Velcroc I had guys to tag you together causet he succes we had in this slot would not have been possible with your amazing job together. insanely insane
to finish, I wanted to mention my boy IoSonoNeon, Things worked that well since the beginning, since I came to offer you my services, now that this first title came from our first shot together, let's see bigger !
Also shout/out for my boys haxlolo GeniusFromHoenn for absolutly no reason.
Second I would like to have few words for my friend PandaDoux, you can be proud about your tournament, about your team. we see us very soon my boy !
and now my players
Adhiraj8202 Mada Lostmemories I'm a bit sorry if none of you played, but I really want to thank you for your support when the team needed it. All of you are great players and you already know it, that was a pleasure to get you in the team.
5Dots you were the first player I wanted when we did our plans, you are absolute cracked player and your passion for this tier was a real value for the team
Stareal You are the mvp of the tournament, there no contestation possible on this. You have been the key of our success, it was an honnor for me to be your manager.
mh maybe that was not your best tournament, but you've won some really important and crucials games when the teams needed it.
The Strap, you know exactly how much I think you are great, and you prooved it during this tournament, that was real good to have a player like you on my side.
gorex I bought you 2 times. I've won 2 times.not a lot more to say, except that i have found my lucky charm
Leni Velcroc I had guys to tag you together causet he succes we had in this slot would not have been possible with your amazing job together. insanely insane
to finish, I wanted to mention my boy IoSonoNeon, Things worked that well since the beginning, since I came to offer you my services, now that this first title came from our first shot together, let's see bigger !
Also shout/out for my boys haxlolo GeniusFromHoenn for absolutly no reason.