Doubles Milotic

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Overview
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Milotic faces large competition from other Water-types such as Suicune and Rotom-W, which have a better support movepool and dual typing, respectively. However, Milotic has a niche in its ability Competitive, which boosts its Special Attack by two stages every time one of its stats is lowered by a foe; this allows it to discourage Intimidate and Icy Wind. This allows it to become a good partner for physical attackers and patch up its average Special Attack. Milotic also has a decent support movepool, which includes moves such as Icy Wind and Safeguard, as well as good Special Defense.

Special Attacker
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name: Special Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Protect
move 4: Safeguard / Recover
ability: Competitive
item: Life Orb / Sitrus Berry
evs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
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Hydro Pump is Milotic's main STAB move and strongest attack with a good typing, hitting Pokemon such as Heatran for super effective damage. Ice Beam provides good neutral coverage and hits Grass- and Dragon-types such as Amoonguss and Latios, respectively, for super effective damage. Protect is crucial in Doubles, as it allows Milotic to scout for moves and allows Milotic's ally to deal with a threat. The last move is a filler; Safeguard can be used to provide team support by blocking status, whilst Recover could be used to increase Milotic's longevity and complement its bulk.

Set Details
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168 Speed EVs are used to outspeed Adamant Breloom and Bisharp while not hampering Milotic's bulk too much. 252 Special Attack EVs and a Modest nature are used to maximize Milotic's power. The remaining EVs go into HP to increase Milotic's bulk. Life Orb could be used to increase Milotic's power even more, whilst Sitrus Berry provides a small HP boost and prevents some attacks such as Talonflame's Brave Bird from 2HKOing it, causing them to 3HKO Milotic instead.

Usage Tips
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Milotic works well when paired with a physical attacker, as Milotic discourages Intimidate users from switching in. Milotic is also successful when working as a lead to catch Intimidate users off guard. Milotic's good special bulk allows it to switch in to neutral or not very effective special attacks, especially Icy Wind, which activates Milotic's ability. Milotic should not feel pressured to stay in if it has received a boost; switching out can sometimes be the best play, especially if a foe is threatening Milotic.

Team Options
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Milotic pairs best with physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan and Terrakion, as it can discourage Intimidate, get a Special Attack boost when it is Intimidated, and block burns with Safeguard. Grass-types such as Shaymin-S and Amoonguss can beat the Water-types that wall Milotic. The former can also beat Grass-types with its Flying-type STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran and Mega Charizard X can beat Grass-types, whilst Milotic can take out Rock- and Ground-types for them. Ground-type Pokemon such as Mamoswine can beat Electric-types, which threaten Milotic. Milotic appreciates Tailwind support from Pokemon such as Latios and Hydreigon to patch up its middling Speed. It works well with the former because Milotic beats Pokemon such as Mega Mawile and Heatran, and Latios can KO Mega Venasaur and Amoonguss.

Other Options
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Surf could be used as a Water-type STAB move that hits both foes but also Milotic's ally, Icy Wind provides team support by lowering the Speed of both foes, and Hidden Power Grass could be used to beat Water-types such as Rotom-W and Keldeo, which otherwise wall Milotic. Blizzard could be used on a hail team because it hits both foes, and Light Screen provides team support whilst allowing Milotic to check special attackers more easily. A support set consisting of Scald, Icy Wind, and Safeguard could be used, but it is very passive, so it can be manipulated and doesn't best utilize Milotic's main niche, Competitive. A Choice Specs set could be used for more power, but locks Milotic into one move, not to mention Milotic lacks the movepool to use it effectively.

Checks & Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage** Grass-type Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur can easily live a hit and retaliate back with their STAB moves. Other Grass-types, such as Shaymin-S, can revenge kill Milotic; however, they fear Ice Beam. Electric-type Pokemon such as Thundurus and Mega Manectric can outspeed and deal heavy damage to Milotic with their STAB moves, but they do not want to switch in. Rotom-W can easily live hits from and retaliate back against Milotic, and Ludicolo can live hits from Milotic and hit it hard with its Grass-type STAB moves.

**Defensive Typing Advantage** Water-types such as Azumarril and Suicune can ignore Milotic, as they can both easily take hits, and the former can hit it hard with STAB Play Rough; Suicune, on the other hand, cannot do much damage in return, and Milotic discourages it from using Icy Wind and Snarl, but it can use the opportunity to set up Tailwind. Mega Gyarados can use Milotic as setup fodder, but has to be careful not to give Milotic a boost with Intimidate. Kyurem-B can freely set up a Substitute on Milotic.

**Opposing Weather** Sun weakens Milotic's STAB moves, and Pokemon commonly found on sun teams such as Venusaur and Mega Charizard Y can handle Milotic with their Grass-type moves, such as Giga Drain and Solar Beam, respectively.
 
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Alright because lolk wanted me to do some prelim QC shit for him here I go. If this is ass, I blame Lolk and Pwnemon for being shit.

