How have your past girlfriend/boyfriend relationships been?

[MrIndigo]

Never had one. I would sorta like a boyfriend but seeing how difficult that thing is around here...

I think I would LIKE to try trusting someone with my true self sometime. Just sometime, maybe. But it just feels so wrong...

edit: I'm most likely dying alone heh

I'm assuming you're gay, right? Are you in university/college yet?

A friend of mine from my university classes has been gay (Well, Kinsey 5, so slightly bisexual) since he was in Year 6, about age 12. He didn't tell anyone until this year; he had been on an exchange trip to UCLA or UCSB or something, and he was hanging out with a group of people there, many of whom were gay/bi/lesbian. He came out to them, because he figured that if there was going to be a bad reaction, it would be worse in the USA than in Australia and if he didn't like the outcome, none of his friends at home would have to find out.

In both locations, noone gave a toss.

My point is that these days, the vast majority of university-age, educated kids are aware enough of homosexuality that none of them will care at all. In fact, the university demographic is probably higher than the standard 11% non-heterosexual of society at large, just because university students tend to experiment with sexuality among everything else after leaving the nest.

I would advise not asking out any of your friends after you come out, wait for them to ask you to avoid potential awkwardness. Finding out whether someone you're interested in is gay can be difficult, particularly if they're not flamboyant about it; I've been told by many of my gay male friends that it can be quite difficult for gay guys to find a stable long-term relationship because the bar scene is much more of a tap on the shoulder and a nod toward the toilets, which is unfortunate.

However, most colleges/universities have a Queer Society, who do various things about counselling and fighting for gay rights, but it is worth joining them just for the ability to meet a lot of similar-minded people.

 

[MrIndigo]

By the way, just a slightly random piece of advice to anyone here. Do NOT try to be nice to a girl to be friends first, and then try to start a more serious relationship. It does not work like that. Flirt, but don't get too close until the real relationship starts.

QFT, with a slight correction; it's okay to be nice to girls first, and be friends. In my case, I don't ask people out that I wouldn't consider a friend already, because if you're in a relationship (as in, long-term) you should be best friends.

What you SHOULD NOT do is let yourself get too heartset on the person before asking them out. It is a common mistake with people my age and younger when they like someone. They let their feelings build up into a near-obsession, and so when they finally ask the person out, rejection (or accepting, but then the relationship not really going anywhere after the first couple of dates) is crushing.

If there's a person that you get along with, think is kind of cool, and you wouldn't mind doing the genital hoopla with them, then ask them out; it's just dating, not marriage. If you go out a few times, and it doesn't work out, then at least you know and you're not torturing yourself forever over missed chances. If it does work out, fantastic.

 

[mf]

What you SHOULD NOT do is let yourself get too heartset on the person before asking them out. It is a common mistake with people my age and younger when they like someone. They let their feelings build up into a near-obsession, and so when they finally ask the person out, rejection (or accepting, but then the relationship not really going anywhere after the first couple of dates) is crushing.

yep this

 

[ivar]

I know it's probably a good idea to never ignore suicide threats, but I can tell ya first hand that they're just vague threats designed to generate sympathy. I blame it on being 15. In retrospect I made an utter fool of myself in my second ever relationship so I could... pity my ex back. i'm disgusted with myself as i type this and I don't even want to talk about it beyond that.

Currently not in a relationship though I do want one I'm just unwillling to even date under the pretense of a relationship unless i'm totally interested and just opt for sex instead and keep some girls for booty calls later on. You'd be surprised how much sex one get with "well there's nothing to do right now wanna have sex?"

I did have a nice thing with this one girl but it ultiamtely didn't work out.

i think the most ive clicked with a girl in recent times was high school prom and it was my friends date :P I couldn't help myself she was just way too cool and stunning absolutely stunning and totally graceful like January Jones in Mad Men. As soon as my friend went to the washroom I immediately asked her to dance (he does that shit all the time so no biggie). Unfortunately she was a year younger and i was going to university later, plus she lived kinda far away... but I still think about her from time to time!

Let's see, girlfriend gets pregnant one day and tells my entire family before she tells me. Does that sound like a good relationship to you?

Well, I'm in no hurry to have my heart broken again so ...

Now objection please elaborate because I thought you never had sex/never plan on having sex yet now you've gotten a girl pregnant?!

 

[Objection]

Now objection please elaborate because I thought you never had sex/never plan on having sex yet now you've gotten a girl pregnant?!

