DPP Uxie (Dual Screen)

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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/uxie

I'm surprised this wasn't up already. This is really one of the main reasons that people use Uxie.

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[SET]
name: Dual Screen
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Memento
move 4: Stealth Rock / U-turn
item: Light Clay
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Uxie can use its great defensive stats and relatively high Speed to be a very efficient user of the dual screen strategy. This set works well both as a lead or as a transition Pokemon, and with its impressive defenses, Uxie can take quite a beating from both sides of the attacking spectrum. Behind dual screens, Uxie is notoriously difficult to take down - a Choice Band Tyranitar's Crunch can only manage a maximum of 47% to it, and if you switch, its Pursuit will do the same. This means that Uxie can stay in on Tyranitar and proceed to set up both screens as well as Stealth Rock, if need be.</p>

<p>Memento is really what sets Uxie apart from other Dual Screeners, as it drops the foe's Attack and Special Attack by a further 2 stages, while causing Uxie to faint. This is particularly useful for setting up a sweep with a frail Pokemon such as Belly Drum Charizard, or for Baton Pass teams in need of a little extra insurance. It also means that the incoming pokemon gets in without taking a hit, and is once again very helpful in setting up frail Pokemon.</p>

<p>In the final moveslot, Uxie has a variety of support moves it can use, depending on your team's needs. Stealth Rock is beneficial for pretty much any team, and Uxie's bulk allows it to set it up reliably. Rain Dance or Sunny Day can easily go in that slot for weather teams looking for a reliable replenisher, as can Trick Room. Yawn is a useful utility move for forcing a switch. U-turn is also available for use in the last slot, granting Uxie another way to leave the field without having to sacrifice itself, and also means that Uxie isn't stopped dead by Taunt.</p>

<p>The 76 Speed EVs allow Uxie to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar and Adamant Scizor, both of whom are far less threatening once Uxie is safely behind a Reflect. However, a Jolly nature and maximum Speed can be run, allowing Uxie to set up a screen before many threats expected to be faster than it, in particular Lucario and neutral Speed natured Salamence. Light Clay is the item of choice as it extends the duration of Light Screen and Reflect by a further three turns, allowing the team to make the most effective use of the screens Uxie sets up.</p>
 
You might want to mention Impish as an option if someone wants to opt out for U-turn. Other than that, it looks good.

I'm going to try this in the new UU, that's for sure (changed slightly, of course.)
 
Memento is really what sets Uxie apart from other Dual Screeners, as it drops the foe's Attack and Special Attack by a further 2 stages, while causing Uxie to faint. This is particularly useful for setting up a sweep with a frail pokemon such as Belly Drum Charizard, or for Baton Pass teams in need of a little extra insurance. Psychic and U-turn are also available for use in the last slot for more conservative players, and also mean that Uxie isn't stopped dead by Taunt.
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I'd like to see this bit in its own paragraph (in <p> tags), but that might just be me.

<p>The 76 Speed EVs allow Uxie to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar and Adamant Scizor, both of whom are far less threatening once Uxie is safely behind a Reflect. The choice of nature depends on which attacking move, if any, you choose to use. Light Clay is the item of choice as it extends the duration of Light Screen and Reflect by a further 3 turns, allowing the team to make the most effective use of the screens Uxie sets up.</p>
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I think 'which' sounds better than 'what', but that doesn't really matter much either.

Very good write up.
 
This is a good set. I haven't used it in new UU though, but I know it works in OU.

Legacy Raider said:
http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/uxie

I'm surprised this wasn't up already. This is really one of the main reasons that people use Uxie.

[SET]
name: Dual Screen
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Memento / Psychic / U-turn
item: Light Clay
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Uxie can use its great defensive stats and relatively high Speed to be a very efficient user of the dual screen strategy. This set works well both as a lead or as a transition Pokemon, and with its impressive defenses, Uxie can take quite a beating from both sides of the attacking spectrum. Behind both screens, Uxie is notoriously difficult to take down - a Choice Band Tyranitar's Crunch can only manage a maximum of 47% to it, and if you switch, its Pursuit will do the same. This means that Uxie can stay in on Tyranitar and proceed to set up both screens as well as Stealth Rock if need be.</p>

<p>In the third moveslot, Uxie has a variety of support moves it can use, depending on your team's needs. Stealth Rock is beneficial for pretty much any team and Uxie's bulk allows it to set it up reliably. Rain Dance or Sunny Day can easily go in that slot for weather teams looking for a reliable replenisher. Yawn is a useful utility move for forcing a switch, and works very well if you opt for U-turn in the last slot.</p>

<p>Memento is really what sets Uxie apart from other Dual Screeners, as it drops the foe's Attack and Special Attack by a further 2 stages, while causing Uxie to faint. This is particularly useful for setting up a sweep with a frail pokemon such as Belly Drum Charizard, or for Baton Pass teams in need of a little extra insurance. Psychic and U-turn are also available for use in the last slot for more conservative players, and also mean that Uxie isn't stopped dead by Taunt.</p>

<p>The 76 Speed EVs allow Uxie to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar and Adamant Scizor, both of whom are far less threatening once Uxie is safely behind a Reflect. The choice of nature depends on what attacking move, if any, you choose to use. Light Clay is the item of choice as it extends the duration of Light Screen and Reflect by a further 3 turns, allowing the team to make the most effective use of the screens Uxie sets up.</p>
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I could only find one thing to change. Doesn't sound correct when using Dual in that context.