Overview:
  • I wouldn't call 100SpA as good. Better to not mention it.
  • Mention how milotic is pretty weak without a competitive boost.
  • I wouldn't label milotic as "predictable" since although it is predictable, that doesn't stop it from fulfilling its niche since there are multiple A and even S rank threats that are predictable but that doesn't hurt their viability one bit (kanga, sharp, amoong). I'd remove the predictable part entirely.
  • On the contrary, milotic doesn't have common weaknesses since electric and grass moves aren't exactly common. While it also possesses some key resists in water, ice, and fire.
  • I'd also mention how milotic has a few support moves, and not a good amount.
Set:
  • Fix the space between move 4 and safeguard.
  • For evs it should be labeled as SpA and not SpAtk
Moves and Set Details:
  • I'd mention how without sitrus berry, milotic dies too quickly but without life orb, its offensive prowess becomes subpar as opposed to two separate bullet points
  • I wouldn't list specific examples (ala saying ice beam hits mence and amoong) and rather just say it hits common grass/dragons that resist hydro pump.
  • I'm a bit iffy on even listing recover as an option since it doesn't really seem all that viable since it's a nice momentum killer and milotic will rarely if ever have the time to use it
  • Same with safeguard. You're better off just stating that it prevents status rather than specific examples
  • Pretty sure you don't have to mention competitive again in set details since it's already clear what it does in the overview.
Usage Tips:
  • Looks good. Unsure if I would advise switching into electroweb but w/e.
Team Options:
  • Don't list talonflame as a partner since sharing weaknesses isn't advised.
  • Milotic doesn't beat mega mawile.
  • Heatran doesn't beat mega venasaur.
Other Options:
  • Hypnosis is borderline unviable
  • Dragon pulse is redundant with ice beam.
  • I wouldn't mention icy wind as unsuitable for offensive sets when the only set (you listed) for milotic is offensive. If anything just leave icy wind as an OO.
Checks & Counters:
  • Don't mention how water types can't do anything in response since that's untrue since common waters (washtom, ludi, gyarados) wreck it. If anything just say that bulky waters trouble milotic because it resists milotic's water/ice coverage while also being bulky in general.
  • Don't list uncommon examples for electric types such as manec/zapdos.
  • I'd also mention how sun bothers it by weakening its stab.
 
Haruno said:
Alright because lolk wanted me to do some prelim QC shit for him here I go. If this is ass, I blame Lolk and Pwnemon for being shit.

Overview:
  • I wouldn't call 100SpA as good. Better to not mention it.
  • Mention how milotic is pretty weak without a competitive boost.
  • I wouldn't label milotic as "predictable" since although it is predictable, that doesn't stop it from fulfilling its niche since there are multiple A and even S rank threats that are predictable but that doesn't hurt their viability one bit (kanga, sharp, amoong). I'd remove the predictable part entirely.
  • On the contrary, milotic doesn't have common weaknesses since electric and grass moves aren't exactly common. While it also possesses some key resists in water, ice, and fire.
  • I'd also mention how milotic has a few support moves, and not a good amount.
Set:
  • Fix the space between move 4 and safeguard.
  • For evs it should be labeled as SpA and not SpAtk
Moves and Set Details:
  • I'd mention how without sitrus berry, milotic dies too quickly but without life orb, its offensive prowess becomes subpar as opposed to two separate bullet points
  • I wouldn't list specific examples (ala saying ice beam hits mence and amoong) and rather just say it hits common grass/dragons that resist hydro pump.
  • I'm a bit iffy on even listing recover as an option since it doesn't really seem all that viable since it's a nice momentum killer and milotic will rarely if ever have the time to use it
  • Same with safeguard. You're better off just stating that it prevents status rather than specific examples
  • Pretty sure you don't have to mention competitive again in set details since it's already clear what it does in the overview.
Usage Tips:
  • Looks good. Unsure if I would advise switching into electroweb but w/e.
Team Options:
  • Don't list talonflame as a partner since sharing weaknesses isn't advised.
  • Milotic doesn't beat mega mawile.
  • Heatran doesn't beat mega venasaur.
Other Options:
  • Hypnosis is borderline unviable
  • Dragon pulse is redundant with ice beam.
  • I wouldn't mention icy wind as unsuitable for offensive sets when the only set (you listed) for milotic is offensive. If anything just leave icy wind as an OO.
Checks & Counters:
  • Don't mention how water types can't do anything in response since that's untrue since common waters (washtom, ludi, gyarados) wreck it. If anything just say that bulky waters trouble milotic because it resists milotic's water/ice coverage while also being bulky in general.
  • Don't list uncommon examples for electric types such as manec/zapdos.
  • I'd also mention how sun bothers it by weakening its stab.
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I pretty much agree with all of this and have implemented it.
Recover and Safeguard are niche but milotic can find use for them (safeguard is nice against amoongus considering you cant always 3hko it after sitrus, and recover helps against bulkier builds with pokes like cress/tran on it)
For the electric part, there are pretty much 5 viable electric; i mentioned rotom-w, rotom-h gets outspeed and ohko'd and i forgot about thundurus so i added that.

Thanks for the rate and gl if your gonna become a qc member
 
Anty said:
I pretty much agree with all of this and have implemented it.
Recover and Safeguard are niche but milotic can find use for them (safeguard is nice against amoongus considering you cant always 3hko it after sitrus, and recover helps against bulkier builds with pokes like cress/tran on it)
For the electric part, there are pretty much 5 viable electric; i mentioned rotom-w, rotom-h gets outspeed and ohko'd and i forgot about thundurus so i added that.