My girlfriend becoming pregnant =/= I got her pregnant. Why do you think I broke up with her in the first place?

And the bit about me being a virgin and never planning on having sex is correct btw.

 

[Eraddd]

My girlfriend becoming pregnant =/= I got her pregnant. Why do you think I broke up with her in the first place?

And the bit about me being a virgin and never planning on having sex is correct btw.

That's a huge slap to the face. I feel sorry for you man.

Anyways, relationships have been nonexistent due to my social awkwardness.

 

[Fishy]

Wow, pregnancy sure is a giveaway that you're dating a cheating whore. I'm sorry love, that's terrible. I really believe that cheating is the lowest thing that you can do in a relationship, and I've only felt the tip of the iceberg of such an ordeal, with me being the bad guy. With my first boyfriend ever, we were together for about a year total, and around the 10/11th month mark, he explained to me that "we can't have a long distance relationship after I leave for school, you know that it can't work, we're going to break up at the end of the year."

So uh, yeah, I was like 16 and a sophmore in high school, and he a graduating senior, so I felt pretty much alone after that, even though we were still "together." So a week or so later I decided to hang out with my neighbor, and he kissed me. It was a really weird feeling, knowing that I wasn't single but I was still kissing someone different other than my boyfriend. I was still very naive at this age, but I know that as soon as I saw my boyfriend the next day at school, I felt so much guilt and regret that I nearly broke down, and all I did was swap spit with another guy. I really, really can't imagine how people can have sex with people whom they're not in love with, that is the ultimate low. Even knowing that my ex boyfriend kissed a lot of girls while we were together could never be as bad as if he had fucked them all as well (but had that been the case, I never would have stayed with him after the first one).

 

[MrIndigo]

@Obj: That's pretty awful times. Did your plans to never have sex start before or after that?

People cheating really annoys me. I mean, if you're not happy with the relationship END IT. There shouldn't be a reason to cheat if you have a happy relationship. By seeing another person behind your S.O.'s back, you're just going to make it harder on them when it finally does end, and you're just bogarting your S.O. from the rest of the dating population who might be more interested than you.

I hate bet-hedging, I see that quite a bit too (I suspect it was what was going on with Caitlin and her now-boyfriend); the person is in a relationship, and they think they'd have a better one with someone else, but instead of just breaking it off and going for the new person, they don't want the risk of the new person not working out, so they wait until it's a sure thing before leaving the previous relationship.

If you want someone else, then you're clearly not happy with your current relationship, and you should end it. Not use them as a safety net.


EDIT: Also, how fucking dumb do you have to be to cheat and not take precautions to prevent discovery? Protection is so readily available.

In any case, Objection, you shouldn't let the one bad first time stop you from having a good one in the future. My first (and only) girlfriend is a diagnosed psychopath who made me mentally ill after she broke up with me with continual manipulation and torment. I've been rejected numerous times since. Hasn't stopped me looking.

 

[The_Fallen]

Represent, Objection. I don't plan on having sex at all either. I hate it when people call you gay for that though. Not wanting sex =/= liking others of the same gender. It's also not true that I'm depressed and hate the world that I'm living in and the people living in it, (although, there are some people...), it's just that I really don't see what the big deal is. I have more important things to do than constantly worrying about women.

 

[Objection]

@Obj: That's pretty awful times. Did your plans to never have sex start before or after that?

Mainly after, but rest assured, that incident did not have anything to do with this decision.

 

[MrIndigo]

Mainly after, but rest assured, that incident did not have anything to do with this decision.

How sure are you about that? That kind of betrayal is going to leave a mark in your deeper conscious, so I would be surprised if it wasn't partially influential in your now-worldview.

 

[andrea]

How sure are you about that? That kind of betrayal is going to leave a mark in your deeper conscious, so I would be surprised if it wasn't partially influential in your now-worldview.

Well, I think I can say that something like that wouldn't make you decide that in the first place- it would probably just reinforce your decision.

I can relate however. No sex for me, as well.

 

[Navy]

I say now in days, All girls are the same. No girl has proved me wrong, now most girls complain about "Omg all i end up talking to are Assholes who only want 1 thing", and how they supposedly attract them. But they try to cover it up, when it's really her chasing the Asshole guy. And, what you chase is what you get.


But yeah, I only been in 1 relationship in the past 2 years. And it was only for 1 week.