Another EV spread that could be mentioned is 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe. You outspeed adamant Lucario, allowing you to set up a Reflect which potentially could end a very threatening sweeper. Also you beat Heracross who would OHKO with CB Megahorn.
 
<p>The 76 Speed EVs allow Uxie to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar and Adamant Scizor, both of whom are far less threatening once Uxie is safely behind a Reflect. The choice of nature depends on what attacking move, if any, you choose to use. Light Clay is the item of choice as it extends the duration of Light Screen and Reflect by a further three turns, allowing the team to make the most effective use of the screens Uxie sets up.</p>
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Actually, I'd change '3' to 'three', just to be consistent with the other analyses.
 
Legacy Raider said:
[SET]
name: Dual Screen
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Stealth Rock
move 4: Memento / Psychic / U-turn
item: Light Clay
nature: Bold / Impish
evs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Uxie can use its great defensive stats and relatively high Speed to be a very efficient user of the dual screen strategy. This set works well both as a lead or as a transition Pokemon, and with its impressive defenses, Uxie can take quite a beating from both sides of the attacking spectrum. Behind dual screens, Uxie is notoriously difficult to take down - a Choice Band Tyranitar's Crunch can only manage a maximum of 47% to it, and if you switch, its Pursuit will do the same. This means that Uxie can stay in on Tyranitar and proceed to set up both screens as well as Stealth Rock, (comma) if need be.</p>

<p>In the third moveslot, Uxie has a variety of support moves it can use, depending on your team's needs. Stealth Rock is beneficial for pretty much any team, (comma) and Uxie's bulk allows it to set it up reliably. Rain Dance or Sunny Day can easily go in that slot for weather teams looking for a reliable replenisher. Yawn is a useful utility move for forcing a switch, and works very well if you opt for U-turn in the last slot.</p>

<p>Memento is really what sets Uxie apart from other Dual Screeners, as it drops the foe's Attack and Special Attack by a further 2 stages, while causing Uxie to faint. This is particularly useful for setting up a sweep with a frail Pokemon such as Belly Drum Charizard, or for Baton Pass teams in need of a little extra insurance. Psychic and U-turn are also available for use in the last slot for more conservative players, and also mean that Uxie isn't stopped dead by Taunt.</p>

<p>The 76 Speed EVs allow Uxie to outspeed Jolly Tyranitar and Adamant Scizor, both of whom are far less threatening once Uxie is safely behind a Reflect. The choice of nature depends on which attacking move, if any, you choose to use. Light Clay is the item of choice as it extends the duration of Light Screen and Reflect by a further three turns, allowing the team to make the most effective use of the screens Uxie sets up.</p>
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Added 2 commas to make it flow and capitalised "Pokemon".
 
Make Stealth Rock optional as you don't need to run this as a lead and could put SR anywhere. Anyway, this is a good set.

Reflect
Light Screen
Memento / U-Turn
Stealth Rock / Psychic / U-Turn
 
This is an excellent set.

The ordering should probably be:

Reflect
Light Screen
Memento
U-turn / Stealth Rock / Yawn (set comments)

Take out the mention of leading, since this probably shouldn't lead. Also, I think the EV spread is rather inefficient. I would go with:

Jolly, 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Uxie has base 95 Speed, meaning he outruns quite a bit of shit. Speed is more important IMO on a Dual Screener like this since you can get that extra Screen in. Also, U-turn is preferable because you don't always need to sack Uxie. Ideally, it should go like this:

Uxie switches in on Earthquake / etc for minimal or no damage. Gets screen 1 up on the switch, outspeeds the second pokemon for screen 2, then U-turns to a resist. You don't need to Momento with a ton of health, and with high speed you can get more use out of the screen, especially if you have a Wish-passer. The 4 SpD is just good for Download P-Z since Uxie is one of those pokemon with identical defenses and those EVs can go anywhere.

Yawn and Stealth Rock can be used as well, as yawn can prompt a double switch and Stealth Rock if you need it I guess. But Screens and U-turn is probably all you need. Psychic really won't do anything and is a waste of time.
 
I disagree. Being slower is better, Uxie is the Pokemon here that is more capable of taking a hit (and also doesn't mind taking it as much), and switching in on a resists not a completely infallable tactic. Why would you risk that on your sweeper, or set up mon, when you can let Uxie take what to it will be a really weak hit considering Uxies considerable defenses. Uxie is bulky enough to not have to worry about being OHKOed whilst setting up Screens. Therefore, the bulkier and slower set is definately preferable.
 
