SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon

Sorry for double-posting, I have no idea how I missed the few other posts above green_typhlosion's most recent post. Normally I would wait for someone else to post, but I want to respond to a few of these cause they have interesting stuff, and I don't want to edit my post as no one would know I commented on the stuff. If a mod disagrees I apologize and please merge it with my above post.


So apparently there was a physical Pokedex book released concurrently with Pokemon Red and Green's release in Japan that was never localized. The book contains a lot of interesting details, but the one I found the most interesting is that it's 100% intentional that Nidorina and Nidoqueen are unable to breed. Female Nidoran becoming sterile upon evolution was part of the lore from the very beginning, even before Gen 2 introduced breeding as a game mechanic.

Well, you know I couldn't pass this up!

1:51: 2 million years ago, huh. Ignoring that Omanyte is based on an Ammonite which are 419.2 - 358.9 Mya, Kabuto on a Trilobite which are 541 - 485.4 Mya (or a horseshoe crab which date back to 240 Mya) & Aerodactyl is based on a pterosaur which are 228 - 66 Mya. Want to know how far back 2 Mya is? That's pretty much when the first humans appeared and giant mammals such as the mammoth walked the Earth, very much far away from all current Fossil Pokemon.

1:57: It took academia until the 1700s to start studying Pokemon even though they've been around for millions of years? Did the Pokemon World not have a Renaissance? No philosophers in ancient Greece, China or anywhere else took a crack at observing the Pokemon around them? Also I see what you did there Satoshi Tajiri. :P

2:00: What do you mean by only 30 discovered? Even assuming you've counted an entire evolution line as one species, in Gen I there was 63 com mon families (not counting Starters, Legendaries, Fossils, Magnemite family, Voltorb family, Ditto, Porygon). Which were the 30 were "discovered" and why were the rest not?

2:14: German, Spain, & Italy, got it, let the speculation which one of those regions are next begin!

2:30: So just want to note that Japan has books and records about Yokai even before the first millennium, yet in the Pokemon World it took Japan till the late 1800s.

2:46: NO ONE EVER SAW A PIKACHU EVOLVE INTO A RAICHU BEFORE THAN?! And "new phase of discovery", please do not tell me that means no one knew Pokemon "evolved" before...

2:54: Oh, so when they said 30 they actually did mean 30 individual species. What, did Baron Tajirin not bother looking no further than outside of his neighborhood? EDIT (from 12:14): Oh, it was a development reference to how they thought they could only fit 30 Pokemon in a GB cart until Miyamoto gave them a new GB cart that could hold more data. I guess that's neat, still makes the Baron look shortsighted though. Like, when they say "discover" do they mean "recorded", because I can see that.

3:02: Pfft, "efforts of Professor Oak"; yeah, was real hard of him sending out two kids to explore the entire Kanto region (which conveniently had all species of Pokemon at that moment) while he sat back drinking tea waiting for the dex data to come in.

5:06: "The oceans haven't changed much since 2 million years". You can just imagine the seething of marine biologists from that rather incredibly stupid statement.

8:44 (Meowth/Why Able To Talk): So Tajiri had a scale of Pokemon intelligence where Meowth was the smartest. No doubt discarded, still curius where the first gen (and maybe 2nd gen, can't imagine lasting beyond that) fell on that chart and the reasoning for it. Also sounds like Tajiri put a lot of thought on said chart, so I'm also curious what he felt when it became clear the chart wasn't meant to be (or did he simply forget about it as time went on, knowing it was a dud so moved on without a second thought to it?).

9:12 (Mankey/Always Angry): Um, whatever happened to Grassland Pokemon being people-friendly and placid?

9:53 (Primeape/How the Poke Ball Was Invented): ... Wait, what? So the invention of the Poke Ball came about because Prof. Nishinomori was experimenting on a Primeape by giving it drugs (you know, for kids!), dopes it up too much, and this somehow caused it to curl up & shrink to fit inside a glasses case? What drugs was the Professor giving Primeape?! And how did this lead to the Poke Ball using mass-to-energy technology? I have a feeling this is maybe one tidbit that likely has been retcon.

10:23 (Hitmonchan/Unknown Habitat But Placed In Grasslands): Some top notch research there. "Um, we've never seen a Hitmonchan in their natural habitat before". "Eh, it's similar enough to Hitmonlee, just put it in the same habitat". But, if no one knows where they are, how was it discovered? Wouldn't where you discovered them be their habitat?

