National Dex Ubers Eruption Primal Groudon [DONE]

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[SET]
name: Eruption
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
move 4: Swords Dance / Stealth Rock
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Hasty
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Primal Groudon is a potent mixed attacker thanks to its amazing stat spread, its Ground / Fire typing, and its expansive movepool. It switches into many staples, like Ferrothorn, Necrozma-DM, and Eternatus, and this breaks holes in many teams early-game if healthy enough.
  • Eruption allows Primal Groudon to deal strong damage to foes that don't take as much damage from Precipice Blades, such as support Arceus formes like Arceus-Ground and Arceus-Dark, as well as Ferrothorn, and Xerneas. Eruption can also 2HKO foes that resist Fire, like non-defensive Eternatus and Zygarde before Power Construct.
  • Precipice Blades is Primal Groudon's secondary STAB move, hitting Zacian-C, Primal Kyogre, and Necrozma-DM more reliably than Eruption when Primal Groudon is chipped.
  • Rock Tomb can be used to deal super effective damage to common switch-ins, such as Ho-Oh and Mega Salamence, while also giving Primal Groudon a form of speed control against foes like Eternatus and Yveltal. Alternatively, Stone Edge can be used to deal heavier damage against Giratina-O and OHKO Ho-Oh after minimal chip damage.
  • Swords Dance is recommended to reliably OHKO Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Eternatus with Precipice Blades after a boost, while also 2HKOing the majority of its checks, like Arceus-Ground and Zygarde-C.
  • Stealth Rock is an alternative that can be used to soften up opposing staples like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ground, and opposing Primal Groudon while also heavily damaging Mega Salamence and Yveltal. It also allows Primal Groudon to reliably OHKO Marshadow and Rayquaza after Stealth Rock damage.
  • Eruption Primal Groudon fits best on bulky offense teams that appreciate a mixed wallbreaker that can blow holes in the opposing team early-game.
  • Although Primal Groudon is a threatening early-game wallbreaker, it still cannot deal with the likes of Arceus-Ground, Zygarde-C, and Palkia-O, so it appreciates teammates that can deal with them, like Primal Kyogre, Palkia-O, and Arceus-Fairy.
  • Primal Groudon appreciates entry hazard support from Eternatus and support Arceus formes like Arceus-Dark and Arceus-Ground, as they can chip most of Primal Groudon's aforementioned checks. In return, Primal Groudon can deal with Zacian-C and Primal Kyogre for them respectively.
  • It's important to keep Primal Groudon from needlessly being chipped, so having a teammate with entry hazard control such as Ho-Oh or Yveltal, is beneficial.
[SET CREDITS]
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[SET]
name: Eruption
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
move 4: Swords Dance / Stealth Rock
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Hasty
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Primal Groudon is a potent mixed attacker thanks to its amazing stat spread, typing, and expansive movepool. Expand more on the role of this set, at what does it shine early-game, general positive match-ups and so on
  • Eruption allows Primal Groudon to deal decent strong damage to foes that don't take as much damage from Precipice Blades, such as support Arceus formes like Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Dark, as well as Ferrothorn, and Xerneas. Mention some of the 2HKOs reached on resists by this move
  • Precipice Blades is Primal Groudon's secondary STAB move option, hitting Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM more reliably than Eruption when Primal Groudon is chipped.
  • Rock Tomb can be used for Pokemon that would try to switch into Primal Groudon's attacks, like Ho-Oh and Mega Salamence for super-effetcive super effective damage, while also giving Primal Groudon a form of speed control against foes like Eternatus and what else?, although Stone Edge can be used to reliably OHKO the former two and deal heavier damage towards Giratina-O, and OHKO Ho-Oh after minimal chip damage. Stone Edge 2HKOs Mence without Intimidate, and it's a OHKO roll on Ho-Oh
  • Swords Dance is recommended to reliably OHKO Necrozma-DM and Eternatus with Precipice Blades after a boost, while also 2HKOing the majority of the metagame. Mention some more specific 2HKOs or OHKOs reached by SD
  • Stealth Rock is an alternative that can be used to soften up opposing staples like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ground, and opposing Primal Groudon, while also heavily damaging Mega Salamence and Yveltal. Mention OHKOs reached after SR damage
Add a bullet point or two over general usage tips for this set of PDon, such as on when it shouldn't be used early-game, preserving its health to abuse Eruption, and so on
  • Eruption Primal Groudon fits best on bulky offense teams that appreciate a mixed breaker that can blow holes in the opposing team early on early-game.
  • Primal Groudon hates Arceus-Ground and Zygarde-C, and cannot OHKO them even at +2, so it appreciates Pokemon that can deal with them, like Primal Kyogre, Palkia-O, and Marshadow. What does PDon do to support them in return?