RaikouLover, Uxie really prefers the bulk to the extraneous speed. It really only needs 76 Speed EVs to let it outspeed Jolly Tyranitar; anything after that is superfluous and detracts from Uxie's defensive capabilities. Like I mentioned in the set, the current spread enjoys enough defense to not be 2HKOed by Tyranitar while behind a Reflect. Seeing as how Tyranitar is possibly Uxie's number 1 switch in, I think being able to take hits from it is more important in this case. I'd rather have a bulky Uxie that can survive a fair few hits and is fast enough to outspeed its biggest threats, than a faster Uxie that relies on Wish support. Also, Uxie can be effective as a lead, and so I'm going to leave that bit in.

I've changed around the set a bit, making Memento a primary option in the third slot, and have changed the comments around to reflect that. Yawn has been mentioned in the set comments. I've also removed Psychic from the set, as really, Uxie isn't going to be hitting anything hard with it anyway, and U-turn, Stealth Rock, or Yawn are almost always more useful in that last slot.
 
Originally Posted by Imran
I disagree. Being slower is better, Uxie is the Pokemon here that is more capable of taking a hit (and also doesn't mind taking it as much), and switching in on a resists not a completely infallable tactic. Why would you risk that on your sweeper, or set up mon, when you can let Uxie take what to it will be a really weak hit considering Uxies considerable defenses. Uxie is bulky enough to not have to worry about being OHKOed whilst setting up Screens. Therefore, the bulkier and slower set is definately preferable.
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The whole point of the set is that you can control if you have to, and the set can be re-usable with its good speed. You can use Momento if you want to get a frail sweeper in untouched, hence why its on the set. And a slower Uxie may not get the Momento off, especially with things like CB Heracross outspeeding it. The screens take care of the defenses. I don't see why you have to invest fully to defenses on a Pokemon with no reliable recovery that's main point of the set is to sack itself anyway. Get your screens out, do it quickly, and get out of there. If you want to use a slower Uxie, your better off using U-Turn and going Relaxed with 0 Speed for the slowest possible U-turn and maximum defenses.

As for Tyranitar, Reflect pretty much neuters it anyway (isn't that the point?). If Tar switches in on your Light Screen or any other attack , you simply Reflect in its face, then Momento / U-turn and its set-up fodder for the next Pokemon, meaning you accomplished your job. I don't see why EVing it to survive Tyranitar is so necessary since its not gonna die from it and taking repeated hits from a Choice Band Tyranitar isn't the plan. In fact, Max HP, 0 Def Uxie takes a maximum of 60% from Tyranitar and seeing as how you outspeed Tyranitar and have Momento, you will never sustain more than one hit from Tar.
 
Having used Uxie quite extensively, I can safely say that the added bulk is worth it. Uxie is not some one time use and dispose screener like Azelf. Although it has Memento, the aim of the set is to set up dual screens, and possibly further reduce the foe's stats with Memento. Reflect and Light Screen are infinitely more useful to a team than the drop caused by Memento - they last for 8 turns and reduce damage from all of your opponent's pokemon, as opposed to the singular drop to one pokemon caused by Memento, which will just be alleviated as soon as the opponent switches, i.e. next turn. It is more valuable to have the defenses to set up screens more than once in a battle than be able to kill yourself against faster opponents. With 76 EVs, Uxie gets all the speed it needs. It outspeeds Scizor and Tyranitar, two of its most common switchins, and can set up screens before them. I really think any faster is a waste.
 
I mean its preference I guess. But 354 / 296 / 297 defenses with 317 Speed and Dual Screens isn't really a "waste" since many Pokemon cannot achieve that to begin with! Not to mention the most "dangerous" physical attacks are generally fighting, which Uxie resists anyway.
 
Mentioned advantages of Jolly max speed:

"However, a Jolly nature and maximum Speed can be run, allowing Uxie to set up a screen before many threats expected to be faster than it, in particular Lucario and Dragon Dance Salamence."

Is that enough or should I expand it a bit more? And thanks to everyone for the grammar checks, etc, I forgot to mention it before ^_^
 
Third paragraph, final sentence;
U-turn is also available for use in the last slot, granting Uxie another way to leave the field without having to sacrifice itself, and also means that Uxie isn't stopped dead by Taunt.
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U-turn means, not mean.
Well written, keep it up ;)
 
nice set to say the least but you should also consider puting trick room on him and making him relaxed with lowest possible speed (obviously) droping stealth rocks and taking the spe ivs and moving them to sp def so it would work somthing like this : uxie come in on somthing that will switch set up trick room and depending on what kind of attacker comes in us the appropriate screen followed by the other screen then switch or momento if you have lost more then half of your health setting up a sweeper that will be very very hard to stop while trick room is going unless your opponet has a slow slow team (not likely )
 
There is already a Trick Room Uxie in the analysis. I'll add a mention of Trick Room next to where I mention weather as other support moves for the last slot.
 
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