16:12 (Nidorina/Unable To Breed): AND here's the fact that has a lot of people talking. It wasn't a mistake, it was planned all along that Nidorina and Nidoqueen were unable to breed. Two questions: One, why? Like, was it supposed to be a reference to menopause? If it was, note Nidoran evolves at Level 16. Yes, I know, Level doesn't mean age, but still I feel like if they were going for this angle that Nidorina should evolve at a higher level. In Gen I there are plenty of basic stage Pokemon that evolving in their 30s and even 40s. Two, if this was supposed to be the case, WHY DO NEW NIDORINA AND NIDOQUEEN DEX ENTRIES MENTION OFFSPRING. Dex entries for Nidorina mentions offspring in Gold/HG/Y & Sword, and Nidoqueen mentions offspring in Silver/SS, all Hoenn games, DP/all Unova games/X, and Sword & Shield. Not to mention all the depictions of Nidoqueen & Nidoking with young Nidoran like a recent PokeToon. What, did ALL these Nidorina/Nidoqueen have offspring as a Nidoran then evolved as quickly as possible; they refuse to evolve until they have children and in the meanwhile keep a Moon Stone hidden nearby? That must be really awkward for any Nidorino/Nidoking partners, one moment their partner is half/less than a fifth their size, the next after laying some eggs they're as big as they are... WAIT, is this (also) a virginity metaphor? This is getting awkward, let's move on...

17:04 (Nidoran Male/Ladies Love Long Horns): So many innuendos... FOR KIDS!

18:25 (Exeggcute/Researchers Say They're The Same Seeds As Bulbasaur's Bulb): These same researchers are also all blind.

19:41 (Tangela/Resist Researcher Clippers To Discover Their Hidden Form): I've seen enough hentai to know where that was going...

21:06 (Lickitung/Significant Dex Number): Oh, wow, we've even gotten some "getting c*ap past the radar", lol!

21:38 (Scyther/Kills Prey): Also, this is still Woodland Pokemon, right? I thought they only ate nuts and berries (and were small)?

22:57 (Eevee/Unknown Habitat But Placed In Grasslands 2): Didn't they mention one of the habitat categories was unknown? These are two Pokemon now which habitat are unknown... but instead of placing Hitmonchan and Eevee there they just arbitrarily decided to classify them as Grassland!

24:45 (Onix/Height Goes By Length): Eh, for some Pokemon that are long. It's clear for other Pokemon (usually bipedal) height is referring feet to head while standing.

25:31 (Geodude/Geodude Fights): What dumba** kids are using Geodudes like they're snowballs? Are they trying to put each other in a coma... or dead?

27:26 (Machoke/Evolution Method Unknown): Okay, I get why they would want to hide how they evolve so that kids reading this manual would have to discover it on their own... but in order to get a Golem, Marchamp, Gengar, and Alakazam you need to trade so surely it's at least known they're evolutions and not a possibility. They could have just said "While (Pokemon) is an evolution of (Pokemon's prior evo), they don't evolve through training or special stones" and then maybe give vague hints how some were discovered to evolve like "One suddenly evolved when helping a friend/sibling/cousin/etc. do a task".

30:02 (Squirtle/Unknown Habitat But Placed In Water's-Edge): Okay, this is the last one I'll do this for.

33:05 (Blastoise/Originally Seperate From Squirtle Family): It would also explain why Blastoise dex entry didn't mention its most notable trait, its water cannons. But wait, these would mean they had Dex entries for Squritle's original final evo, so shouldn't that mean they had them for Blastoise and its original prevo? Gen I Dex entries mention the cannon, were those Blastoise original Dex entry or were those new ones made for it? Also, why keep the Ninetales entry mentioning "Blastoise" instead of switching it to Wartortle who still has the furry tail?

34:30 (Golduck/Swimming Speed): This isn't about Golduck but rather that "fastest swimmer chart". It shows Magikarp is the slowest and Dewgong is in the middle... and in the games Magikarp's Speed is 80 and Dewgong's is 70 (Golduck is 85). BTW, Seadra is just as fast as Golduck, Tentacruel's is 100, and the fastest Water-type is Starmie at 115.

Will continue when they release part 2!

