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SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon
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If the mythical was event only for a single game, it is a mythical until the pokemon company says otherwise. Its just that simple. Keldeo and deoxys are as mythical as phione is, until they say "no theyre legendaries actually" or something.
And i would classify zoroark as a mythical since it fullfills the same simple terms, but thats another topic
As of right now it's a Mythical. If they ever have wild Phione available then I'll maybe reconsider, but as of right now it's a Mythical.
Because you can breed as many Phione as you want, so if they evolved into Manaphy you'd have access to as many Manaphy as you want; would lose some specialness about it.
While I don't think we should have a way to permanently evolve a Phione or Carbink into a Manaphy or Diancie, respectively, I think it would be a fun idea if there was a way to have them temporarily take the shape of their "Mythical Forms". Give us a blue Diancie and a blue-instead-of-yellow spotted Manaphy.
But you can catch Zorua and Zoroark in the wild, as many as you want. They're no more Mythical than Riolu and Lucario.
So I just noticed something... strange for pure Dark-type Pokémon.
All but one pure Dark-type Pokémon are either feline (Alolan Meowth, Poochyena, and Purrloin lines, Absol... and Umbreon?) or canine (Zorua and Nickit lines. Maybe Umbreon as well?).
The only exception is Darkrai.
(And as something likely unintentional, not counting Mega Absol, there are exactly 13 pure Dark-type Pokémon)
All but one pure Dark-type Pokémon are either feline (Alolan Meowth, Poochyena, and Purrloin lines, Absol... and Umbreon?) or canine (Zorua and Nickit lines. Maybe Umbreon as well?).
The only exception is Darkrai.
(And as something likely unintentional, not counting Mega Absol, there are exactly 13 pure Dark-type Pokémon)
Eh, I guess they figured for com mons pure Dark-types would only manifest as an animal (specifically animal associated with sinister characteristics) meanwhile for the pure Dark-type Mythical a more abstract concept would be more interesting.
I think that's coincidence since it took them 8 gens to get there (plus two of the Dark-types are Regional Variants). Maybe if by Gen XIII we have 13 pure Dark-type families I'll think they would have done it intentionally. That reminds me, whatever happened to Karxrida?
Diancie is Mega Carbink, and Mega Diancie is Giga Carbink.
Meowth and Purrloin are cats. Zorua, Nickit, and Umbreon are all foxes. Poochyena is a hyena. Absol is catlike but not referencing a specific cat. Though you're still not far off. I've seen foxes described as "cat software on dog hardware" and hyenas as "dog software on cat hardware". The argument could be made that all pure dark-types except Darkrai are cats.
The non-legend primary dark types: Rattatta (rat), Murkrow (crow), Sneasel (weasel), Houndour (dog), Zigzagoon (racoon), Vullaby (buzzard) seem to fit this sort of pattern for a while, being lots of animals that humans think of as cowardly or scary, but that breaks down. Pawniard, Deino, Inkay, Impidimp, Scraggy, Sableye, all are vaguely animal related at best. Same with the secondary dark-types, there's a lot of stuff that's just "eh, it seems mean and needs a secondary typing, it's now a dark cactus", very few sharks or scorpions.
The legendary dark types are Moltres-G, Darkrai, Yveltal, Guzzlord, Zarude, and Urshifu. No real pattern there except for being a pain to balance.
The legendary dark types are Moltres-G, Darkrai, Yveltal, Guzzlord, Zarude, and Urshifu. No real pattern there except for being a pain to balance.
Also, why is there no coyote pokemon yet?
You can do that now, but when it debuted in Black and White, it was event-only. It wasn't until I think B2W2 that you could get one in-game.
For me gamefreak doesnt seem to go for specific dog/cat species characteristics unless it really fits the lore, such as yamper and alolan persian. Everything else is a fusion of common family traits with maybe one of them being considered a bit more. I wouldnt be surprised if something like lucario had some inspiration from coyotes, but doesnt appear to be because its also inspired by every wolf-like critter under the sun.
Just watched Lockstin & Gnoggin's newest video, a remake of his "Why Doesn't Ash Age" video and, while going through all the common "theories" why (and of course the obvious reason why), he did quickly bring up a theory I never thought of:
What I'm talking about Lockstin brings up at 9:54 (or, starts out with the idea but then takes it a COMPLETELY different direction from what I'm going to describe now).
Essentially, in the Pokeverse, Ash (and the anime) don't exist. They're not even a parallel universe. Instead, Ash and his adventures are a legend, like ancient mythical figures, characters from folklore & fairy tales, or the modern day super hero comic stories. Ash doesn't age because he's in a coma, the Pokemon World's time runs differently, or a Legendary granted him immortality; rather he's just a folklore figure, probably a "generic trainer" used to represent the everyman, and the anime are the various stories & adventures attributed to "the Ash Ketchum" to tell exciting stories, give valuable morality lessons, and spread ideas & information about the Pokemon World. Of course there's probably some truth to a lot of the stories attributed to "the Ash Ketchum"; likely some other trainers had gone through it and they just swap out the actual trainer with "the Ash Ketchum" so it could become part of the canon and be told over and over again like the Grimm Fairytales.
Obviously not what the writers or the Pokemon Company intends, but for maybe the older fans who want to analyze the show but are hung up on Ash's never-aging or how his character sometimes takes odd turns and even backpaddles, maybe this idea could be a way for them to overlook all that: we're just watching the animated stories of a classical figure in the world of Pokemon, "the Ash Ketchum".