My first true love played me 4 times. I kept falling to her same story's, i was basically walking blind when it came to her. She kept giving me hopes, i fell for them. When she got she wanted "Getting back with her EX" she putt me aside, and then a shitload of drama started coming around. It's just crazy, i look back. And i learned so much!! in just a few weeks. Of me stressing, not knowing what to do. Not being able to move on, Because you know that's your first true love. And your not gonna give up on it.
That girl got me into so much shit!!. That i putt her in front of my all friends. When my friends kept telling me, to stop talking to her. Because they knew she was up to no good after the 1st time she played me. And I just didn't listen, i was always focused on her. My friends started acting weird towards me. It was just a bad feeling, that they we're trying to help and i couldn't see it. And when i saw it, it was already to late. They're respect towards me had kinda died.


So the last time she played me out. i was through with her little games , I few weeks before the 3rd time she played me. She invited her Best Friend to her Grandmas B-Day, i met her we talked etc etc. I kind of notice through out the whole B-Day she couldn't stop staring at me, she would always find a way to get my attention, and that same day we became close friends.


So when me and my first true love, we're basically done. Her best friend started hitting me up, texting me, Myspace etc. And i was just there, and we had that bond, we talked forever. So 1 day she tells me to pass through her job, and i decided to go and chill with her. Soo we're there in her job, chilling talking having a good time, and when her brake was over. I was gonna walk away and not give her a kiss in the cheek, just to get her mad. And she kinda yells at me, "Aren't you forgetting something" And i answered "Am i?!?"...I was nervous, because i knew that was the right time to make my move. So i slowly approached her, and we're facing each other face to face..but i guess she was nervous also. She couldn't look at me straight in the face. Soo when i asked her "What was i forgetting" She gave me the most random kiss i ever got from any girl. And that's when i asked her out.


3 days after we started dating. It turns out, her best friend "My first true love". Started spreading rumors about her around the School. She was hating hard as hell on her relationship with me. I couldn't, watching her get putt in a hole. When its all because of me all the shit was happening. So 2 days after i just couldn't take the "People talking shit, this and that" And i told her, we needed to end it. We kinda rushed into the relationship. I got love for you, but that isn't gonna cut it.


I felt bad!!. But i really cared for her, she was a Senior. And i didn't want her to be in stress in her most important year. She understood after a few days, she moved on. I moved on. But i remain single and pretty much gonna stay single. Maybe until i hit college. These girls are young retarded girls, Who can't get over an idiot. Not even girls who are 17 18 over here, don't know whats good for them. Always on that Myspace bullshit posting all they're life happenings. But yeah that's my story =]

 

[fishandpokemon]

My ex girlfriend and I broke up before christmas break. It was really tuff cause she kept saying how she "liked me alot" one day and then say "I hate you" the next. Well thats life for ya, all I have to say is sit back and enjoy the ride. You might be getting off soon.

 

[andrea]

I say now in days, All girls are the same. No girl has proved me wrong, now most girls complain about "Omg all i end up talking to are Assholes who only want 1 thing", and how they supposedly attract them. But they try to cover it up, when it's really her chasing the Asshole guy. And, what you chase is what you get.

Wow. I see you haven't paid much attention to the posts in this thread already. There are a number of girls in here, and that label does NOT apply to all of us. *rolls eyes*

3 days after we started dating. It turns out, her best friend "My first true love". Started spreading rumors about her around the School. She was hating hard as hell on her relationship with me. I couldn't, watching her get putt in a hole. When its all because of me all the shit was happening. So 2 days after i just couldn't take the "People talking shit, this and that" And i told her, we needed to end it. We kinda rushed into the relationship. I got love for you, but that isn't gonna cut it.


I felt bad!!. But i really cared for her, she was a Senior. And i didn't want her to be in stress in her most important year. She understood after a few days, she moved on. I moved on.

I think it's nice that you cared for her enough to end it due to the stress on her, but don't you think that maybe you rushed into ending the relationship? If you really liked her as much as you say, it seems like you could keep it going. It sucks when people talk about you behind your back, but you just gotta tough it out. It dies down after awhile- people lose interest.

But, I mean, it's over and done with. So whatever, lol.

 

[Fishy]

Navy, how old are you even? I noticed you said your "true love"'s best friend was a Senior, but frankly your outlook/opinion on love/girlfriends in general seems pretty immature. There isn't some magical transformation in girls when they're in college, haha. They're either sluttier, or they're actually mature, and if it's the latter case, they probably were before in high school.

 

[MrIndigo]

I think that's the case in general, but I know a lot of girls who matured after coming to university, in the sense that they wanted a boyfriend for reasons other than "It is important to have a boyfriend because if I don't then I'm a loser" which is the standard high school motivation.

