I haven't experienced that issue, but you can try using this online version that doesn't require a download, it's what I've been using: https://not-an-aardvark.github.io/rng-timer/
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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
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Sorry to be out of nowhere. But can someone link me via dm the sysbot encounter for S/V?
Internally each one is a separate Wonder Card, with the RNG happening in the distribution process (namely for which you got) at the time, so it'd be a standard event RNG while also just manually picking the egg (or more specifically the Wonder Card), assuming you have the Wonder Card data.
great, thanks; so if i understand correctly every possible seed generates a possible spread for each pokemon/move combination? eg any of the possible mons could have the pid etc given by a seed of 0?
Well, not all spreads are possible within the RNG, as it's limited to about 4 million possible combinations from what I recall, but on the other hand that shouldn't be much of an issue if you can afford slightly different IVs, but ultimately that's something you'd want to ask the RNG app you'd be using for this. As for the moves, again, there's a separate Wonder Card for each move combination, rather than that being decided by the in-game RNG.
to my understanding this event has an issue with the seed generation such that there are only 0x10000 possible spreads. this is actually why i ask, because i play a tier where wish salamence is viable and there aren't that many good spread/nature combos with 0x10000 possible spreads - and if some of those spreads always produced, say, iron defense bagon or wish ralts there would be even fewer.
I know this thread isn't hugely active, but I trust you guys more than reddit so I'm asking this here!
For that tricky Manaphy RNG in gen 4 where you trade the egg to make it shiny... when RNGing the egg on HGSS, is it better to have all 3 roamers out (so Raikou / Entei / Lati@s) to make SURE you verified you have the right seed, or do you want 1 or 2 roamers instead?
Mainly asking this since this RNG is a one shot thing, want to make sure I'm doing this right lol. The Smogon guide didn't mention the optimal amount of roamers, and I can't seem to find it on google either. All I can find is that of course, the amount of roamers impacts your starting frame!
For that tricky Manaphy RNG in gen 4 where you trade the egg to make it shiny... when RNGing the egg on HGSS, is it better to have all 3 roamers out (so Raikou / Entei / Lati@s) to make SURE you verified you have the right seed, or do you want 1 or 2 roamers instead?
Mainly asking this since this RNG is a one shot thing, want to make sure I'm doing this right lol. The Smogon guide didn't mention the optimal amount of roamers, and I can't seem to find it on google either. All I can find is that of course, the amount of roamers impacts your starting frame!
You'll probably want all 3 roamers out just to save time identifying seeds, but aren't strictly required since you'd be verifying your seed with Irwin and/or Chatter. All 3 being out still leaves you in single-digit advances, but i've also had cases where a second-early seed still gives you the same roamer pattern as the actual target, so you won't want to lean on them exclusively. Having multiple out would only really be a problem if you have a really low (single-digit or 10's) target, but even then it's likely that the same PID can get generated at a later advance in a different seed to just dodge the problem.
(ps: i've also had few cases where the roamers are just simply incorrect for no explainable reason, so again, don't rely on them fully but just use them to save time)
Gotcha! So just for reference, normally for old gen RNGs I just aim for a highly specific IV or two somewhere (like a 0 in Attack or specific Speed IV) + Neutral Nature (due to how the super sitrus berries work, a neutral nature + mint is better than the actual regular nature. Only super relevant with Trick though!), so most of my RNGs legit don't have me advancing frames at all LOL
That's probably a bad idea to try with Manaphy considering the one shot nature here, so I'll be looking at higher amounts of frame advancements just to make sure. Just to be sure, for Manaphy as long as I RNG it in a Pokemart that doesn't have NPC screwyness (so the 2 ones in Kanto that I gotta look up again), it's the same stuff as any other method 1 RNG right?
If so, the only legendaries I've even RNGed on this run in Soul Silver are Lugia and the Arceus event Dialga, so perphaps I should start RNGing a bunch of legendaries to practice good frame advancement practices, since I haven't done a lot of that for a while on legendaries just because my low requirements for what I want in RNGs gives me a bazillion viable seeds to choose from.
Given that it's a one-shot attempt, it's probably best to just pick an arbitrary Manaphy spread that is some distance (say 50 advances) and just go for that instead of blind-shooting with none. Any mart without moving NPCs should be fine.
Otherwise, you would preferably want to test with gift Pokemon rather than statics. Manaphy is Method 1, but static legendaries are Method K, so if you want a one-to-one test you'd probably be better off with eg. Game Corner, other HoO Dragon, or others like Tentacool. The process is the same between them (Aim for target seed, use roamers as a quick yes/no, confirm exact seed with Irwin, either adjust Eontimer and go again or begin Chatter advancing), but gifts can't Synchronize and there's no guarantee that a PID will be on both encounter types of a seed. Also note that if your current profile would make Manaphy shiny, PokeFinder will do the PID reroll for you, meaning you should click to a different profile for it to actually display your target. Fairly easy target to hit (and verify with Frontier IV guy) is seed D2140289, which has a 6IV Timid method 1 at 113 (or method K at 86) and a short delay.
(also sidenote: if you switch to DP, you can use the egg determination glitch to check nature before saving, but presumably you've already put the egg in HGSS so wouldn't apply)