Pet Mod [Gen 1] RBY CAP - Revived! [Sendoff Slate]

Name: Roaduo
The Running Bird Pokémon
Height: 1.2 m
Weight: 58.2 kg

Red/Blue Dex Entry:
"While one of its heads runs ahead, the other is busy scouting for danger."

Yellow Dex Entry:
"Its feet have adapted to running. It can run to over 85mph."

Level-up Moves:
Lvl 1 - Peck
Lvl 1 - Growl
Lvl 1 - Quick Attack
Lvl 10 - Agility
Lvl 14 - Sand Attack
Lvl 20 - Fury Attack
Lvl 24 - Stomp
Lvl 26 - Rage
Lvl 30 - Drill Peck
Lvl 44 - Double Team

TM Moves:
TM 4 - Whirlwind
TM 5 - Mega Kick
TM 6 - Toxic
TM 8 - Body Slam
TM 9 - Take Down
TM 10 - Double-Edge
TM 15 - Hyper Beam
TM 20 - Rage
TM 26 - Earthquake
TM 31 - Mimic
TM 32 - Double Team
TM 33 - Reflect
TM 34 - Bide
TM 40 - Skull Bash
TM 43 - Sky Attack
TM 44 - Rest
TM 48 - Rock Slide
TM 49 - Tri Attack
TM 50 - Substitute

Signature Move:
Sky Blitz - Flying, 65 Base Power, 100% chance to hit. 30% chance to raise speed by 1 stage.

How to Obtain:
Evolves from Doduo at level 30.

Gen 2+ Egg Group:
Flying

Tradeback Moves:
Swift
Haze
Supersonic
Low Kick
Headbutt
 
Pengu_The_Penguin said:
Name: Roaduo
The Running Bird Pokémon
Height: 1.2 m
Weight: 58.2 kg

Red/Blue Dex Entry:
"While one of its heads runs ahead, the other is busy scouting for danger."

Yellow Dex Entry:
"Its feet have adapted to running. It can run to over 85mph."

Level-up Moves:
Lvl 1 - Peck
Lvl 1 - Growl
Lvl 1 - Quick Attack
Lvl 10 - Agility
Lvl 14 - Sand Attack
Lvl 20 - Fury Attack
Lvl 24 - Stomp
Lvl 26 - Rage
Lvl 30 - Drill Peck
Lvl 44 - Double Team

TM Moves:
TM 4 - Whirlwind
TM 5 - Mega Kick
TM 6 - Toxic
TM 8 - Body Slam
TM 9 - Take Down
TM 10 - Double-Edge
TM 15 - Hyper Beam
TM 20 - Rage
TM 26 - Earthquake
TM 31 - Mimic
TM 32 - Double Team
TM 33 - Reflect
TM 34 - Bide
TM 40 - Skull Bash
TM 43 - Sky Attack
TM 44 - Rest
TM 48 - Rock Slide
TM 49 - Tri Attack
TM 50 - Substitute

Signature Move:
Sky Blitz - Flying, 65 Base Power, 100% chance to hit. 30% chance to raise speed by 1 stage.

How to Obtain:
Evolves from Doduo at level 30.

Gen 2+ Egg Group:
Flying

Tradeback Moves:
Swift
Haze
Supersonic
Low Kick
Headbutt
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Signature move is vetoed, thats way too competitively relevant of an effect. Raising Speed cancels paralysis + reapplies paralysis or burn stat drops on enemies. Also given that Dodrio is also a level up evolution that should probably be changed just because it doesn’t make sense lol
 
Name: Roaduo
Title: The Dustkicker Pokemon
Height: 1.4m
Weight: 87kg

Red/Blue Dex: Roaduo's back head is vital in sensing danger, the front head will do everything in its power to keep it safe.

Yellow Dex: Its fighting style is underhanded and relentless, kicking up dust to blind its foes.

Level-Up Moves:
Peck LV1
Growl LV1
Fury Attack LV1
(Growl LV20)
(Fury Attack LV24)
Drill Peck LV30
Rage LV39
Thrash LV45
Agility LV51

TM Moves:
Whirlwind
Mega Kick
Toxic
Body Slam
Take Down
Double-Edge
Hyper Beam
Rage
Earthquake
Fissure
Dig
Mimic
Double Team
Reflect
Bide
Skull Bash
Sky Attack
Rest
Rock Slide
Tri Attack
Substitute
Fly

How to Obtain: Trade Doduo
Egg Group: Flying

Tradebacks:
Headbutt (TM)
Swift (TM)
Haze (Egg)
Quick Attack (Egg)
Supersonic (Egg)
Low Kick (Event)
Edit: Added Doduo egg moves to tradebacks.
Edit2: Corrections :)
 
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Name: ROADUO
The ROADRUNNING Pokémon
Height: 1.6 m
Weight: 44.4 kg

Red/Blue Dex Entry:
"Despite its lack of wings, it can somehow run in the sky, just as long as it does not look down."