Essentially, in the Pokeverse, Ash (and the anime) don't exist. They're not even a parallel universe. Instead, Ash and his adventures are a legend, like ancient mythical figures, characters from folklore & fairy tales, or the modern day super hero comic stories. Ash doesn't age because he's in a coma, the Pokemon World's time runs differently, or a Legendary granted him immortality; rather he's just a folklore figure, probably a "generic trainer" used to represent the everyman, and the anime are the various stories & adventures attributed to "the Ash Ketchum" to tell exciting stories, give valuable morality lessons, and spread ideas & information about the Pokemon World. Of course there's probably some truth to a lot of the stories attributed to "the Ash Ketchum"; likely some other trainers had gone through it and they just swap out the actual trainer with "the Ash Ketchum" so it could become part of the canon and be told over and over again like the Grimm Fairytales.
Obviously not what the writers or the Pokemon Company intends, but for maybe the older fans who want to analyze the show but are hung up on Ash's never-aging or how his character sometimes takes odd turns and even backpaddles, maybe this idea could be a way for them to overlook all that: we're just watching the animated stories of a classical figure in the world of Pokemon, "the Ash Ketchum".
does that mean that ash is the same to us as it is to the anime verse: a cartoon character? (well he'd be more like a sherlock that you can reinvent or adapt but the point stands)Essentially, in the Pokeverse, Ash (and the anime) don't exist. They're not even a parallel universe. Instead, Ash and his adventures are a legend, like ancient mythical figures, characters from folklore & fairy tales, or the modern day super hero comic stories. Ash doesn't age because he's in a coma, the Pokemon World's time runs differently, or a Legendary granted him immortality; rather he's just a folklore figure, probably a "generic trainer" used to represent the everyman, and the anime are the various stories & adventures attributed to "the Ash Ketchum" to tell exciting stories, give valuable morality lessons, and spread ideas & information about the Pokemon World. Of course there's probably some truth to a lot of the stories attributed to "the Ash Ketchum"; likely some other trainers had gone through it and they just swap out the actual trainer with "the Ash Ketchum" so it could become part of the canon and be told over and over again like the Grimm Fairytales.
Obviously not what the writers or the Pokemon Company intends, but for maybe the older fans who want to analyze the show but are hung up on Ash's never-aging or how his character sometimes takes odd turns and even backpaddles, maybe this idea could be a way for them to overlook all that: we're just watching the animated stories of a classical figure in the world of Pokemon, "the Ash Ketchum".
i think that theory is nice, but for me its a really complex way to say "he doesnt age because hes a cartoon character 4head" lmao
In a sense, Sherlock Holmes is a good example of such a character I'm talking about. And it's interesting you mention "that you can reinvent or adapt" because, well, aren't we now seeing that happen? First we get the retelling of the 1st Pokemon movie, and now we have a current 3-movie alt universe of a MU Ash.
Admittedly, it does "side step" answering the question "why doesn't Ash age" by essentially applying a fairy tale twist with a touch of "MST3K mantra" (if you're wondering how he grows & ages and other biology facts, ~falalal~, then repeat to yourself it's just a fairy tale, I really should relax). But if the age and occasionally break of character bothers people I could see this as an explanation which keeps in the spirit of the show (telling stories about the Pokemon World and the people & Pokemon within it) while not adding any "dark" twists or manipulation of spacetime to answer a question which the show writers aren't concerned about.
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Eviolite ash kinda broken though
So I just realized that Regieleki is a small boi. It's a little over half the size of the other Titans:
Regirock:--5'07" / 1.7 m
Regice:-----5'11" / 1.8 m
Registeel:--6'03" / 1.9 m
Regieleki:--3'11" / 1.2 m
Regidrago: 6'11" / 2.1 m
Also Regidrago is the tallest, but I think that's the dragon skull for arms.
Regirock:--5'07" / 1.7 m
Regice:-----5'11" / 1.8 m
Registeel:--6'03" / 1.9 m
Regieleki:--3'11" / 1.2 m
Regidrago: 6'11" / 2.1 m
Also Regidrago is the tallest, but I think that's the dragon skull for arms.
He's small because it would be strange to be big and SO fast
On the subject of sizes, what the hell is Duraludon made of? He's 5'11" and 88 lbs. I know people who are in shape at 5'11 and 160 lbs. Duraludon is a metal dragon and is both lighter and taller than Noctowl or Braviary, which are hollow-boned birds. And that's before you count abilities. Light Metal Duraludon weighs 44 lbs, making him weigh the same as Mienfoo at twice the height. Did someone leave a 0 off of the Pokedex entry?
That's precisely the point about Duraludon, that it's made of a strong yet lightweight metal.
Most likely an aluminium alloy.
Its also why duraludon isn't that good in spdef, even compared to the other steel types who aren't that good in spdef. Great material to resist strong blows, not so much. Alloy alluminum has very low fatigue number, low melting point and in general all characteristics that translate pretty well in the pokemon world to "oh this dude fucking dies to a flamethrower"
It also explains why his voice and appearance occasionally changes: they're switching actors. I bet they've gone through a couple hundred Pikachu by this point too.
But yeah, the theory fits amazingly well in another strange way: here is perhaps the most well-known mythological hero from Norwegian folklore:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashlad
Wait, who is this guy, exactly? Legit have never heard of him.
He's the first boss battle in Pokémon Battle Revolution, head of the Gateway Colosseum.
Sure, at first he looks pretty bland, but you forgot a major part of his charm, his theme:
Like his theme, but when you're packing a team like this, you lose charm points.
Master Rank Set 1 Stargazer
I would call this a reference to Ash, but Aipom would have already been traded away. I guess Luxray and Garchomp were too mainstream for him. At least his other teams fit the rank you fight him in.
I would call this a reference to Ash, but Aipom would have already been traded away. I guess Luxray and Garchomp were too mainstream for him. At least his other teams fit the rank you fight him in.
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