It doesn't actually use the pose ingame, it's just for the Pokedex I think. They do the same in Pokemon HomeThere...are. They changed some of the poses of the models to resemble the original DP sprite poses. I just mentioned Bibarel as an example in my comment.
Pose in everything before this game:
I just want to see if Tropius was lucky enough to get such a change.
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The original tweets reporting this are all censored at this point but I first saw it here:
If that's the case, that's disappointing, and a whole thread of redditors/twitter followers are going to be in for a rude awakening since they were lead to believe that these were in-battle models.
"New poses finally" my ass.
It'd be nice to know if Heracross was available in a similar fashion. Barry notably used the two most coveted and rare mons you could find via Honey Trees (Heracross and Snorlax). Heracross would make a solid addition to an in game team.
They do. There was a video of the leaker's battle against final Cyrus where his Empoleon looked to have a 2HKO on Honchkrow I think, and Cyrus promptly switched in his Gyarados. The AI looks pretty smart. Only Cynthia used to switch in Platinum from my experience.
And aside from that you can always over-level the content, or spam healing items, and etc. If you really want a challenge, your best option is online play. Even the best AI in the world would have difficulty replicating the entire "prediction" angle of competitive battle which is why people switch in the first place.
As you said, it's a nice small addition. It's no Battle Frontier where the challenge came from the limitations set on the player, which kept things fair when facing a fairly simple AI opponent.
Yeah those iamges are both from the pokedex specifically
I would bet they dont even move? (& also furthers my thoughts that the DP sprites being added means there's a way to flip to "sprite mode" for the pokedex or something)
Heracross isn't in the underground
Technically this isn't new since Bibarel has a sitting pose from amie but it's a neat reference.There...are. They changed some of the poses of the models to resemble the original DP sprite poses. I just mentioned Bibarel as an example in my comment.
Pose in everything before this game:
I just want to see if Tropius was lucky enough to get such a change. I'm doubtful because its a Post Game mon, but there's always a chance.
They did move. Apparently some might be used in the overworld as idle or walking animations like Monferno.
This isn't really about data but the official renders have the same poses as the DP sprites as well.
This seemed like a good question and I had the data for it, so here are wild held items!
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Small disclaimer: I did not bother translating the types directly from the game code because I uh... felt pretty confident they weren't changing any, but if there are any wrong types, those would be on my end and not the game's P:
Everything else is directly from BDSP though!
Sadly, I can confirm a 5% rate of Electirizer/Magmarizer on all three stages :c
This also got me a convenient list of catch rates, and I remembered someone asked about Dialga and Palkia - those two are still 3, surprisingly! That's going to be rough on new players, if you're back to being unable to leave Spear Pillar without catching them o.o'
I put all of the raw numbers on that sheet, but I don't actually know if they are a numerical scale or if they're IDs for something or what XP
Here's the Pickup table! Dawn Stones will realistically stay fixed at 4% for most of the main story, save a very brief period of 3% from levels 11 to 20. Assuming the Ability still has a 10% activation rate, that's 0.4% or 0.3% per battle!
Both are based on data provided by Kaphotics as usual! (you can also just use the Pickup table linked in the OP, admittedly - that one is quite readable already and making a spreadsheet was deeply extraneous P:
edit: neither of these is terribly important, haha; they're just meant to answer specific questions - I do not think it would make any sense to list them in the OP or anything and I swear I'm not trying to make people save a million links P:
edit Marty: aaaa that's amazing
There's something incredible about finding the answer to a BDSP-related question based on comments in the original source code of DP :'D
I've added that to the sheet - thanks so much!!!
And oops, I should really have remembered those were Abilities since I already used the same information for the Trainer sheet, haha - whoops! Thanks for confirming that :'D I have updated the data sheet accordingly, although I guess maybe the focus should be on the minutia like catch rates and items there rather than stuff that won't have changed, so perhaps I will hide those columns XP
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According to the original DP source, a comment next to BADGE_ID_C09 says "Kissaki, Rock Climb", so it would be the seventh badge from Snowpoint.
Great work on the spreadsheets by the way!
Do you need waterfall for every Underground fire type not names Ponyta or am I reading the doc wrong?
We were writing our posts at the same time but I have an answer for this too! Tokusei is Ability, so those are slot 1, 2, and HA IDs.
Magby (Pearl only) & Houndoom are special pokemon who wanders around regardless of what else is happening.
All the other fire types in the underground aside from Ponyta are, I guess, post-game only
Well kind of funny how the fire type problem ultimately came back to roost
Yup, Tropius has a good standing animation in Amie as well, so I was hoping they repurposes those into battle idle animations, but I guess not.
So if I get Brilliant Diamond, I have a choice of TWO Fire types instead of ONE if I don't pick Chimchar... They not only didn't fix Flint's Round 1 Team, but they didn't give enough Pokemon for him to make a full Fire team with Pre-NatDex Pokemon.
Between this and finding out some Underground Pokemon can run away after the NatDex, I'm starting to lean back toward the "hating and not letting them live down Flint" side.
Ouch, that's rough. Dawn Stone in particular is pretty difficult; at least Gallade and Froslass are only alternate final forms...
The sad thing is this is better than the stone trio's ever been as far as pick up is concerned
In DP, the Dawn stone didn't even enter the pool until level 51
You know they really should have just placed the evolution items around the map where tehy are in Platinum, like how they plopped the gracedia's npc down.
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So has literally anyone bothered talking with those new NPCs around the map that have a pokemon next to them. Like what are they doing, exactly. Are they just rando new NPCs, do they give you stickers, statues, what is happening with them.
Plat does have the superior teambuilding.
Basically, this is DP with a REALLY good engine and a LOT of QoL.
The mon selection, bells and whistles are different between it and Plat, so they feel distinctly different.
If you plan to mod, this is THE game. Otherwise, you gotta ask yourself how much you wanna play Gen 4 again.
Ultimately, you gotta pick your priorities. What I can vouch for is that the game is excellent.
Every flaw in DP got fixed, but in a different way that Plat did.
That's on the Dex.There...are. They changed some of the poses of the models to resemble the original DP sprite poses. I just mentioned Bibarel as an example in my comment.
Pose in everything before this game:
I just want to see if Tropius was lucky enough to get such a change. I'm doubtful because its a Post Game mon, but there's always a chance.
Dex got different, non combat-ready animations, it's especially noticeable and cool with Monferno.
New idles are dex-only from what I've seen around.
Thank god the Dawn Stone in Mt. Coronet is still available. That becomes available just after Surf, which isn't too bad, even if the one west of Pastoria would've been better. Otherwise, Gallade and Froslass would be all but unviable for an in game run as well.
Oh! I didn't know this, that's good
Except for the fire types. There's 3 in diamond and 4 in pearl pre waterfall.
The luck lmao.
Well, it is the generation that introduced the lowest amount of Fire-types, with only six (one of them a legendary, another a cross-gen evo, another wasn't a Fire-type back then, and the last one the starter)
Looks like BD is really getting the long end here. Gliscor, Honchkrow, Tyranitar, the dogs, Solrock. I know which version I'm getting.