Yellow Dex Entry:
"When NIDOKING hunts it, it hides in a tunnel in a wall. When it tries to follow, it finds the entry is just a painting."

Level-up Moves:
1 PECK
1 GROWL
1 SAND ATTACK
1 FURY ATTACK
20 SAND ATTACK
24 DIG
30 DRILL PECK
39 DOUBLE TEAM
45 AGILITY
51 WOODPECKER
56 FISSURE

TM Moves:
RAZOR WIND
WHIRLWIND
TOXIC
BODY SLAM
TAKE DOWN
DOUBLE-EDGE
HYPER BEAM
PAY DAY
RAGE
EARTHQUAKE
FISSURE
DIG
TELEPORT
MIMIC
DOUBLE TEAM
BIDE
METRONOME
EGG BOMB
SWIFT
SKULL BASH
SKY ATTACK
ROCK SLIDE
TRI ATTACK
SUBSTITUTE

FLY

Signature Move:
WOODPECKER

Type: Flying
PP: 20
Power: 15
Accuracy: 85%
Hits 2-5 times. The first hit has a 30% chance to flinch (if this is too much then you can reduce it to 10%).

How to Obtain:
Evolves from Doduo after completing any cup in Pokemon Stadium while being in the party, rarely in the Unknown Dungeon.

Gen 2+ Egg Group:
Flying

Tradeback Moves:
HAZE
SUPERSONIC
LOW KICK
HEADBUTT
 
hello all i have had approximately zero seconds to look at these as i’m traveling and rather than accidentally approve submissions that have incompatibilities i will just get back to them after traveling, check back friday-saturday
 
Sorry to be late, I got super sick and could not even keep myself awake more than a couple hours a day, quick sub review!

Pengu_The_Penguin said:
Name: Roaduo
The Running Bird Pokémon
Height: 1.2 m
Weight: 58.2 kg
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jsyk, this is shorter than Doduo, not an incompatibility but perhaps a little off from intent? Doduo is 1.4m tall.
Pengu_The_Penguin said:
Red/Blue Dex Entry:
"While one of its heads runs ahead, the other is busy scouting for danger."

Yellow Dex Entry:
"Its feet have adapted to running. It can run to over 85mph."
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Would suggest "It can run at over 85 mph" (or equivalent kmph) instead
Pengu_The_Penguin said:
Level-up Moves:
Lvl 1 - Peck
Lvl 1 - Growl
Lvl 1 - Quick Attack
Lvl 10 - Agility
Lvl 14 - Sand Attack
Lvl 20 - Fury Attack
Lvl 24 - Stomp
Lvl 26 - Rage
Lvl 30 - Drill Peck
Lvl 44 - Double Team

TM Moves:
TM 4 - Whirlwind
TM 5 - Mega Kick
TM 6 - Toxic
TM 8 - Body Slam
TM 9 - Take Down
TM 10 - Double-Edge
TM 15 - Hyper Beam
TM 20 - Rage
TM 26 - Earthquake
TM 31 - Mimic
TM 32 - Double Team
TM 33 - Reflect
TM 34 - Bide
TM 40 - Skull Bash
TM 43 - Sky Attack
TM 44 - Rest
TM 48 - Rock Slide
TM 49 - Tri Attack
TM 50 - Substitute
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These look good, not getting Tri Attack by levelup is a good removal, however Stomp and Sand Attack are too relevant of moves to just give it as flavor. Flavorwise, Doduo gets Agility as its last move, so maybe move it down the list to level 50 or so?

Pengu_The_Penguin said:
Signature Move:
Sky Blitz - Flying, 65 Base Power, 100% chance to hit. 30% chance to raise speed by 1 stage.
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As mentioned, vetoed, way too relevant.
Pengu_The_Penguin said:
How to Obtain:
Evolves from Doduo at level 30.
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As mentioned, probably change the method since Dodrio already evolves by levelup.
coastergat said:
Level-Up Moves:
Peck LV1
Growl LV1
Fury Attack LV1
Drill Peck LV30
Sand Attack LV36
Headbutt LV40
Agility LV44
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So again, can't add Sand Attack or Headbutt, way too relevant of moves to just throw on as flavor. Probably boost the level on learned moves like Drill Peck/Agility too since those are the same levels Doduo learns them.