It's interesting that the Primeape entry mentions that the discovery of the pokeball involved giving a primeape too many drugs until it essentially passed out. It implies that the poke balls use some sort of drug to dull the pokemon and allow it to be captured. TBH that's not too surprising of an explanation but also understandable that it's never been mentioned in game.

It didn't just pass out, it also curled up "like a fetus" and shrank until it fitted inside a glasses case!? And this led to the Poke Ball using mass-to-energy technology how?

This post from another thread got me wondering about Gyms. It's still (deliberately, I'm sure) so vague how they run after eight generations.

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The games have eight gyms in each region and seemingly only those eight. Gameplay and story segregation obviously plays a role in this, but there are occasional indications to there being more gyms than the ones the player sees. Brendan and May in RSE imply that Slateport getting a gym is an inevitability, but it's ambiguous whether they mean that one will be opened for no particular reason or that it won't get one until another gym in a different area shuts down and they need an eighth one somewhere else. Galar does seem all-but-confirmed to have one gym for each type - the gyms not visited by the player are just minor league ones. So presumably, the minor league gyms do not count towards entering the Pokemon League - it's unclear if they can give out badges unless they're major, but it would appear not.

The anime, as mentioned, does have multiple gyms: these appear to be both official ones - since we see trainers in all of the first six regions with unidentified badges - and unofficial ones, like AJ's Gym and the Kas and Yas Gyms in Dark City, both of which are trying to get certified.

It's interesting that the unofficial gyms we see never share a type with established ones. So does that imply that there is - or can only be - one Gym of each type in a region? It certainly seems this way in the games. In Unova we see that Cheren literally takes over the Normal-type mantle from Leonora - he even gives out the same badge. If she was still operating, would he have had to choose a different type? If nothing else it seems kind of pointless for people to set up multiple gyms of the same type when you could just go and train at one that's already there. A swimmer in Unova mentions that he will seek out Water Gyms in different regions - why would he need to do this if Unova had more than one of its own? In B2W2, Marlon is inferred to have only recently opened his Gym - could he not have opened it if Cilan, Chili, and Cress were still running theirs?

What also seems concrete is that it's only one gym per area. Cilan, Chili, and Cress do not operate separate gyms, even though they logically should - instead, they run one together. Sabrina famously challenges the Karate King for the right to be Saffron's official gym - the idea that the city could simply have had two gyms was clearly not on the cards. Because of this, it does not give out a badge. So does Kanto no longer have a Fighting-type gym? Would they have to set up elsewhere to be one?

So yeah I'm curious as to whether there's only one gym of each type allowed in each region or whether any old Tom, Dick, or Harry can start setting them up as and when they like. Given the weird cult of personality the Blackthorn Gym has around Dragon usage it's hard to imagine them tolerating another Dragon gym in Johto (or in Kanto come to that). Or Sabrina allowing any pretender Psychic gyms in Kanto to exist.

I do think in the game's lore there is only 8 Gyms at any time for Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova, & Kalos. Of course, note that just because a region has 8 Gyms that doesn't mean two close by regions can't share a League as Kanto & Johto show by sharing the Indigo League (and the anime suggests a trainer wanting to enter Indigo League can use a mix of Kanto & Johto badges). Another interesting thing to note, Kanto and Johto Gym Leaders don't share a Type, so in the game world there is likely, for a region which restricts the number of Gyms to 8, that no Gym shares a Type (now this would look to even extend to Kanto & Johto, but Kanto did have a Fighting Gym before Sabrina took over with her Psychic Gym. So question becomes was the Fighting Dojo also a Gym at the same time as Chuck or was Chuck able to establish his Fighting Gym after they lost to the Sabrina and an unknown Johto Gym also closed down (Gyms can be the same Type as an Elite Four member, so the Johto Gym that closed down could have been either Dark (if League connected regions can't share a Type) or another Fighting (if League connected can share a Type).

Running a Gym seems to be intricately tied with also how a League runs. We got a view of how a League is formed in Alola, so let's start there. So, to start a League, seems like someone (or likely a group) who has a lot of influence and strength as a trainer wants to start one in a region which doesn't have one. The first thing to do seems to be going around and getting the various cities/towns trying to get support from the local communities and region government to do so while also looking and recruiting strong trainers to work for the League. A location to build the League Building is scouted and then, probably after a lot of discussion, built. By then the League should have at least an Elite Four ready, possibly even a designated preliminary Champion (though the original Kanto games and what went on in the Alola games may hint that a Champion isn't quite required until a trainer strong enough to defeat the Elite Four comes along). But after that things get fuzzy as seems like for Alola they may use the Island Challenge as a replacement for the Gym Challenge. So from here one it's speculation.