  • Primal Groudon also appreciates entry hazard support from Deoxys-S and Ferrothorn rather niche examples, especially given the former is for hyper offense, not bulky offense, if it'd also fit hyper offense then please also modify the bit above to just include offensive team structures in general, in any case, please bring up more meta relevant mons instead, as they can chip most of Primal Groudon's aforementioned checks. What does PDon checks in return for them that they may struggle with themselves?
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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[SET]
name: Eruption
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
move 4: Swords Dance / Stealth Rock
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Hasty
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Primal Groudon is a potent mixed attacker thanks to its amazing stat spread, typing, and expansive movepool. It can switch into many staples, like Ferrothorn, Necrozma-DM, and Eternatus, and this set in particular can break holes in many teams early-game. it's a pdon it can break stuff all game tbf, like yea there's this hp eruption thing but u can just keep it healthy; I'd personally make it "many teams if its healthy enough, typically early- and mid-game" or something
  • Eruption allows Primal Groudon to deal strong damage to foes that don't take as much damage from Precipice Blades, such as support Arceus formes like Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Dark, as well as Ferrothorn, and Xerneas. Eruption can also 2HKO Fire-type resists, like non-Defensive Eternatus and Zygarde before Power Construct.
  • Precipice Blades is Primal Groudon's secondary STAB move option, hitting Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM more reliably than Eruption when Primal Groudon is chipped. Kyogre
  • Rock Tomb can be used for Pokemon that would try to switch into Primal Groudon's attacks, like Ho-Oh and Mega Salamence for super effective damage, while also giving Primal Groudon a form of speed control against foes like Eternatus and Flutter Mane Yveltal (if it switches in specifically), although Stone Edge can be used to deal heavier damage towards Giratina-O, and OHKO after Ho-Oh after minimal chip damage.
  • Swords Dance is recommended to reliably OHKO Necrozma-DM and Eternatus with Precipice Blades after a boost, while also 2HKOing the majority of its checks, like Arceus-Ground, Zygarde-C, and Primal Kyogre. Better mention is ohkoing offensive pogre at +2
  • Stealth Rock is an alternative that can be used to soften up opposing staples like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ground, and opposing Primal Groudon, while also heavily damaging Mega Salamence and Yveltal. It also allows Primal Groudon to reliably OHKO Marshadow and Rayquaza after Stealth Rock damage.
  • Eruption Primal Groudon fits best on bulky offense teams that appreciate a mixed breaker that can blow holes in the opposing team early on.
  • Although Primal Groudon is a threatening early breaker, it still cannot deal with the likes of Arceus-Ground, Zygarde-C, and Palkia-O, so it appreciates Pokemon that can deal with them, like Primal Kyogre, Palkia-O, and Arceus-Fairy since they can beat Primal Groudon 1v1.
  • Primal Groudon hates Arceus-Ground and Zygarde-C, and cannot OHKO them even at +2, so it appreciates Pokemon that can deal with them, like Primal Kyogre, Palkia-O, and Marshadow.
  • Primal Groudon also appreciates entry hazard support from Eternatus and support Arceus formes like Arceus-Dark and Arceus-Ground, as they can chip most of Primal Groudon's aforementioned checks. In return, Primal Groudon can deal with Flutter Mane Zacian-C and Primal Kyogre for them respectively.
add tips points of how u need to keep pdon healthy for eruption and how it appreciates faster threats being removed

[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
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QC 2/2 gj
 
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:sv/groudon-primal::red-orb:
[SET]
name: Eruption
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
move 4: Swords Dance / Stealth Rock
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Hasty
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Primal Groudon is a potent mixed attacker thanks to its amazing stat spread, its Ground / Fire typing, and its expansive movepool. It can switch into switches in to many staples, like Ferrothorn, Necrozma-DM, and Eternatus, and this set in particular can break breaks holes in many teams early-game if healthy enough.
  • Eruption allows Primal Groudon to deal strong damage to foes that don't take as much damage from Precipice Blades, such as support Arceus formes like Arceus-Ground (rc) and Arceus-Dark, as well as Ferrothorn (rc) and Xerneas. Eruption can also 2HKO Fire-type resists, like non-Defensive Eternatus and Zygarde before Power Construct.
  • Precipice Blades is Primal Groudon's secondary STAB move option, hitting Zacian-C, Primal Kyogre, and Necrozma-DM more reliably than Eruption when Primal Groudon is chipped.
  • Rock Tomb can be used for Pokemon that would try to switch into Primal Groudon's attacks, like to deal super effective damage to common switch-ins, such as Ho-Oh and Mega Salamence for super effective damage, while also giving Primal Groudon a form of speed control against foes like Eternatus and Yveltal. (rc, ap) although Alternatively, Stone Edge can be used to deal heavier damage towards Giratina-O (rc) and OHKO after Ho-Oh after minimal chip damage.