Thanks for the rate and gl if your gonna become a qc member
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Honestly the fourth move itself is pretty iffy so just take that with a grain of salt since it doesn't really have that good filler.

I have no clue what spreads rotoms run but I can say they have a higher base speed than milotic so I wouldn't say milotic outspeeds and ohko's
 
Lolk said:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...-6th-gen-doubles-checks-and-counters.3497042/

Anty use these bruh
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TY and Fixed

Haruno said:
Honestly the fourth move itself is pretty iffy so just take that with a grain of salt since it doesn't really have that good filler.

I have no clue what spreads rotoms run but I can say they have a higher base speed than milotic so I wouldn't say milotic outspeeds and ohko's
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Rotom-h usually dont run any (other than creep) and the next major benchmark would be Milotics one. Either way it would be a speed tie, but milotic ohkos whilst rotom doesnt.

The fourth move is a bit of a filler. I can say with a lot of experience that hp grass and recover can both be useful. I only have tried sg is the last slot after lolk recommended, and that too is useful at times (you dont feel very pressured to attack if you dont have boosts)
 
Overview:
  • I'd say a better defensive typing instead of good resistances. The only common offensive type it resists is Fire; it's the lack of common weaknesses that's the bigger advantage.
Set:
  • I'd move HP Grass to set details tbh. It isn't worth being on the set just to hit Washtom and Keldeo. Besides, Washtom still lives a LO +2 HP Grass (which is the worst case scenario for it).
Set Details:
  • It also lets it outspeed adamant breloom, who is scarier imo
  • Sitrus lets milotic check pokes such as talonflame more easily, avoiding the 2hko with the recovery.
Usage Tips:
  • Don't say it can't take physical hits at all, just say it prefers not to take them.
  • Don't say lead with it to beat lando-t, since it will just u-turn out anyway. Just say lead with it to punish early game intimidate spam.
  • It might be worth saying that you shouldn't struggle to keep milotic in after it gets a competitive boost. If it is way more practical to switch it out, do so.
Other Options:
  • A general bulky ass supporting set with scald, icy wind, and/or safeguard. Mention how easy it is to manipulate tho
Checks & Counters:
  • Ludicolo belongs more in offensive typing advantage imo.
  • Kyurem-B can set up subs on it.
  • Emphasize that the bulky waters (add suicune btw) can easily ignore it and target Milotic's partner.
  • Since HP Grass is out of the main set, you can take out all mentions of it here.

  • Good work Anty
 
Lolk said:
Overview:
  • I'd say a better defensive typing instead of good resistances. The only common offensive type it resists is Fire; it's the lack of common weaknesses that's the bigger advantage.
Set:
  • I'd move HP Grass to set details tbh. It isn't worth being on the set just to hit Washtom and Keldeo. Besides, Washtom still lives a LO +2 HP Grass (which is the worst case scenario for it).
Set Details:
  • It also lets it outspeed adamant breloom, who is scarier imo
  • Sitrus lets milotic check pokes such as talonflame more easily, avoiding the 2hko with the recovery.
Usage Tips:
  • Don't say it can't take physical hits at all, just say it prefers not to take them.
  • Don't say lead with it to beat lando-t, since it will just u-turn out anyway. Just say lead with it to punish early game intimidate spam.
  • It might be worth saying that you shouldn't struggle to keep milotic in after it gets a competitive boost. If it is way more practical to switch it out, do so.
Other Options:
  • A general bulky ass supporting set with scald, icy wind, and/or safeguard. Mention how easy it is to manipulate tho
Checks & Counters:
  • Ludicolo belongs more in offensive typing advantage imo.
  • Kyurem-B can set up subs on it.
  • Emphasize that the bulky waters (add suicune btw) can easily ignore it and target Milotic's partner.
  • Since HP Grass is out of the main set, you can take out all mentions of it here.

  • Good work Anty
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Thanks, and updated Lolk
 
Specs would be cool in OO, +2 Modest Hydro Pump 2HKOs both Amoonguss (56.9 - 67.3%) and Cresselia (69.3 - 81.8%) and OHKOs 248/68+ Togekiss

shit ends lives is what I'm trying to say
 
Anty

I'd state in the analysis that the fourth moveslot is filler in the moves description.

OO: Add Light Screen. Add Specs too.

**Defensive Typing Advantage** Water-Types like Politoed and Suicune can ignore Milotic as they can easily take hits and target Milotic's ally. Mega Gyarados can use it as set up fodder and Kyurem-B can set up a Substitute on it
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I wouldn't mention Politoed, as Milotic can not only ignore Politoed too, but it also benefits from Politoed's rain and Icy Wind. With Suicune, you need to mention that Milotic can also ignore it from an offensive stand point too, and whilst Suicune is free to set up Tailwind against Milotic, Milotic can receive a Competitive boost from Snarl. I'd mention Suicune last in that section, as it's an iffy answer, where as Mega Gyarados and Kyurem-B are much better answers. However, must mention that Mega Gyarados should avoid activating Competitive with Intimidate in its base form. Also before Suicune mention Azumarill; not fazed by Milotic whilst it can actually hit Milotic hard if it wants. (On a side note, if Azumarill tries to set up Belly Drum in front of it, 2 LO Hydro Pumps + Belly Drum can KO Azumarill even accouting for Sitrus).