I would guess for most other regions, after establishing the League, they would then do a combination of scouting and making open calls for Gym Leaders. Rules seems to be as such: Only 8 slots are available (though a Gym can have multiple leaders & the leaders can use different Types but probably something you REALLY need to convince the League on), Only one in a City/Town, Can't share a Type with another Gym, Gym Leader has to be a strong trainer (likely there being a battle test to pass). While it's likely not a requirement, Gym Leaders also seem to be key figures in the Town/City they live in or at least become one when they become a Gym Leader so a Gym Leader would also have to be someone who can handle that kind of responsibility and pressure; to be a leader figure essentially. Also doesn't seem to matter whether the Gym Leader has another job/hobby, if anything it's possibly a benefit especially if that person owns a building (or at least has permission of one to use). Cause then after choosing a the 8 Leaders they need to build their Gyms and already the League costed money to make and Gyms, while one alone wouldn't cost as much as a League Building, all 8 together probably do (maybe even triple). If a Leader has a building already that makes things easier, all they would need to do is renovate the Gym as the Leader would like it, but if they don't they now need to buy or build a Gym. This brings in the major question of League funding: how does a Pokemon League fund itself? Who's flipping the bills and signing the (pay)checks? How supported are the Gyms? Are the Gyms expected to make money and provide a charitable service; do they have a choice or can only so many be a charitable service? If Gyms do earn money through business or donations does some of that money go to the League and; if so, how much?

Of course we may get of glimpse of this from Galar. Galar is a possible exception to some of the rules due to its culture being built on Pokemon battles. Galar has a Gym for each Type and it's during the yearly Champion Cup do they have the Gyms battle one another to decide which 8 are in the Major League (aka are the Gyms trainers need to defeat & collect a Badge from) and which are in the Minor League (which they don't really explain if that has any role, it just sounds like a fancy/nicer term of being benched). Also, the Gyms may more be "Clubs" than Gyms, cause as we've seen the places where Gyms battles are called "Stadiums" and Stadiums can be different Types as the version exclusive Gyms showed depending on whose in the Major League that year. No doubt some Gym Leaders may prefer specific Cities/Towns over others, though I imagine that discussion is all done after the Major League is decided. Though, that said, that should mean there's 8 Stadiums and in Sword & Shield one should not be in use due to Piers refusing to leave Spikemuth and wanting it as his Gym (much to Rose's annoyance, so much so he offered to build Piers a Stadium in a Power Spot of his choosing; likely the idea being whenever Piers is in the Major League he would get first dibs on that Stadium). So either there is/are extra Stadium(s) and we just don't see it/them or maybe some Gyms do share a Stadium and swap which Gym is in charge everyday (I think it's more likely the former considering how Rose was willing to build a brand new Stadium to get Piers to play ball). Also Gyms operate mostly individually, signing on new members and choosing who is their next Gym Leader with no interference from the League (while some past Gyms were family owned, since there can only be 8 Gyms the League has more say on who gets to be a Gym Leader, even approving hostile takeovers such as Sabrina defeating the Fighting Dojo for the right to be Saffron City Gym Leader and her Psychic Gym designated as the Gym). And with the Gym battles being in Stadiums we see they're televised which of course means marketing, merchandising, sponsors, and venders. It's clear Rose is the one with the checkbook. Galar is very upfront with all of that, though this could be also how other Leagues are run but done so more subtly.

From there it's up to the Gym Leader to maintain their Gym, once again who knows if they get any support from the League (or rather what bureaucracy they have to deal with in order to get their requests submitted; imagine a lot of paper work JUST enough to make it not feel worth it for small requests; then again maybe Gym Leaders are given additional benefits like tax breaks and special deals from construction & other businesses).

Anyway, to address some things to asked I didn't quite answer:

* Does Galar Minor League Give Out Badges? Nope. BUT that doesn't mean they don't have a logo (or multiple logos) ready to use if they do join a Major League one year. Remember Galar's Badges have a gimmick: they combine together inside a ring to form a giant Champion Cup logo "badge". If I were to guess how it works: Each Major League submits a logo they want to be on their Badges. The Champion Cup has designers place the logos around the gold plate, probably a few ways. The Gym Leaders are shown the plates and they all agree on one plate. Then comes cutting the borders and the designers get the Gym Leaders whos Badges touch to discuss how they want their Badge border to be like and if the others agree. If there's conflict, they may go back to chooing another plate and starting the process again. Finally when everyone is in agreement the design is finalized and the Badges are cut and sent out.

