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Movepool changes
- Thread starter Stellar
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With offenses similar to Deoxys-N, I wouldn't be surprised if it was banned before pokebank is updated.
Do we know if it's 3v3 still this gen or can we play 6v6 finally
I was really hoping Lilligant would gain something useful (give it Dazzling Gleam at least, goddamn), especially since now Bellossom is stealing her thunder while having actual coverage moves to speak of.
I just noticed that Dunsparce gets Body Slam via level up now. Previously the move was only obtainable on it via move tutor in Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emerald, and XD.
So now it's compatible with any Egg moves it gained from Gen IV onwards and the Alola-born symbol whenever Bank gets updated.
Not that it's any good mind you, It just happens to be my favorite Pokemon from some reason.
So now it's compatible with any Egg moves it gained from Gen IV onwards and the Alola-born symbol whenever Bank gets updated.
Not that it's any good mind you, It just happens to be my favorite Pokemon from some reason.
Lilligant's niche is Own Tempo + Quiver Dance + Petal Dance. Bellossom won't steal it's thunder, they will both work in diferent ways
Yeah for one, Bellossom actually has coverage, while not amazing, access to Sludge Bomb and Moonblast is miles better than just a Hidden Power option. Unfortunately it's still super slow even at +1 so I'd be surprised if it made it out of NU considering Lilligant also resides there and has the niche of being much faster without a boost
I was going to say that it has Chlorophyll, but Lilligant also has it too. However, you're almost always going to run Lilligant with Own Tempo. Bellossom has better bulk though and better coverage, with the trade off of lower speed.
Again, unfortunately, it is not complete, as it does not list for example Zubat who has a new learnset order-wise.
Unfortunately, that's the closest thing we have
We have all the data info of 6th gen, and all the data info of 7th gen, but catching the differences is manual
As it's been 3v3 for two generations now I really don't think it will change. Things are also less broken in 3v3 than they are in 6v6.
Smh. Options would be nice.
I think you can still challenge people to 6v6 battles individually, just not through battle spot.
I just noticed something curious about the movepool changes, although it's mostly related to the new TM list.
Yanma and Yanmega gained access to TM28, Leech Life... but still get it as an Egg Move. This is despite Gen V removing several Egg Moves that became redundant when TMs stopped being single-use.
There may be other oversights like these.
Yanma and Yanmega gained access to TM28, Leech Life... but still get it as an Egg Move. This is despite Gen V removing several Egg Moves that became redundant when TMs stopped being single-use.
There may be other oversights like these.
Froslass might be one of the premiere Icy Wind users for VGC '17 and now with Wil O Wisp, it has the ability to decrease the enemy's ATK and Speed. Other notable VGC moves it learns are Safe Guard, Taunt, and Destiny Bond (now nerfed). Froslass is def on my lookout for VGC viable Pokemone now especially with Wil O Wisp.
VGC '17:
Clefable/Starmie getting Spotlight gives some interesting combos to Counter + Mirror Coat. I assume Spotlight will have increased priority like Follow Me does.
Off the top of my head, Chansey, Hariyama, Goodra, Snorlax make for good Counter-ers and Milotic for Mirror Coat.
Goodra makes for a good Spotlight partner with Sap Sipper. Gooey sounds appealing but if Counter picks up the OHKO then immunities would be better suited.
Starmie + Goodra make a good partnership so that Starmie can Surf no problem if it needs to attack ... and if you're running Surf over Scald for some reason. Or Spotlight Goodra so that Goodra can take the incoming Grass/Electric attack aimed at Starmie, eat it up (literally with Sap Sipper) and then retaliate back. Goodra with Sap Sipper could also make for a good meta-call to check Tapu Bulu and Kartana.
Hariyama has a nice big HP stat to dish out juicy Counters. And he has Fake Out making him a good Doubles partner. Hariyama might be better suited with Clefable's Spotlight for any Steel/Poison moves that won't OHKO Hariyama.
Clefable having both Follow Me and Spotlight also makes for some annoying mind games but that might be a waste of a moveslot to have them both.
Clefable/Starmie getting Spotlight gives some interesting combos to Counter + Mirror Coat. I assume Spotlight will have increased priority like Follow Me does.
Off the top of my head, Chansey, Hariyama, Goodra, Snorlax make for good Counter-ers and Milotic for Mirror Coat.
Goodra makes for a good Spotlight partner with Sap Sipper. Gooey sounds appealing but if Counter picks up the OHKO then immunities would be better suited.
Starmie + Goodra make a good partnership so that Starmie can Surf no problem if it needs to attack ... and if you're running Surf over Scald for some reason. Or Spotlight Goodra so that Goodra can take the incoming Grass/Electric attack aimed at Starmie, eat it up (literally with Sap Sipper) and then retaliate back. Goodra with Sap Sipper could also make for a good meta-call to check Tapu Bulu and Kartana.
Hariyama has a nice big HP stat to dish out juicy Counters. And he has Fake Out making him a good Doubles partner. Hariyama might be better suited with Clefable's Spotlight for any Steel/Poison moves that won't OHKO Hariyama.
Clefable having both Follow Me and Spotlight also makes for some annoying mind games but that might be a waste of a moveslot to have them both.
Just wanted to post my disappointment for Aurorus not getting Aurora Veil nor Power Gem, and Wigglytuff still not getting Boomburst (and instead getting moves it'll never use).
Happy af about Bellossom, Mantine and Froslass.
Happy af about Bellossom, Mantine and Froslass.
Does Ferrothorn still not have Spiky Shield? (Like, come on Game Freak, just look at it)
Ferrothorn without Spiky Shield is about as bad as Incineroar without Sucker Punch.