I'd also mention Mega Charizard Y in Offensive Typing advantage. Brings sun to nerf Hydro Pump, outspeeds and 2HKOes with Solarbeam.


This is good. After you make these changes, I'll give you a QC check.
 
Darkmalice said:
Anty

I'd state in the analysis that the fourth moveslot is filler in the moves description.

OO: Add Light Screen. Add Specs too.



I wouldn't mention Politoed, as Milotic can not only ignore Politoed too, but it also benefits from Politoed's rain and Icy Wind. With Suicune, you need to mention that Milotic can also ignore it from an offensive stand point too, and whilst Suicune is free to set up Tailwind against Milotic, Milotic can receive a Competitive boost from Snarl. I'd mention Suicune last in that section, as it's an iffy answer, where as Mega Gyarados and Kyurem-B are much better answers. However, must mention that Mega Gyarados should avoid activating Competitive with Intimidate in its base form. Also before Suicune mention Azumarill; not fazed by Milotic whilst it can actually hit Milotic hard if it wants. (On a side note, if Azumarill tries to set up Belly Drum in front of it, 2 LO Hydro Pumps + Belly Drum can KO Azumarill even accouting for Sitrus).

I'd also mention Mega Charizard Y in Offensive Typing advantage. Brings sun to nerf Hydro Pump, outspeeds and 2HKOes with Solarbeam.


This is good. After you make these changes, I'll give you a QC check.
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Ok, i sorted these out. I mentioned Yzard in opposing weather for C&C, since it fits there better. Thanks for the help

e: sorry ablast for not adding earlier, i just didnt see it @_@
 
I would mention Choice Specs last in OO to separate it from all the moves. It's also arguably the worse of the options in OO since Milotic doesn't have a good movepool to make use of it; it's only there because of power.

QC 2/3

Anty
 
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Overview
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Milotic seems like a mediocre choice in Doubles, due to its low attack Attack and Special Attack stats, middling Speed, (AC) and the fact that it faces large competition from other Water-types such as Suicune and Rotom-W, (AC) who which have a better support movepool and dual typing, respectively and or a dual type. However, Milotic has a niche in its ability Competitive, boosting which boosts its Special Attack by two stages every time a stat one of its stats is lowered by a foe, which; (SC) this allows it to discourage Intimidate, (AC) as well as Electroweb, (AC) and Icy Wind. This allows it to become a good partner with for physical attackers, (RC) and patch up its average Special Attack. Milotic also has a decent support movepool, (AC) which includes moves such as Icy Wind and Safeguard, (AC) as well as good Special Defense.

Special Attacker
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name: Special Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Protect
move 4: Safeguard / Recover
ability: Competitive
item: Life Orb / Sitrus Berry
evs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
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Hydro Pump is Milotic'(apostrophe)s main STAB move and strongest attack with a good typing, hitting Pokemon such as Heatran for super effective damage. Ice Beam provides good neutral coverage, hitting Grass- and Dragon-types such as Amoonguss and Latios for super effective damage. Protect is crucial in Doubles, (AC) as it allows Milotic to scout for moves and or allow your its ally to deal with a threat. The last move is a filler; Safeguard can be used to provide team support by blocking status, whilst Recovery could be used to increase Milotic'(apostrophe)s longevity as well as complementing and complement its bulk.

Set Details
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168 Speed EVs are used to outspeed Adamant Breloom and Bisharp, whilst mot cutting Milotics while not hampering Milotic's bulk bulk too much. 252 Special Attack EVs and a Modest nature are used to maximisze Milotic'(apostrophe)s power, this is helped by a Modest Nature. The remaining EVs go into HP to increase Milotic'(apostrophe)s mixed bulk. Life Orb could be used to increase its Milotic's power even more, whilst Sitrus Berry provides a small recovery HP boost and prevents some attacks from 2HKOing it, turning them into 3HKOs; Talonflame's Brave Bird, for example, while allowing it to turn 2HKOs into 3HKOs, for example, Talonflame's Brave Bird.

Usage Tips
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Milotic works well when paired with a physical attacker, as it Milotic discourages Intimidate users from switching in. It Milotic is also successful when working as a lead, to catch Intimidate users off guard. Milotic'(apostrophe)s good special bulk allows it to switch in to neutral or not very effective special attacks, especcially Icy Wind, which activates Milotic's ability. Milotic should not feel pressured to stay in if it has received a boost,; (SC) switching out can sometimes be the best play, especcially if a foe is threatening Miloticsomething is threatening it.

Team Options
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Milotic pairs best with physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan and Terrakion, as it can discourage Intimidate, or get a getting a Special Attack boost when it is Intimidated from it, and block burns with Safeguard. Grass-types, (RC) such as Shaymin-S and Amoonguss can beat Water-types that wall Milotic who otherwise wall you. The latter former can also beat Grass-types with its Flying-type STAB moves. Fire-types, (RC) such as Heatran and Mega Charizard-X Charizard X can beat Grass-types, whilst Milotic can take out Rock- and Ground-types for them. Ground-type Pokemon, (RC) such as Mamoswine, (RC) can beat Electric-types, (AC) which threaten Milotic. Milotic appreciates Tailwind support from Pokemon such as Latios and Hydreigon, to patch up its middling Speed. It works well with the former since because Milotic beats Pokemon such as Mega Mawile and Heatran, whilst and Latios can KO Mega Venasaur and Amoonguss.