You do get people who get worse, like college girls (college here is an institution on campus where students can live, I think it's similar to sororities/fraternaties) and breakaways, but the majority of girls who go on to uni are the mature ones, so the demographic percentages shift heavily in favour of the maturity.

 

[MrIndigo]

I say now in days, All girls are the same. No girl has proved me wrong, now most girls complain about "Omg all i end up talking to are Assholes who only want 1 thing", and how they supposedly attract them. But they try to cover it up, when it's really her chasing the Asshole guy. And, what you chase is what you get.

This is pretty common, particularly with younger girls, for a number of reasons. Sometimes it's just because they're attracted to jerk guys because jerks tend to give of alpha-male vibes, but they know society wants them to go for the nice guy, so they say they keep getting disappointed.

Sometimes it's because he's a jerk to everyone except her (in her mind, at least), so it means she's special, right?

Quite often it's because there's only one alternative to the jerks; the boring, foppish teenage boy who is awkward, sometimes annoying, and generally just insipidly boring.

Guys are not exempt from this one-sided choosing; teenage girls tend to fall into two categories too, and boys tend to go for one of them. Girls can either be bossy/aloof/bitchy, or they can be girls who are "broken" or do the whole waifish victim thing. Those are usually just boring, passive-aggressive morons with no personality, who can't get any attention from being awesome so they get it from having mild crises or looking like they're about to cry. Boys project all over them in exactly the same way teenage girls project all over the silent, broody mysterious types when they're really just antisocial and boring jerks.

Long story short: teenagers are fucking dumb.

My first true love played me 4 times. I kept falling to her same story's, i was basically walking blind when it came to her. She kept giving me hopes, i fell for them. When she got she wanted "Getting back with her EX" she putt me aside, and then a shitload of drama started coming around. It's just crazy, i look back. And i learned so much!! in just a few weeks. Of me stressing, not knowing what to do. Not being able to move on, Because you know that's your first true love. And your not gonna give up on it.

This is exactly what I was like with my ex-girlfriend. It's quite a common thing, and now when I look back on Katie, I cannot for the life of me work out why I was interested in her in the first place (I suspect it was because I knew her several-years older sister, who is a very nice person, and because she was the first girl who complimented me). I can't believe I couldn't see all the stuff I know now. She's not even my type! Essentially the opposite! (I like petite and friendly girls with red or dark hair; she was blonde, big, and boisterous).

So when me and my first true love, we're basically done. Her best friend started hitting me up, texting me, Myspace etc. And i was just there, and we had that bond, we talked forever. So 1 day she tells me to pass through her job, and i decided to go and chill with her. Soo we're there in her job, chilling talking having a good time, and when her brake was over. I was gonna walk away and not give her a kiss in the cheek, just to get her mad. And she kinda yells at me, "Aren't you forgetting something" And i answered "Am i?!?"...I was nervous, because i knew that was the right time to make my move. So i slowly approached her, and we're facing each other face to face..but i guess she was nervous also. She couldn't look at me straight in the face. Soo when i asked her "What was i forgetting" She gave me the most random kiss i ever got from any girl. And that's when i asked her out.


3 days after we started dating. It turns out, her best friend "My first true love". Started spreading rumors about her around the School. She was hating hard as hell on her relationship with me. I couldn't, watching her get putt in a hole. When its all because of me all the shit was happening. So 2 days after i just couldn't take the "People talking shit, this and that" And i told her, we needed to end it. We kinda rushed into the relationship. I got love for you, but that isn't gonna cut it.


I felt bad!!. But i really cared for her, she was a Senior. And i didn't want her to be in stress in her most important year. She understood after a few days, she moved on. I moved on.

This is a pretty big thing you did, and I don't think you should regret ending the relationship with all the rumours flying around if it was stressing you out. One can't have a healthy relationship when it feels like noone else takes it seriously.

 

[Navy]

Navy, how old are you even? I noticed you said your "true love"'s best friend was a Senior, but frankly your outlook/opinion on love/girlfriends in general seems pretty immature. There isn't some magical transformation in girls when they're in college, haha. They're either sluttier, or they're actually mature, and if it's the latter case, they probably were before in high school.

I'm 18. And maybe College girls are sluttier, and probably most of them with a shitload of STD's. But im not really going after an "Omg that girl is fresh" I don't sweat for any good looking girl i see. I know what i want, and im patient enough to wait for it.

