What really bothers me is that Appletun (The special attacking counterpart of Flapple) gets Earthquake and Superpower. C'mon Gamefreak, it's obvious which evo needed those. Hustle Earthquake and Superpower would have helped with Flapple's problems with Steel types
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Pokémon Flapple
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Okay but how do you expect that dinky apple to shake the earth with the power of a hollowed out apple core?
If it learns Heavy Slam, i'm pretty sure it can "shake the ground" 
Newton (Flapple) (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Grav Apple
- Outrage
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
Substitute is there to make matters easier against status, giving better opportunities to SetUp Dragon Dance and to save you in case Hustle makes you miss. Also this mon's coverage is awful anyways, so it's not like you miss on anything.
However, some moves deserve consideration:
On a separate but related note: is Dynamax, as of now, banned from UU?
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Grav Apple
- Outrage
- Substitute
- Dragon Dance
Substitute is there to make matters easier against status, giving better opportunities to SetUp Dragon Dance and to save you in case Hustle makes you miss. Also this mon's coverage is awful anyways, so it's not like you miss on anything.
However, some moves deserve consideration:
- Sucker Punch: provides a form of Priority against faster threat
- Fly: Only to Dynamax and use it to beat bulky Grass types and to get a +1 in Speed if needed
- Heavy Slam: while incredibly weak because... You know, you weight 1 kg only, it becomes a 130 BP move during Dynamax, so you can blow away some bulky Fairies (Like G-Weezing)
On a separate but related note: is Dynamax, as of now, banned from UU?
Matleo said :
Gravity seems to increase the damage.
Makes sense as gravity is increased so acceleration and speed at impact is also increased. And the dragon was probably given Hustle now as gravity cancels the accuracy drop. Nice detail, game freak.
Gravity seems to increase the damage.
Makes sense as gravity is increased so acceleration and speed at impact is also increased. And the dragon was probably given Hustle now as gravity cancels the accuracy drop. Nice detail, game freak.
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It was recently confirmed in this post that Gravity boosts the power of Grav Apple by 50%. Makes sense to me.
Gravity also (like it always has), makes all moves 5/3 as accurate as they would normally be - equivalent to lowering Evasiveness by 2 stages. This is very helpful for Flapple not only for boosting the power of Grav Apple, but also making it (and Outrage/Sucker Punch) 100% accurate because the accuracy boost from Gravity is greater than the accuracy drop from Hustle. Amazingly, Dragon Rush is also 100% accurate under Gravity, even taking into account its naturally poor accuracy and Hustle.
Here are the fully-evolved Pokemon which can learn Gravity in SS (there are some Pokemon like Mew who used to be able to learn it in previous gens, but the method by which they got it no longer exists):
Gravity also (like it always has), makes all moves 5/3 as accurate as they would normally be - equivalent to lowering Evasiveness by 2 stages. This is very helpful for Flapple not only for boosting the power of Grav Apple, but also making it (and Outrage/Sucker Punch) 100% accurate because the accuracy boost from Gravity is greater than the accuracy drop from Hustle. Amazingly, Dragon Rush is also 100% accurate under Gravity, even taking into account its naturally poor accuracy and Hustle.
Here are the fully-evolved Pokemon which can learn Gravity in SS (there are some Pokemon like Mew who used to be able to learn it in previous gens, but the method by which they got it no longer exists):
Good for Doubles, but I don't think it's worth using in singles, too complicated to keep setting up Gravity and switching in Flapple
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