  • Swords Dance is recommended to reliably OHKO Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Eternatus with Precipice Blades after a boost, while also 2HKOing the majority of its checks, like Arceus-Ground and Zygarde-C.
  • Stealth Rock is an alternative that can be used to soften up opposing staples like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ground, and opposing Primal Groudon, while also heavily damaging Mega Salamence and Yveltal. It also allows Primal Groudon to reliably OHKO Marshadow and Rayquaza after Stealth Rock damage.
  • Eruption Primal Groudon fits best on bulky offense teams that appreciate a mixed breaker that can blow holes in the opposing team early on.
  • Although Primal Groudon is a threatening early breaker, it still cannot deal with the likes of Arceus-Ground, Zygarde-C, and Palkia-O, so it appreciates Pokemon teammates that can deal with them, like Primal Kyogre, Palkia-O, and Arceus-Fairy.
  • Primal Groudon also appreciates entry hazard support from Eternatus and support Arceus formes like Arceus-Dark and Arceus-Ground, as they can chip most of Primal Groudon's aforementioned checks. In return, Primal Groudon can deal with Zacian-C and Primal Kyogre for them respectively.
  • With Eruption, Primal Groudon hates unnecesarily being chipped is weakened by entry hazard chip damage, so hazard control such as Ho-Oh and Yveltal are is beneficial.
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lord-fernado.629794/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
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Grammar checked by:
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1/1 GP Team done
same colors as amcheck-darker blue/lighter red/darker purple for me though
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:sv/groudon-primal::red-orb:
[SET]
name: Eruption
move 1: Eruption
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
move 4: Swords Dance / Stealth Rock
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Hasty
evs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
  • Primal Groudon is a potent mixed attacker thanks to its amazing stat spread, its Ground / Fire typing, and its expansive movepool. It can switch into switches into many staples, like Ferrothorn, Necrozma-DM, and Eternatus, and this set in particular can break breaks holes in many teams early-game if healthy enough.
  • Eruption allows Primal Groudon to deal strong damage to foes that don't take as much damage from Precipice Blades, such as support Arceus formes like Arceus-Ground (rc) and Arceus-Dark, as well as Ferrothorn (rc) and Xerneas. Eruption can also 2HKO Fire-type resists foes that resist Fire, like non-defensive Eternatus and Zygarde before Power Construct.
  • Precipice Blades is Primal Groudon's secondary STAB move option, hitting Zacian-C, Primal Kyogre, and Necrozma-DM more reliably than Eruption when Primal Groudon is chipped.
  • Rock Tomb can be used for Pokemon that would try to switch into Primal Groudon's attacks, like to deal super effective damage to common switch-ins, such as Ho-Oh and Mega Salamence for super effective damage, while also giving Primal Groudon a form of speed control against foes like Eternatus and Yveltal. (rc, ap) although Alternatively, Stone Edge can be used to deal heavier damage towards against Giratina-O (rc) and OHKO after Ho-Oh after minimal chip damage.
  • Swords Dance is recommended to reliably OHKO Necrozma-DM, Primal Kyogre, and Eternatus with Precipice Blades after a boost (rc) while also 2HKOing the majority of its checks, like Arceus-Ground and Zygarde-C.
  • Stealth Rock is an alternative that can be used to soften up opposing staples like Arceus-Fairy, Arceus-Ground, and opposing Primal Groudon (rc) while also heavily damaging Mega Salamence and Yveltal. It also allows Primal Groudon to reliably OHKO Marshadow and Rayquaza after Stealth Rock damage.
  • Eruption Primal Groudon fits best on bulky offense teams that appreciate a mixed wallbreaker that can blow holes in the opposing team early on early-game.
  • Although Primal Groudon is a threatening early-game wallbreaker, it still cannot deal with the likes of Arceus-Ground, Zygarde-C, and Palkia-O, so it appreciates Pokemon teammates that can deal with them, like Primal Kyogre, Palkia-O, and Arceus-Fairy.
  • Primal Groudon also appreciates entry hazard support from Eternatus and support Arceus formes like Arceus-Dark and Arceus-Ground, as they can chip most of Primal Groudon's aforementioned checks. In return, Primal Groudon can deal with Zacian-C and Primal Kyogre for them, (ac) respectively.
  • It's important to keep Primal Groudon hates unnecesarily from being needlessly chipped, so having a teammate with hazard control, (ac) such as Ho-Oh and or Yveltal, (ac) are is beneficial.
[SET CREDITS]
Written by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/lord-fernado.629794/
Quality checked by:
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/bobsican.434487/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/members/zastra.558636/
Grammar checked by:
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