And how my love/girlfriends in general seems pretty immature?!? I'm single because i choose to be single.

ps: I didn't get with her Best friend just to get back at her. I actually had feelings towards her, but i was young. This happened when i was 16, it was just one of those stages in your life. When you learn something new.

. I see you haven't paid much attention to the posts in this thread already. There are a number of girls in here, and that label does NOT apply to all of us. *rolls eyes*

Lol, I'm sorry. Is just me i guess ;/

I think it's nice that you cared for her enough to end it due to the stress on her, but don't you think that maybe you rushed into ending the relationship? If you really liked her as much as you say, it seems like you could keep it going. It sucks when people talk about you behind your back, but you just gotta tough it out. It dies down after awhile- people lose interest.

I think about it. But it was the right thing for me and her, At that moment. But we still talk as friends. And i got feelings towards her, but i look at her as a friend. We talk over AIM at times. It's been a Year since i last saw her. And we live in the same Area, kinda awkward but yeah.

 

[capsfan19]

Finally, an interesting thread with life lessons to be learned (and mistakes to not make).

I have been in two serious relationships aside from flings. My last one ended early this past October, and we dated for over two years. While being in a relationship during your college years (I am a junior) is seen by many as a foolish choice, I definitely learned a lot about dating and just interacting with the opposite sex in general. After breaking up with my girlfriend, it was easy to say "just move on" but it's easier said than done. While I tried to ignore the "mourning" phase (I hate that word in the context of relationships), to ignore is to deprive yourself of humanity. The two best things to do post-relationship, I have figured out, is to keep busy--being independent shows you're self-sustaining, and that you have the drive to move on (not to mention that women and men love to see potential partners being independent). The second, and most importantly, is to surround yourself with friends. It makes recovery proceed exponentially faster.

Many of you seem really young, but it's refreshing to see the maturity level in these posts.

 

[HD]

Long story short: teenagers are fucking dumb.

I take offense at that (I'm 15). You can't group all teenagers as 'fucking dumb'. You mention it in your own post, that there are two groups of teenagers (you mention girls/boys, but the same grouping could apply for the general population). There's the smart/mature group, and the 'stupid'/immature group. I fucked up with my first 'serious relationship' (more on that later), but who hasn't? You're inexperienced, you don't know what the fuck to do. The only reason I see for your point of view was that you fucked up bad, and can't get over it. One girl broke your heart, so you group the entirer girl/teenage population as stupid dipshits. The thing is, we're not.

My advice for you: grow a pair and get over it. One girl, just one girl, won't make a difference. You're young, so you're inexperienced. But the pros of being young - you could look to the future. You could go over and fix your mistakes.

Now my first 'real' relationship sucked. Bad. I'm 14, a month or two after my bday, I hook up with a girl. I'm young and naive, so when this guy's bro is having a party at his house I go with her. There's alcohal and I drink a bit, but I wasn't drunk by any means. So I lose sight of the girl for a while. I think nothing of it, and continue to party. Closer to the end of the party, at around 10 PM~, I see the girl making out with the guy hosting the party. She turns around as I turn to leave and catches up to me, asking where I've been. She fucking did that. If I never saw her, she could've kept the whole ordeal a secret. Now at this point my mind is trying to think of something cool to say. Instead I say "Why don't you go back to locking-lips withyour buddy?" and leave. She calls me the next day saying how he tempted her etc, I tell her to fuck off. Never went to the guys house again, never talked to the girl again.

Moral of the story: Some girls are just plain sluts.

EDIT: My other relationships went smoothly, and skip the "moral" of my story since I can't be assed to post a paragraph-long thing on how to see a girl that won't bat an eyelash when someone wants to make out with them.

 

[MrIndigo]

I think about it. But it was the right thing for me and her, At that moment. But we still talk as friends. And i got feelings towards her, but i look at her as a friend. We talk over AIM at times. It's been a Year since i last saw her. And we live in the same Area, kinda awkward but yeah.

Hey, if you're still in the same region and your first ex is out of the picture, I'd totally recommend asking her out again. Tell her you're sorry about what happened before.

One of the common mistakes that young people make with romance, as I said earlier, is that they don't ask out people until they're totally over the moon about them. The thing is, dating isn't the same as a relationship. Dating is a sounding board to see if a relationship would work. The only thing you need to make a reasonable request for a date is a mutual friendship and a physical attraction.