Other Options
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Surf could be used as a Water-type STAB move that hits both foes but also Milotic's allyenamies, but it also hits your team mates, Icy Wind provides team support by lowering the Speed of both opponents foes, (AC) and Hidden Power [Grass] Grass could be used to beat Water-types such as Rotom-W and Keldeo which wall otherwise walls it. Blizzard could be used on a hail team since it hits both foes opponents, and Light Screen provides team support whilst allowing Milotic to check special attackers more easily. A support set of Scald, Icy Wind, (AC) and Safeguard could be used, however but it is very passive, so it can be manipulated and doesnt abuse doesn't best utilize Milotic'(apostrophe)s main niche; (RSC), (AC) Competitive. A Choice Specs set could be used for more power, however but locks forces Milotic to be locked into one move, and not to mention Milotic lacks the movepool to use it effectively.

Checks & Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage** Grass-type Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur can easily live at hit and retaliate back with their STAB moves. Other Grass-types, such as Shaymin-S, can revenge kill it however does not want to take an revenge kill Milotic but fear Ice beam. Electric-type Pokemon such as Thundurus and Mega Manectric can out speed outspeed and deal heavy damage to Milotic with their STAB moves, however but do not want to switch in. Rotom-W can easily live hits from and retaliate back against Milotic, (AC) and Ludicolo can eaily live hits Milotic hard with its Grass STAB live hits from Milotic and hit it hard with its Grass-type STAB moves.

**Defensive Typing Advantage** Water-types like such as Azumarril and Suicune can all but ignore Milotic, (AC) as they can both easily take hits, (AC) and the former can hit it hard with STAB Play Rough,; (SC) however, Suicune, (AC) on the other hand, (AC) cannot do much damage in response return, (AC) and Milotic discourages it from using Icy Wind and Snarl, however, but it can use the opportunity to set up Tailwind. Mega Gyarados can use it Milotic as set up setup fodder, but has to be careful of not giving not to give Milotic a boost with Intimidate. (add period) and Kyurem-B can freely set up a Substitute on it Milotic. (add period)

**Opposing Weather** Sun weakens Milotic's main STAB moves, and Pokemon commonly found on sun teamspartners, such as Venusaur and Mega Charizard Y, (RC) can handle Milotic with their Grass-type moves; Giga Drain and Solar Beam, respectively. (add period) can beat it with its Grass STAB, whilst Mega Charizard-Y can outspeed and 2HKO Milotic with Solarbeam
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Don't forget the apostrophe in possessives and contractions ("Milotic's," not "Milotics." "Doesn't," not "doesnt."). This is a style thing, but I don't really like the word "whilst" when people use them in these analyses It's pretty much just an alternative word to "while," and I feel it's one of those things people use to "sound more intelligent," literary, or old-fashioned. Of course, both are grammatically correct, but "while" is far more common. Again, a personal thing. Don't use "as well as" to be a substitute for "and." "As well as" places more emphasis on what succeeds it than what precedes it. Think of it almost as if it had this structure: "X as well as Y" becomes "not only X but also Y." See how there's much more emphasis on the last term? That's what you want to watch out for; you can't just drop it in place of "and." Also, just generally look through your work for easy-to-catch spelling and even grammar errors. You could use some proofreading.
 
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Overview
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Milotic seems like a mediocre choice in Doubles, due to its low attack Attack and Special Attack stats, middling Speed, (AC) and the fact that it faces large competition from other Water-types such as Suicune and Rotom-W, (AC) who which have a better support movepool and dual typing, respectively and or a dual type. However, Milotic has a niche in its ability Competitive, boosting which boosts its Special Attack by two stages every time a stat one of its stats is lowered by a foe, which; (SC) this allows it to discourage Intimidate, (AC) as well as Electroweb, (AC) and Icy Wind. This allows it to become a good partner with for physical attackers, (RC) and patch up its average Special Attack. Milotic also has a decent support movepool, (AC) which includes moves such as Icy Wind and Safeguard, (AC) as well as good Special Defense.

Special Attacker
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name: Special Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Protect
move 4: Safeguard / Recover
ability: Competitive
item: Life Orb / Sitrus Berry
evs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
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Hydro Pump is Milotic'(apostrophe)s main STAB move and strongest attack with a good typing, hitting Pokemon such as Heatran for super effective damage. Ice Beam provides good neutral coverage, hitting Grass- and Dragon-types such as Amoonguss and Latios for super effective damage. Protect is crucial in Doubles, (AC) as it allows Milotic to scout for moves and or allow your its ally to deal with a threat. The last move is a filler; Safeguard can be used to provide team support by blocking status, whilst Recovery could be used to increase Milotic'(apostrophe)s longevity as well as complementing and complement its bulk.

Set Details
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168 Speed EVs are used to outspeed Adamant Breloom and Bisharp, whilst mot cutting Milotics while not hampering Milotic's bulk bulk too much. 252 Special Attack EVs and a Modest nature are used to maximisze Milotic'(apostrophe)s power, this is helped by a Modest Nature. The remaining EVs go into HP to increase Milotic'(apostrophe)s mixed bulk. Life Orb could be used to increase its Milotic's power even more, whilst Sitrus Berry provides a small recovery HP boost and prevents some attacks from 2HKOing it, turning them into 3HKOs; Talonflame's Brave Bird, for example, while allowing it to turn 2HKOs into 3HKOs, for example, Talonflame's Brave Bird.