coastergat said:
TM Moves:
Whirlwind
Mega Kick
Toxic
Body Slam
Take Down
Double-Edge
Hyper Beam
Counter
Rage
Earthquake
Fissure
Dig
Mimic
Double Team
Reflect
Bide
Skull Bash
Sky Attack
Rest
Rock Slide
Tri Attack
Substitute
Fly
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Same issue here, can't just hand it Counter for fun, too relevant.
Bug Maniac Aydon said:
Level-up Moves:
1 PECK
1 GROWL
1 SAND ATTACK
1 FURY ATTACK
20 SAND ATTACK
24 DIG
30 DRILL PECK
39 DOUBLE TEAM
45 AGILITY
51 WOODPECKER
56 FISSURE
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No Sand Attack, as with the others; probably increase level on Drill Peck and Agility.

Bug Maniac Aydon said:
TM Moves:
RAZOR WIND
WHIRLWIND
TOXIC
BODY SLAM
TAKE DOWN
DOUBLE-EDGE
HYPER BEAM
PAY DAY
RAGE
EARTHQUAKE
FISSURE
DIG
TELEPORT
MIMIC
DOUBLE TEAM
BIDE
METRONOME
EGG BOMB
SWIFT
SKULL BASH
SKY ATTACK
ROCK SLIDE
TRI ATTACK
SUBSTITUTE

FLY
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No clue why this gets Egg Bomb, Teleport, or Pay Day as TMs, but it probably shouldn't even if they're not useful moves?

Bug Maniac Aydon said:
Signature Move:
WOODPECKER

Type: Flying
PP: 20
Power: 15
Accuracy: 85%
Hits 2-5 times. The first hit has a 30% chance to flinch (if this is too much then you can reduce it to 10%).
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Gonna go with 10% flinch to keep this from being relevant, just in case.

Bug Maniac Aydon said:
How to Obtain:
Evolves from Doduo after completing any cup in Pokemon Stadium while being in the party, rarely in the Unknown Dungeon.

Gen 2+ Egg Group:
Flying

Tradeback Moves:
HAZE
SUPERSONIC
LOW KICK
HEADBUTT
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Doduo gets Haze, Low Kick, Quick Attack, Supersonic, Swift as tradeback moves so this should probably have all of those as well

I'll give a bit of time for corrections then move ahead to voting!
 
Vote! 48 hours, anything mentioned above as actually affecting competitive viability is vetoed/taken off the submission if still on it:
Pengu_The_Penguin
coastergat
Bug Maniac Aydon
 
Well the lack of votes here is a bit rough so I guess I am the tiebreaker... the winner is coastergat, and Roaduo is complete!

That concludes Slate 3, and now we have a bit of a question on our hands - do we keep making more CAPs? Is there more to do here besides polish up the current ones and run some games and develop the tier? I actually am pretty happy with 3 slates and close things up, but I want to see where people's interest is at and their thoughts on where to go from here.
 
I fully fell out of love with RBY CAP with Roaduo and how it was handled, tbh.

The whole thing felt like a scam; it's not an actual RBY CAP project, instead being a random pet mod that used the name of RBY CAP to clickbait and gather interest when it really had no business carrying the name. It doesn't follow the filosophies of CAP, doesn't follow the CAP method it just, isn't CAP. My interest for it is fully gone as a result; I really don't care about it anymore.

It's just not what I signed up for.
Roaduo is the complete opposite direction of what CAP is; it now feels like any run of the mill fakemon pet mod rather than, well, CAP.
CAP is about the competitive side of things, exploring the niches and opportunities of the metagame. Flavor is placed on the end of the chain for a reason, and that is so it has 0 influence on the competitive aspects. Roaduo was a massive break of this, prioritizing flavor over competitiveness. That's just, not what CAP does - it only did it once, in its entire history, and was for the 25th CAP comemoration - and the only actual mechanical enforcement was being a Fire, Water and Grass line. Explicitly a celebration thing, and a much smaller impact on the competitive side than deciding typing and large parts of the movepool too.


I feel like I'd be on the train of starting placing a bow on things and calling it done. The project's title is unfit at best and misleading at worst, the original vibe just isn't there anymore and people just aren't interested anymore.

It's just, it's not CAP anymore. It's not.

EDIT: Had some talks with the folks in the discord.
I definitey got way overdramatic here; my overall point is that I got upset that the process didn't follow the CAP project with as much fidelity as it followed the conventions of RBY, and that lead to my loss of interest. It's definitely not a scam or clickbait, only that it made me dissapointed with the project as a whole.
 
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The Faz said:
I fully fell out of love with RBY CAP with Roaduo and how it was handled, tbh.