* Would Cheren had to choose a different Type had Lenora not quit? Considering Cheren became the giver of the Basic Badge, I think him becoming a Gym Leader likely happened because Lenora quit. I think there's a story there.

* Would the Swimmer be going around to other regions if Unova have more than one Water-type Gym? Well, yeah, even if Unova had a region's worth of Water-type Gym the guy isn't doing it to challenge a League but because he wants to battle strong Water-type trainers.

* Would Malon not opened his Gym if the Striaton Triplets didn't quit? Very likely. Whenver a Gym position opens the League probably posts what Types are available. With the Triplets quitting that put Grass, Fire, & Water back into the pool, and Marlon saw that as his opportunity.

* Would the Fighting Dojo have to set up in a new City/Town to be a Gym again? Yes, possibly. First, it depends on if League connected Regions must have different Gym Types or they can share a Gym Type. If they can't, tough luck, they gotta wait until Chuck quits. If they can, after a Gym Leader quits opening a position, they would have to set-up in another City/Town without a Gym and likely submit a request. If two connected regions are allowed to share and Kiyo ever comes back from his training, maybe they could move to Viridian City (or maybe already have); Remember, Blue was just holding the 8th Gym Leader position until the League could find a replacement.

* (Main) Anime having more Gyms: The main anime is trying to be more realistic thus the region is the size of a country. Hence the anime also having WAY more cities & towns and other locations not in the games. Also, since each region's League is a big tournament with dozens if not hundreds of trainers participating (and those are just the trainers who succeeded in getting all 8 Badges), it would be pretty ridiculous if there was still only 8 Gym Leaders. Hence, though Ash goes through the game's Gyms, other trainers including Ash's rivals are shown to have gone to completely different Gyms not in the game with unique looking Badges. Heck, in Unova, since B2W2 had new Gyms we got to see Cheren's, Roxie's and Marlon's Gym (and since Ash challenged Roxie as his 8th Gym Leader he technically got a unique set of Badges than ones which can be obtained in the games). In addition its likely there's Gyms which share Types cause two trainers won't use the same strategies and/or Pokemon.
 
NO ONE EVER SAW A PIKACHU EVOLVE INTO A RAICHU BEFORE THAN?! And "new phase of discovery", please do not tell me that means no one knew Pokemon "evolved" before...

Keep in mind practically all the trade and stone evolutions are described this way. Looks like that, in initial lore, evolution by methods that were not leveling up were a recent discovery or something like that.
 
So I was just looking at ditto’s Pokédex entries, and while most of them weren’t to interesting, one stood out.
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What. Does. This. Mean. I think that this is referring to dittos ability to bread with (almost) any other Pokémon. But what does this have to do with metamorphosis? There’s a theory that Pokémon “evolution” is actually metamorphosis, but ditto doesn’t evolve. I don’t usually trust the Pokédex, but I at least want to find the logic here.
 
So I was just looking at ditto’s Pokédex entries, and while most of them weren’t to interesting, one stood out.View attachment 356521
What. Does. This. Mean. I think that this is referring to dittos ability to bread with (almost) any other Pokémon. But what does this have to do with metamorphosis? There’s a theory that Pokémon “evolution” is actually metamorphosis, but ditto doesn’t evolve. I don’t usually trust the Pokédex, but I at least want to find the logic here.
I'm guessing Ditto likes transforming into stuff (or as the dex calls it, "metamorphosis" which is really what evolution should be called) and hanging out with other Ditto means that neither of them have anything to transform into.
 
So I was just looking at ditto’s Pokédex entries, and while most of them weren’t to interesting, one stood out.View attachment 356521
What. Does. This. Mean. I think that this is referring to dittos ability to bread with (almost) any other Pokémon. But what does this have to do with metamorphosis? There’s a theory that Pokémon “evolution” is actually metamorphosis, but ditto doesn’t evolve. I don’t usually trust the Pokédex, but I at least want to find the logic here.
It's just a transformation joke
It can transform (metamorph, if you will) and get along with any pokemon (arguably people but.....) in any environment.
 