Another somewhat related thing I see quite a bit in young teenage males is that for whatever reason (misplaced jealousy of guys who are successful with girls, sometimes religious upbringing, there's a whole multitude of reasons) is that they sort of demonise sex and tend to get stressed and whatnot because of the subconscious confliction of that notion with the fact that they are attracted to girls (or guys, in fact) and want to bone them. They avoid relationships and other such things (whether they're aware they're doing it or not).

There's nothing wrong with wanting to have sex with someone. Sex is a normal part of human interaction. That doesn't mean you have to have your entire relationship based on it, either. Not wanting sex outright (distinct from asexuality, for the record) is no more healthy than having nothing in your life besides sex. The most sensible attitude about sex is to let it happen normally; a good relationship will lead to it in due course anyway. Just be sensible about it (protection etc.) and be open with your partner.

Also note, there's nothing wrong with having a noncommittal physical relationship, if that's what both parties involved want.

In short, things happen naturally. Just go with the flow. You don't have to hunt sex to have a good relationship, and you don't need to ban sex to have a good relationship.

 

[Sarenji]

i was twelve, and thought i loved her. she was walking through the halls the day i saw her. blue eyes, long blonde hair, well-endowed for twelve. i was too nervous to ask her out, so my (former) friend found her locker, put a note in it. i don't remember what it said; something like, "YOUR SECRET ADMIRER: [insert my AIM username]."

weeks passed, and she IMed me. turns out she snuck on her sister's computer for me. i was shaking so hard and could barely concentrate on the computer screen. after that, we talked to each other whenever we could. i kept thinking, "is this love?" so eventually i wrote, complete in the style of a 7th grader, "do u want to be my gf?"

in real life, we never went out, never touched each other, never talked to each other. in part, it was nervousness on both our parts and putting each other on pedestals, but it was also because i am deaf and was too afraid i would not understand her. all we'd do was lock eyes in the hallways, and my friend told me that i blushed whenever i saw her. the week before school ended, she slipped a letter in my locker. it had a scribbled note and a petal of some flower. i think i read the word "love," but it was so long ago i no longer remember. i was seriously bothered by the note: isn't this going too fast? i don't know if i love her.

over the summer, she sent me tons of emails recounting her day. reading through them, i realized, she was boring! coupled with my infatuation (as i later realized it was) not being renewed by the sight of her, i grew tired of her. i still got butterflies when i thought about her, or when i saw her as school started again. but by then, i knew it wasn't love.

she wouldn't believe me when i tried to end it, when i said i no longer liked her. to be fair, i still liked her, but we were too different, and it wasn't love. i felt like we should step back, take things slower. but instead of saying that, i got really angry, then, and called her something i'm not proud of. i hope i get to say "sorry" one day! but yeah, the relationship taught me pretty well the difference between infatuation and love. another girl taught me the rest of the difference.

 

[ivar]

Indigo I dont think that dating should be a soundboard or whatever it was that you said for relationships. A lot of people im sure would agree with you, but the way i look at it you can pretty much tell the moment you meet someone how far the relationship will go--thjere may be surprises but for the most part thats kinda how it works out. So why should I waste my time with some crappy 2 month relationship where we geet bored of one another? I say if you're not feeling a relationship just try to get laid and thats it.

As for your jerks/nice guy dichtomy in my opinion its a bit ridiculous. Jerks aren't any more or less vapid than nice guys... they're just jerks, but they can be charismatic jerks. How interesting someone is really comes down to charm, not the content of anything they say, hence why incredibly knowledgable profs can be dull as hell.

And I think that girls go for ejrks not necessarily because they like jerks, but because they like assertiveness and confidence, which nice guys usually dont have because they're kinda pussies, so it really comes down to which is the lesser evil. Then again just like you im purely theorezing from my intutitions... who knows if im right.

 

[Fishy]

I say if you're not feeling a relationship just try to get laid and thats it.

This really, really bothers me for some reason. So if you know you're not going to get into a serious relationship with them, if you can, just fuck them? Is sex of so little importance to you that you wouldn't mind doing it with someone you don't even really know/like? I assume lots of people are okay with this, but I don't see how.

Personally, I can't even fathom the idea of letting myself be seen partially nude in front of whomever I am dating/could be dating if I knew that I wasn't already on the path to falling in love with them, or I already was in love with them. I dunno, I just feel like giving myself to someone like that so open and vulnerable-like isn't something I take for granted, and it's really hard for me to understand how people can just fuck whoever they want, whenever they want, regardless of the actual level of their social relationship with that person.