The whole thing felt like a scam; it's not an actual RBY CAP project, instead being a random pet mod that used the name of RBY CAP to clickbait and gather interest when it really had no business carrying the name. It doesn't follow the filosophies of CAP, doesn't follow the CAP method it just, isn't CAP. My interest for it is fully gone as a result; I really don't care about it anymore.

It's just not what I signed up for.
Roaduo is the complete opposite direction of what CAP is; it now feels like any run of the mill fakemon pet mod rather than, well, CAP.
CAP is about the competitive side of things, exploring the niches and opportunities of the metagame. Flavor is placed on the end of the chain for a reason, and that is so it has 0 influence on the competitive aspects. Roaduo was a massive break of this, prioritizing flavor over competitiveness. That's just, not what CAP does - it only did it once, in its entire history, and was for the 25th CAP comemoration - and the only actual mechanical enforcement was being a Fire, Water and Grass line. Explicitly a celebration thing, and a much smaller impact on the competitive side than deciding typing and large parts of the movepool too.


I feel like I'd be on the train of starting placing a bow on things and calling it done. The project's title is unfit at best and misleading at worst, the original vibe just isn't there anymore and people just aren't interested anymore.

It's just, it's not CAP anymore. It's not.
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Calling the entire mod a scam and clickbait because you're upset about the "must match one typing of the original mon it is evolving from" rule is ridiculously dramatic, overblown, and rude to all the people who have put time into the project. Flavor at no point overtook competitive viability in the design of the Pokemon. If you don't like how it was handled by all means, move on, but you've ranted about this multiple times on Discord and now here. You can have your own opinion and decide you don't want to be involved anymore, but let's keep some perspective here: this is a niche pet mod for a niche generation and a niche concept that is high-effort compared to submissions in similar pet mods with a burden of needing art, and the opening tournament got 16 signups. No money was involved in the project aside from the small prize I put up on the tour, nobody was "scammed" or "clickbaited" into anything, so perhaps we could be less dramatic about not liking the typing of a CAP?
 
I personally think right now we should try and develop the tier with some discord tournaments and maybe another forum tournament??? I think we should have resources made as weve reached a reasonable conclusion. If after a while we want more mons? Lets do it! I personally would prefer if we continued would also prefer more unique caps (i dont like prevo or evo mons) but thats just my preference. but in the end we wanted a playable metagame right? If our niche tier for a niche audience ends up changing every month those 1 or 2 games that happen in that span wont help us get a playable metagame.
 
I don't see much point of continuing this petmod if there's no one playing it, I like it, but I also tried to find a game a few slates ago to just find out that no one had built almost any teams since the tour. Ideally, I think there should be tournaments or at least some amount of games first before developing this more.
 
Alright gamers, after a long hiatus of "Sabelette needs to do a bunch of life stuff and doesn't have time to look at this" I think we will do exactly what gastlies suggested, make something balanced for Ubers rather than OU, then we will be done with slates, I'll bugfix and update the resources, and we can have a little sendoff tournament (perhaps even with an Ubers game as part of it...) and see what happens from there. So that said... let's do it. It's been a while so I understand if the interest has dropped but lets give it a shot.

Sendoff Slate: Concept​
The first component of the slate is the concept! This is the overall role that you want the CAP to fill. The broader the concept is, the more freedom we will have to play around with stats/typing/moves later on. I'll give one week to submit - as this slate is for an Uber level CAP, most things are good to go here conceptually. Just keep in mind your concept cannot mandate a specific typing.
 
Broken Typing
Simple concept, a Pokemon with a type combination that would destroy OU, whether because of incredible STABs, broken resistances or immunities, or some combination of the two; this could even involve a signature move for a type that would be strong offensively if only it had a good move, but there are tons of viable combinations even without signature moves.
 
"Welcome to Hell!" - Partial Trapping Move Abuse
The idea should be rather simple by just hearing the name, but the idea behind it is creating a Pokémon that is designed around nearly exclusively using partial trapping moves as a way to in no uncertain terms piss off the opponent. In theory this concept could be applied to more than just partial trapping moves and making it more of a "lets abuse the game's mechanics to make a Pokémon that is downright unfun to fight."
 
Achilles Heel
The idea is for an extreme Pokemon that on paper would be way above the rest of the tier's power level, but is dragged back by one or more severe holes in its movepool, statline, and/or typing. The most obvious example is a Pokemon with big stats that's undercut by a really bad typing but you could also do something like, I dunno, a Pokemon with an especially good defensive profile but not even Rest for healing for example.
 
Vote time! 48 hours to vote, no voting your own submission in first place, rank up to 3

Physical Status
Speed Ceiling
Broken Typing
Partial Trapping Move Abuse
Achilles Heel
 
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