Usage Tips
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Milotic works well when paired with a physical attacker, as it Milotic discourages Intimidate users from switching in. It Milotic is also successful when working as a lead, to catch Intimidate users off guard. Milotic'(apostrophe)s good special bulk allows it to switch in to neutral or not very effective special attacks, especcially Icy Wind, which activates Milotic's ability. Milotic should not feel pressured to stay in if it has received a boost,; (SC) switching out can sometimes be the best play, especcially if a foe is threatening Miloticsomething is threatening it.

Team Options
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Milotic pairs best with physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan and Terrakion, as it can discourage Intimidate, or get a getting a Special Attack boost when it is Intimidated from it, and block burns with Safeguard. Grass-types, (RC) such as Shaymin-S and Amoonguss can beat Water-types that wall Milotic who otherwise wall you. The latter former can also beat Grass-types with its Flying-type STAB moves. Fire-types, (RC) such as Heatran and Mega Charizard-X Charizard X can beat Grass-types, whilst Milotic can take out Rock- and Ground-types for them. Ground-type Pokemon, (RC) such as Mamoswine, (RC) can beat Electric-types, (AC) which threaten Milotic. Milotic appreciates Tailwind support from Pokemon such as Latios and Hydreigon, to patch up its middling Speed. It works well with the former since because Milotic beats Pokemon such as Mega Mawile and Heatran, whilst and Latios can KO Mega Venasaur and Amoonguss.

Other Options
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Surf could be used as a Water-type STAB move that hits both foes but also Milotic's allyenamies, but it also hits your team mates, Icy Wind provides team support by lowering the Speed of both opponents foes, (AC) and Hidden Power [Grass] Grass could be used to beat Water-types such as Rotom-W and Keldeo which wall otherwise walls it. Blizzard could be used on a hail team since it hits both foes opponents, and Light Screen provides team support whilst allowing Milotic to check special attackers more easily. A support set of Scald, Icy Wind, (AC) and Safeguard could be used, however but it is very passive, so it can be manipulated and doesnt abuse doesn't best utilize Milotic'(apostrophe)s main niche; (RSC), (AC) Competitive. A Choice Specs set could be used for more power, however but locks forces Milotic to be locked into one move, and not to mention Milotic lacks the movepool to use it effectively.

Checks & Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage** Grass-type Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur can easily live at hit and retaliate back with their STAB moves. Other Grass-types, such as Shaymin-S, can revenge kill it however does not want to take an revenge kill Milotic but fear Ice beam. Electric-type Pokemon such as Thundurus and Mega Manectric can out speed outspeed and deal heavy damage to Milotic with their STAB moves, however but do not want to switch in. Rotom-W can easily live hits from and retaliate back against Milotic, (AC) and Ludicolo can eaily live hits Milotic hard with its Grass STAB live hits from Milotic and hit it hard with its Grass-type STAB moves.

**Defensive Typing Advantage** Water-types like such as Azumarril and Suicune can all but ignore Milotic, (AC) as they can both easily take hits, (AC) and the former can hit it hard with STAB Play Rough,; (SC) however, Suicune, (AC) on the other hand, (AC) cannot do much damage in response return, (AC) and Milotic discourages it from using Icy Wind and Snarl, however, but it can use the opportunity to set up Tailwind. Mega Gyarados can use it Milotic as set up setup fodder, but has to be careful of not giving not to give Milotic a boost with Intimidate. (add period) and Kyurem-B can freely set up a Substitute on it Milotic. (add period)

**Opposing Weather** Sun weakens Milotic's main STAB moves, and Pokemon commonly found on sun teamspartners, such as Venusaur and Mega Charizard Y, (RC) can handle Milotic with their Grass-type moves; Giga Drain and Solar Beam, respectively. (add period) can beat it with its Grass STAB, whilst Mega Charizard-Y can outspeed and 2HKO Milotic with Solarbeam
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Don't forget the apostrophe in possessives and contractions ("Milotic's," not "Milotics." "Doesn't," not "doesnt."). This is a style thing, but I don't really like the word "whilst" when people use them in these analyses It's pretty much just an alternative word to "while," and I feel it's one of those things people use to "sound more intelligent," literary, or old-fashioned. Of course, both are grammatically correct, but "while" is far more common. Again, a personal thing. Don't use "as well as" to be a substitute for "and." "As well as" places more emphasis on what succeeds it than what precedes it. Think of it almost as if it had this structure: "X as well as Y" becomes "not only X but also Y." See how there's much more emphasis on the last term? That's what you want to watch out for; you can't just drop it in place of "and." Also, just generally look through your work for easy-to-catch spelling and even grammar errors. You could use some proofreading.
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Thanks for the check. Most of the time I use phrases like 'as well as' to try and prevent repetition, other mistakes like with semicolons are from laziness in typing (often on PS!) which has become a habit (also I ignore those autocorrects by habit).
 