I'm guessing Ditto likes transforming into stuff (or as the dex calls it, "metamorphosis" which is really what evolution should be called) and hanging out with other Ditto means that neither of them have anything to transform into.
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So I was just looking at ditto’s Pokédex entries, and while most of them weren’t to interesting, one stood out.View attachment 356521
What. Does. This. Mean. I think that this is referring to dittos ability to bread with (almost) any other Pokémon. But what does this have to do with metamorphosis? There’s a theory that Pokémon “evolution” is actually metamorphosis, but ditto doesn’t evolve. I don’t usually trust the Pokédex, but I at least want to find the logic here.
"change of physical form, structure, or substance especially by supernatural means"

That's the definition of "metamorphosis" from Merriam-Webster. "Metamorphosis" in the context of this entry just refers to Ditto being able to change its physical form to match that of any other Pokémon. Except itself, which is probably why Ditto don't get along with each other.
 
It's very catchy. Also, my mistake, I thought Ditto's Japanese name was Metamorph, I corrected my post.
Nah don't worry about it, it's a fair conclusion tbh. metamon is metamorph + monster. it's pretty close to the pronunciation of metamorph in a Japanese accent too (so it's kinda like whismur, which is super close to whisper but the pronunciation is juuuuuust different enough)
 
16:12 (Nidorina/Unable To Breed)
Yeah, I kinda hate the fact that this was intentional
is not only unnecessary and nonsensical, Gamefreak has decided to stick to it in spite of it contradicting recent ("recent" as in "released in the last 15 years") pokedex entries as well as the anime canon


as for the Gym Leader thing, is pretty clear that in the games they're celebrities; whether they're paid well or are just looked up to (and get all the benefits that that implies) socially, it's up in the air
 
You might want to check its Silver pokedex entry
things like this

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are older than you'd think

we know the games are somewhat contradictory, but gamefreak cannot contradict anime canon, because the anime is a spawn of the games and comes afterwards. At best, they're completely separate worlds, at worst, the anime is the contradictory one. That's probably what siggu meant
 
Nidorina also mentions raising its young in its gen 2-on dex entries so I think the intent really is "gives birth as nidoran, continues to raise the young through Nidorina & Nidoqueen"

Unless it's a mistranslation, in that they are meant to say they raise the young, but it's never specified whose.
 
Here's the thing, both Nidorina and Nidoqueen entries as early as Gold and Silver mention them caring for their young
whatever the anime thinks about it doesn't matter
that book might have been written by Gamefreak but in the games, Nidorina and Nidoqueen have been mention to raise their young ever since breeding became a thing

it's basically Gamefreak contradicting its own games
 
Here's the thing, both Nidorina and Nidoqueen entries as early as Gold and Silver mention them caring for their young
whatever the anime thinks about it doesn't matter
that book might have been written by Gamefreak but in the games, Nidorina and Nidoqueen have been mention to raise young ever since breeding became a thing

is basically Gamefreak contradicting its own games
The book was written well before breeding was a mechanic, and then breeding became a mechanic and it was in line with what was previously established about the Nidoran family. The apparent odd one out is the Pokedex entries themselves, but really it's just saying that Nidoran mate and then evolve into Nidorina to better protect their young.
 
Huh, didn't think I'd need to place it here, but the discovery of the Nidorina and Nidoqueen intentionally being unable to breed & yet their Pokedex entry mentioning their young made me wonder how that could work. Eventually I made up a theory in Weird Theories that, honestly, has me convinced it's possible. I'll repost it here outside of a quote box to save you the trouble:

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So, I have weird new theory, maybe edging a bit on wishlisting or at least more going into an idea GF had but they didn't really follow-up on despite leading to a baffling decision they keep on today.

If you didn't know, FUN FACT, Nidorina & Nidoqueen can't breed. Very strange, especially since their male counterparts can. At first you could assume it was a glitch, yet its something which has been carried out with them for several gens and never "fixed".

