Lucario(Mixed Revenge Killer)

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Lucario is an amazingly diverse pokemon with extremely good mixed stats, with both over 110. Another very cool thing about Lucario is an Access to several priority moves, including the extremely coveted extremespeed. He is also one of the, if not the fastest offensive priority user. I got this idea from a dude in random matchup who wasn't an EV trainer, but had Extreme speed and Dark pulse on a lucario.


Lucario- Mixed Revenge
Moves
Move1: Vacuum Wave
Move2: Extremespeed
Move3:Dark pulse/ Shadow ball
Move4: Bullet punch/aura sphere
Item: Choice Scarf/ Life Orb
Ability: Any of the three
Nature: Naive/Hasty
EVS: 252 Attack/ 244 Sp.Attack/ 12 Speed

SET COMMENTS

This guy is focused on priority attacks and hitting hard to kill a weakened opponent. vacuum wave is the priority special attack that you attack with. Lucky for Lucario, he had tremendous mixed stats and stab on this attacks. Extremespeed is your physical attack, and no doubt the best offenisively. 80 base power is twice as much as other priority attacks as well as a higher priority, at +2 instead of +1. If you don't know, both of these attacks don't touch pokemon of the ghost type. That is where Dark pulse or shadow ball comes in. Which one you choose is up to you. Some people like the possible defensive drop of shadow ball, and some prefer the possible flinch of the Dark Pulse. Bullet punch is my fourth attack. It is kind of a filler. Another idea was aura sphere. Due to the evasion clause, the 1,000,000,000% accuracy isn't really that useful. What is useful is the fact that it is special.


CHECKS AND COUNTERS

If you run the Choice Scarf Set, you risk walking in on a revenge kill and then the next pokemon sent out being ghost. While not to common to the smogon server, but seemingly common on the youtube battles you see, Cofagrigus could totally wall this set. Another big ghost that poses a threat to the set is Jellicent. While not as bulky, chandelure can come in on an attack and not take anything and respond with a ridiculously powerful fire attack, which lucario is weak to.


COMMENT: While I know that a lot of people are masters at breeding, both Vacuum wave and Bullet punch are egg moves and unless you use move modifier cheat codes on a father, your only option is Hitmonchan.

PARTNERS

Flying types without a weakness to fire are very useful. Gliscor is a really good partner because if you tried a type chart, gliscor resists all the types lucario is weak to and lucario covers most of the types gliscor is weak to.


PLEASE RESPOND, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS. JUST AN "IT IS NICE AND INTERESTING" WOULD BE GOOD
 
He is also one of the, if not the fastest offensive priority user.
Great Sage is the fastest user, who also makes it a priority to muzzle offensive members.

God that was a terrible joke.

Deoxys-S is the fastest offensive priority user, derpula.

K, I'll stop now.

Lucario already has a Choice Scarf set on its analysis. I'll say GG to this thread for you.

GG thread.
 
Great Sage is the fastest user, who also makes it a priority to muzzle offensive members.

God that was a terrible joke.

Deoxys-S is the fastest offensive priority user, derpula.

K, I'll stop now.

Lucario already has a Choice Scarf set on its analysis. I'll say GG to this thread for you.

GG thread.

If you didn't read in my analysis, I said OFFENSIVE PRIORITY. This means people like Breloom or Conkeldurr. I know Deoxys speed gets Extremespeed, but I know very few people who set out to make deoxys-S hit like a truck, for most use him for E. Hazards.
 
Why would you choice scarf weak priority moves? That's just asking to get set up on. I doubt this even OHKOs the stuff it needs to.
 
In my opinion, the set should be like this, for coverage and firepower reasons
Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Inner Focus
- ExtremeSpeed
- Vacuum Wave
- Close Combat
- Dark Pulse
I have no idea about EV spread and nature, some calcs should be done
 
I think you should change Lucario's set to "Mixed Sweeper," since LO priority is not enough to make Lucario an effective revenge killer. However, Lucario can actually do work with Mixed Sweeper by luring in conventional Fighting checks and taking them out for your other Fighting-type or other physical Sweepers. Here's the set that I'm thinking:

name: Mixed Wallbreaker
move 1: Close Combat
move 2: Hidden Power Ice
move 3: Dark Pulse
move 4: ExtremeSpeed / Stone Edge
item: Life Orb
nature: Naughty (+Atk, -SpD)
evs: 116 Atk / 140 SpA / 252 Spe


With these EVs, Lucario 2HKOs the standard Jellicent (w/ SR), Slowbro, Reuniclus, and non specially-defensive Celebi & Mew with Dark Pulse. Lucario also OHKOs Gliscor and 2HKOs physically defensive Hippowdon & Tangrowth with HP Ice.

Stone Edge is primarily to nail Gyarados or Volcarona who tries to set up on Lucario, but ExtremeSpeed's priority can always come in handy. Close Combat still packs enough punch to OHKO Blissey, max HP Heatran, and Chansey (after SR). Standard Ferrothorn spread (252 / 88+) has a slim chance of being one-shotted, whereas Quagsire risks a 2HKO after little residual damage.
 
Yea, I just read his OP - my bad for not doing it sooner.

I think Swords Dance + Bullet Punch & ExtremeSpeed does this priority-killing much better than mixed weak Vacuum Wave & ExtremeSpeed; plus it does not have problems against Gengar.
 
I gather that this set is meant to revenge kill though, and SD sort of ruins the concept. I suppose it could be run over Vacuum Wave...
 
I wouldn't touch this set with a 50 foot pole. There are more things wrong with it than right. Take a look around the rest of the forum, and see how other people are doing things, then try again.
 
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