Overview
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Milotic seems like a mediocre choice in Doubles, (RC) due to its low Attack and Special Attack stats, middling Speed, (AC) and the fact that it faces large competition from other Water-types such as Suicune and Rotom-W, which have a better support movepool and dual typing, respectively. However, Milotic has a niche in its ability Competitive, which boosts its Special Attack by two stages every time one of its stats is lowered by a foe; this allows it to discourage Intimidate, Electroweb, and Icy Wind. This allows it to become a good partner for physical attackers and patch up its average Special Attack. Milotic also has a decent support movepool, which includes moves such as Icy Wind and Safeguard, as well as good Special Defense.

Special Attacker
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name: Special Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Protect
move 4: Safeguard / Recover
ability: Competitive
item: Life Orb / Sitrus Berry
evs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
========

Hydro Pump is Milotic's main STAB move and strongest attack with a good typing, hitting Pokemon such as Heatran for super effective damage. Ice Beam provides good neutral coverage, (RC) hitting and hits (there is nothing wrong with how the sentence currently is, but it sounds really repetitive with the previous sentence following the exact structure) Grass- and Dragon-types such as Amoonguss and Latios, (AC) respectively, (AC) for super effective damage. Protect is crucial in Doubles, as it allows Milotic to scout for moves and allows Milotic's its ally to deal with a threat. The last move is a filler; Safeguard can be used to provide team support by blocking status, whilst Recover could be used to increase Milotic's longevity and complement its bulk.

Set Details
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168 Speed EVs are used to outspeed Adamant Breloom and Bisharp, (RC) while not hampering Milotic's bulk too much. 252 Special Attack EVs and a Modest nature are used to maximize Milotic's power. The remaining EVs go into HP to increase Milotic's bulk. Life Orb could be used to increase Milotic's power even more, whilst Sitrus Berry provides a small HP boost and prevents some attacks such as Talonflame's Brave Bird from 2HKOing it, causing them to 3HKO Milotic instead. turning them into 3HKOs; Talonflame's Brave Bird, for example.

Usage Tips
========

Milotic works well when paired with a physical attacker, as Milotic discourages Intimidate users from switching in. Milotic is also successful when working as a lead, (RC) to catch Intimidate users off guard. Milotic's good special bulk allows it to switch in to neutral or not very effective special attacks, especially Icy Wind, which activates Milotic's ability. Milotic should not feel pressured to stay in if it has received a boost; switching out can sometimes be the best play, especially if a foe is threatening Milotic.

Team Options
========

Milotic pairs best with physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan and Terrakion, as it can discourage Intimidate, getting a Special Attack boost when it is Intimidated, and block burns with Safeguard. Grass-types such as Shaymin-S and Amoonguss can beat the Water-types that wall Milotic. The former can also beat Grass-types with its Flying-type STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran and Mega Charizard X can beat Grass-types, whilst Milotic can take out Rock- and Ground-types for them. Ground-type Pokemon such as Mamoswine can beat Electric-types, which threaten Milotic. Milotic appreciates Tailwind support from Pokemon such as Latios and Hydreigon, (RC) to patch up its middling Speed. It works well with the former because Milotic beats Pokemon such as Mega Mawile and Heatran, and Latios can KO Mega Venasaur and Amoonguss.

Other Options
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Surf could be used as a Water-type STAB move that hits both foes but also Milotic's ally, Icy Wind provides team support by lowering the Speed of both foes, and Hidden Power Grass could be used to beat Water-types such as Rotom-W and Keldeo, (AC) which otherwise walls it Milotic. Blizzard could be used on a hail team since because it hits both foes, and Light Screen provides team support whilst allowing Milotic to check special attackers more easily. A support set consisting of Scald, Icy Wind, and Safeguard could be used, but it is very passive, so it can be manipulated and doesn't best utilize Milotic's main niche, Competitive. A Choice Specs set could be used for more power, but locks Milotic into one move, not to mention Milotic lacks the movepool to use it effectively.

Checks & Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage** Grass-type Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur can easily live a hit and retaliate back with their STAB moves. Other Grass-types, such as Shaymin-S, can revenge kill Milotic; (semi) however, (AC) they but fear Ice Beam. Electric-type Pokemon such as Thundurus and Mega Manectric can outspeed and deal heavy damage to Milotic with their STAB moves, but they do not want to switch in. Rotom-W can easily live hits from and retaliate back against Milotic, and Ludicolo can live hits from Milotic and hit it hard with its Grass-type STAB moves.

**Defensive Typing Advantage** Water-types such as Azumarril and Suicune can all but ignore Milotic, as they can both easily take hits, and the former can hit it hard with STAB Play Rough; Suicune, on the other hand, cannot do much damage in return, and Milotic discourages it from using Icy Wind and Snarl, but it can use the opportunity to set up Tailwind. Mega Gyarados can use Milotic as setup fodder, but has to be careful not to give Milotic a boost with Intimidate. Kyurem-B can freely set up a Substitute on Milotic.

**Opposing Weather** Sun weakens Milotic's STAB moves, and Pokemon commonly found on sun teams, (RC) such as Venusaur and Mega Charizard Y can handle Milotic with their Grass-type moves;, (semi -> comma) such as Giga Drain and Solar Beam, respectively.