If you haven't heard, an old Japanese Pokemon pre-release handbook guide was found recently and translated. The pre-release guide didn't really tell you much, but it did have Pokedex entries & trivia bits here and there that were never mentioned in the games. You can watch a video about it here (note it's a part 1 and the next part isn't out yet at the time of writing this):
Now, some of the information in the guide has likely been retconned, but there is one dex entry which has caught the ears of fans: Nidorina & Nidoqueen being unable to breed was intentional. It wasn't a glitch that for some reason they were keeping, it was purposely done. Now a response to that video I did I was critical with the decision, noting how it doesn't make sense on both a mechanical level (Nidoran female are said to do all their breeding before they evolve, but the Nidorans evolve early at Level 16) and with newer dex entries (Nidorina's and Nidoqueen's dex entries keep mentioning their offspring despite being unable to breed). Now, I mentioned a "workaround" to these conundrums but in a mocking matter... but as I thought more about it, and thinking back to another post I made where I had to read up on the behavior of hens (it had to do with the Chansey family and protection of their eggs), I think the workaround can honestly work if more thought was put into it. But that's not something for the Mystery & Conspiracy thread, well, it could fit there, BUT considering the topic matter I think it would fit better as a:

NEW THEORY: Nidoran F(emale) Breeding Behaviors
  • So, first let's remember a Pokemon can choose not to evolve. Upon reaching level 16 a Nidoran F doesn't have to evolve, infact I could even see a Nidoran F trying to get itself up to at least Level 16 BEFORE it begins breeding. But for now, a Nidoran F is not evolving because, like all species, it wants to reproduce so its species can thrive and pass along its genes.

  • And so, no matter how many levels it gains, a Nidoran F will stay as its basic stage until it finds a mate, most likely a Nidoran M(ale) or a Nidorino, and produce a clutch of eggs. That is when its maternal instincts kick in. Nidoran F are mentioned not to be fighters having short horns (but have a strong poison to use in self-defense), but Nidorina and Nidoqueen are noted to have thick armor scales. Thus, now having their clutch of eggs, Nidoran F has accomplished its goal of procreating so now chooses to evolve (which is easy enough to do as its over Level 16) to better protect its eggs and soon offspring. It has traded its biological function to develop new eggs in order to grow thicker armor to protect the eggs/offspring it now has.

  • Now, this is where the Nidoran M/Nidorino comes in. As the Nidorina are tending to the Eggs, it's the males turn to start doing some leg work. Yes, as 1st stage evos they are perfectly capable of protecting their offspring, BUT they would do a much better job if they were a 2nd stage. So, the duty of the male counterparts is finding Moon Stones for both itself and its breeding partner, and hopefully they can do so before the eggs hatch to the baby Nidoran have a strong Nidoking and Nidoqueen parent caring and protecting them. In my original response I asked wouldn't it be strange for the partner for the Nidoran F to suddenly change, but then I realized it wouldn't be if BOTH partners underwent the same change.
So, is that all? No, because there are some additional questions that need addressing:
  • Why can Nidorino and Nidoking still breed than? Likely a reflection of real like animals, notably mammals. A male's part in reproduction is just providing the sperm, in biological resource terms that's very little energy to do. Meanwhile its the female which has to spend the massive amount of resources to grow the child within them, and that's taxing on the body especially an older body. Female mammals go through menopause because the body has decided it likely won't (naturally) survive having a child. Now my above explanation danced around that, but I think that's the core idea behind this decision. Nidorino and Nidoking can still breed because it takes very little energy on their part to do so, could be possible for a sole Nidorino/Nidoking to have a harem. Now thinking of a Nidoking breeding with a Nidoran F is a bit squick, but this is the animal kingdom and if a Nidoking is strong than a Nidoran F would perfectly be happy making offspring with it (also who says the Nidokings need to breed with members of its own species; Kangaskhan need males so...). And after breeding that Nidoran F will evolve into the Nidorina, and if it has a Moon Stone become an equally sized Nidoqueen. In fact having an abundance of Moon Stones could also be something alpha male Nidokings use to attract mates as that not only shows its a provider but also means the female can be ready to protect its offspring to its fullest asap. Though, flipping this around, if we're to assume that the Nidoran family are more solitary creature and the males may not stick around/females may chase them off, then the male can just keep on doing its business and find another female.

  • Is there any reason for wild Nidoran F to evolve before laying Eggs? I can see maybe in a colony structure there may be some Nidoran F who choose to evolve before laying Eggs. It would have to be a situation where there's not enough males (or not enough genetic diversity) that weaker Nidoran F decide it's better for its stronger sisters to pass on their genes, so they evolve immediately to provide extra protection for the colony (and especially their nieces and nephews to keep on passing down the family genes even if it's not directly theirs). Outside of that I would say the instinct to reproduce would be stronger for individuals living by themselves or in a small group that they would not evolve under normal circumstances.