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Overview
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Milotic seems like a mediocre choice in Doubles, (RC) due to its low Attack and Special Attack stats, middling Speed, (AC) and the fact that it faces large competition from other Water-types such as Suicune and Rotom-W, which have a better support movepool and dual typing, respectively. However, Milotic has a niche in its ability Competitive, which boosts its Special Attack by two stages every time one of its stats is lowered by a foe; this allows it to discourage Intimidate, Electroweb, and Icy Wind. This allows it to become a good partner for physical attackers and patch up its average Special Attack. Milotic also has a decent support movepool, which includes moves such as Icy Wind and Safeguard, as well as good Special Defense.

Special Attacker
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name: Special Attacker
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Ice Beam
move 3: Protect
move 4: Safeguard / Recover
ability: Competitive
item: Life Orb / Sitrus Berry
evs: 88 HP / 252 SpA / 168 Spe
nature: Modest

Moves
========

Hydro Pump is Milotic's main STAB move and strongest attack with a good typing, hitting Pokemon such as Heatran for super effective damage. Ice Beam provides good neutral coverage, (RC) hitting and hits (there is nothing wrong with how the sentence currently is, but it sounds really repetitive with the previous sentence following the exact structure) Grass- and Dragon-types such as Amoonguss and Latios, (AC) respectively, (AC) for super effective damage. Protect is crucial in Doubles, as it allows Milotic to scout for moves and allows Milotic's its ally to deal with a threat. The last move is a filler; Safeguard can be used to provide team support by blocking status, whilst Recover could be used to increase Milotic's longevity and complement its bulk.

Set Details
========

168 Speed EVs are used to outspeed Adamant Breloom and Bisharp, (RC) while not hampering Milotic's bulk too much. 252 Special Attack EVs and a Modest nature are used to maximize Milotic's power. The remaining EVs go into HP to increase Milotic's bulk. Life Orb could be used to increase Milotic's power even more, whilst Sitrus Berry provides a small HP boost and prevents some attacks such as Talonflame's Brave Bird from 2HKOing it, causing them to 3HKO Milotic instead. turning them into 3HKOs; Talonflame's Brave Bird, for example.

Usage Tips
========

Milotic works well when paired with a physical attacker, as Milotic discourages Intimidate users from switching in. Milotic is also successful when working as a lead, (RC) to catch Intimidate users off guard. Milotic's good special bulk allows it to switch in to neutral or not very effective special attacks, especially Icy Wind, which activates Milotic's ability. Milotic should not feel pressured to stay in if it has received a boost; switching out can sometimes be the best play, especially if a foe is threatening Milotic.

Team Options
========

Milotic pairs best with physical attackers, such as Mega Kangaskhan and Terrakion, as it can discourage Intimidate, getting a Special Attack boost when it is Intimidated, and block burns with Safeguard. Grass-types such as Shaymin-S and Amoonguss can beat the Water-types that wall Milotic. The former can also beat Grass-types with its Flying-type STAB moves. Fire-types such as Heatran and Mega Charizard X can beat Grass-types, whilst Milotic can take out Rock- and Ground-types for them. Ground-type Pokemon such as Mamoswine can beat Electric-types, which threaten Milotic. Milotic appreciates Tailwind support from Pokemon such as Latios and Hydreigon, (RC) to patch up its middling Speed. It works well with the former because Milotic beats Pokemon such as Mega Mawile and Heatran, and Latios can KO Mega Venasaur and Amoonguss.

Other Options
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Surf could be used as a Water-type STAB move that hits both foes but also Milotic's ally, Icy Wind provides team support by lowering the Speed of both foes, and Hidden Power Grass could be used to beat Water-types such as Rotom-W and Keldeo, (AC) which otherwise walls it Milotic. Blizzard could be used on a hail team since because it hits both foes, and Light Screen provides team support whilst allowing Milotic to check special attackers more easily. A support set consisting of Scald, Icy Wind, and Safeguard could be used, but it is very passive, so it can be manipulated and doesn't best utilize Milotic's main niche, Competitive. A Choice Specs set could be used for more power, but locks Milotic into one move, not to mention Milotic lacks the movepool to use it effectively.

Checks & Counters
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**Offensive Typing Advantage** Grass-type Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Mega Venusaur can easily live a hit and retaliate back with their STAB moves. Other Grass-types, such as Shaymin-S, can revenge kill Milotic; (semi) however, (AC) they but fear Ice Beam. Electric-type Pokemon such as Thundurus and Mega Manectric can outspeed and deal heavy damage to Milotic with their STAB moves, but they do not want to switch in. Rotom-W can easily live hits from and retaliate back against Milotic, and Ludicolo can live hits from Milotic and hit it hard with its Grass-type STAB moves.

**Defensive Typing Advantage** Water-types such as Azumarril and Suicune can all but ignore Milotic, as they can both easily take hits, and the former can hit it hard with STAB Play Rough; Suicune, on the other hand, cannot do much damage in return, and Milotic discourages it from using Icy Wind and Snarl, but it can use the opportunity to set up Tailwind. Mega Gyarados can use Milotic as setup fodder, but has to be careful not to give Milotic a boost with Intimidate. Kyurem-B can freely set up a Substitute on Milotic.

**Opposing Weather** Sun weakens Milotic's STAB moves, and Pokemon commonly found on sun teams, (RC) such as Venusaur and Mega Charizard Y can handle Milotic with their Grass-type moves;, (semi -> comma) such as Giga Drain and Solar Beam, respectively.

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