  • Why need a Moon Stone to evolve to their 2nd/final stage? In addition to the above explanation of being a way for the males to provide support and possibly use as a way to attract mates, could also be another way to show how much the Nidoran F's thinking & body has changed upon reproducing. It so much no longer sees a need to reproduce, it's perfectly willing to expose itself to radiation to further make itself stronger and bulkier to protect its offspring. While Nidorina may still have their reproductive organs but its shrunk and squashed by armor scales, Nidoqueen may have used the Moon Stone to completely remove them for extra muscle and armor. Heck, Nidoking could just be a byproduct of that, no reason to not give the males a 2nd/final stage as well.
 
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  • Why need a Moon Stone to evolve to their 2nd/final stage? In addition to the above explanation of being a way for the males to provide support and possibly use as a way to attract mates, could also be another way to show how much the Nidoran F's thinking & body has changed upon reproducing. It so much no longer sees a need to reproduce, it's perfectly willing to expose itself to radiation to further make itself stronger and bulkier to protect its offspring. While Nidorina may still have their reproductive organs but its shrunk and squashed by armor scales, Nidoqueen may have used the Moon Stone to completely remove them for extra muscle and armor. Heck, Nidoking could just be a byproduct of that, no reason to not give the males a 2nd/final stage as well.


Alternatively it might be that the Moon Stone simply provides the energy that childbirth would provide in the wild. When a Nidoran-F births its young, its maternal instincts catalyse inside it and give it the impetus to grow larger and become powerful enough to defend them. Using a Moon Stone simply short-cuts the process.

I've always thought stone and item evolutions were like this. Take Steelix. You can catch wild Steelix; in nature, I envisage that Onix absorbs metal and gradually changes over years and years to become its evolved form. In-game and in-universe via the miracle of technology, you can "jump-start" the process with a Metal Coat and a surge of energy via the trading process. Evolution stones are similar; they concentrate the energy and power that a wild Pokemon might need years to fully imbibe.

In human terms I guess it'd be kind of like injecting a child with a booster of hormones and chemicals so that puberty suddenly triggers and overnight they're a deep-voiced homunculus with acne and way too much hair.

Lovely image, that...
 
I was thinking "it doesn't suit Giovanni to have a Kangaskhan, who has strong maternal instincts". However, that's when I realized, that it suits him a lot. Few Pokemon would like to cause harm. So, to make up for that, he probably would have threatened to harm the cub if Kangaskhan didn't obey him. This same logic serves for him to have a Nidoking and a Nidoqueen. It also serves him to have a Marowak, although he only has one in PWT, at the time he was probably already acting legally, and in Battle Agency, where it wasn't really him. If you're going to extend this logic further, you can also use it for Dugtrio.


I also have theories for his plans with the Rainbow Rocket. I don't think he was supposed to want an army of UBs just because he thought they were strong. I think it has a lot more to do with practical use. They are found in droves on their home planets. Apparently, Giovanni could freely travel between dimensions, so I think traveling there would be pretty easy. Meanwhile, they all have their own use. Nihilego: mind control, Buzzwole: tasks that require brute force, Pheromosa: chases, Xurkitree: electric power, Celestela: rocket, Guzzlord: mass destruction, Naganadel: flight, Stakataka: mobile barrier, Blacephalon: entertainment.

Another interesting thing to note: after you complete the Rainbow Rocket Episode, if you go to take a photo at Alola Photo Club, you are informed that a man dressed in black, who called himself Rainbow, had given the villain teams stickers for everyone to use. To support the theory I'm going to present, I'm going to assume he did it right before you faced him. These stickers were probably intended to promote the Rainbow Rocket, but based on that, we have something curious: among them we have one from Team Skull. Because? Here comes another theory: Giovanni planned to get Guzma to join him, so he wanted to appear on television. He knew Guzma would be attracted to Lusamine being in danger. He would likely use means like Nihilego, if necessary, to gain control over Guzma. Why would he do that? Because Guzma is not only strong, but he has control over many people.


My English is bad so maybe he has some mistakes. Anyway, if I remember correctly, those are my theories. Did I forget something? I don't think all my theories are right, but I think maybe some are.
 
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