Breeding Perfect Pokemon in Pokemon X&Y

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The Everstone doesn't help with IVs, only nature. Consider using a Power Belt on the father and a Destiny Knot on the mother until you have a male that is maxed HP and Defense, then re-breed with the same mother holding Everstone and the new father holding Destiny Knot.

Thanks man, ha, I actually did that before going to bed without seeing this post to shake things up a little and I got 3 Max'ed IV's in 3 babies - 31 HP, 31 Def, 31 Spd.
 
I have a question for x/y
I have ditto (destiny knot) with 31/x/31/x/31/x
And a female joltik (everstone) with x/31/x/31/x/31
Lucky enough i got 1 joltik female with 5 perfect IV save for sp. attack
Would it be better to use the newly hatched 5 perfect iv with a desitny knot and use a male joltik with a sp atk power item?
To spawn a perfect 6 iv
Depends on what the IVs are on the Male really. But once both parents are 5 IVs the last one is just going to be luck of the draw. The power items and Destiny Knot don't stack additively, meaning that the stat passed down by the power item will count for one of the five for Destiny Knot.

Having said that assuming you have a Male Joltik with a perfect Sp Atk (and nothing else for this example, if he has more then it will just be further along the line), then breeding him with the new 5 IV Joltik will A. Create eggs faster than with a Ditto so you iterate your chances more often. B. will more likely produce a baby with more IVs than the current male so you'll be able to replace the male with the new one and get to two parents with 5 IVs faster. Again after you've hit this point it's pretty much luck of the draw and you only need Destiny Knot. (Everstone is good if one of them has the nature you want)
 
how is it possible that my 31 31 31 x 31 31 parrents (both have that spread) stil get x 31 31 x 31 31 kids while one of them has the destiny knot?

that should be impossible
 
how is it possible that my 31 31 31 x 31 31 parrents (both have that spread) stil get x 31 31 x 31 31 kids while one of them has the destiny knot?

that should be impossible
Destiny Knot is accounting for the Parents Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, Spe and the 6th random IV is the HP.
 
If I understand Destiny Knot correctly, with this spread (31 31 31 x 31 31) on both parents, the X stat (Sp.Atk?) is going to be imperfect because neither has a perfect one to pass down.

Destiny Knot is accounting for the Parents Atk, Def, SpA, SpD, Spe and the 6th random IV is the HP.
Is this how it always works? A,D,Sa,Sd and speed are always the ones picked between the two to pass down and HP is always random?

I have a Protean Froakie breeding pair. Don't know the shorthand, but both have 5 IVs with one having non-perfect attack and the other having non-perfect Sp.Def

I haven't done anything with natures but my breeding pair are Sassy and Timid. What would be some good natures for Froakie? I haven't used him but I hear his attack stats are about equal anyway.
 
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This needs to be in the OP if its not already

Using a Destiny Knot:
If both parents have the same 31/31/31/x/31/31 spread, and the desired child is 31/31/31/x/31/31, there is a 1/6 chance of getting the correct inheritance spread and a 5/6 chance of NOT getting the correct inheritance spread.

Of the 5/6, there is a 1/32 chance of the incorrect inheritance spread producing the correct IVs anyway, or 5/192 chance.
There is an overall 197/1152 (19.27%) chance of getting the correct IVs.

If the desired child is a 31/31/31/31/31/31 child and both parents are 31/31/31/31/31/31, there is a 1/32 chance of getting that child.
 
If the desired child is a 31/31/31/31/31/31 child and both parents are 31/31/31/31/31/31, there is a 1/32 chance of getting that child.
So even when you do manage to get two perfect parents, you still only have a chance of getting a perfect child? This definitely needs to be in the OP
 
Thanks for the brilliant guide. I am trying to start out as a breeder, obviously its quite daunting!

With the advent of friend safari its obviously a lot easier to start with a double flawless Pokemon. What about Pokemon that aren't in the safari? Is it just a case of luck/trading so you can start your breeding chain?
 
What about Pokemon that aren't in the safari? Is it just a case of luck/trading so you can start your breeding chain?

It's best to start with something from the Safari in the same Egg group, get a male with perfect IVs in that Egg group then breed with a female of the desired pokemon as it goes much quicker that way when you have a chance of producing a female with more and more perfect IVs to swap in to the Day Care.
 
Hi, how do I breed the hidden ability? I have a female Dratini with Marvel Scale but all of my baby Dratinis have shed skin? Whats up with this? I'm breeding with a male Gyarados with Intimidate if that matters
 
Thanks for the brilliant guide. I am trying to start out as a breeder, obviously its quite daunting!

With the advent of friend safari its obviously a lot easier to start with a double flawless Pokemon. What about Pokemon that aren't in the safari? Is it just a case of luck/trading so you can start your breeding chain?

The other (and possibly better) option if you're going to have to chain, is to catch some of the Baby pokemon available and breed them over to the egg group you want (or if they're in the same egg group then it's even better). Baby pokemon (and all in the No Egg Group) are caught in the wild with 3 perfect IVs.

One thing that might be worth doing if you're starting out is getting a quint or perfect male of the baby Pokemon lines. Eg last night I bred a quint Marill so I can use it to pass IVs to anything that has water 1 or fairy as a second egg group, Snorunt in this case as I want to breed something in the mineral egg group. It's a lot easier since you will be starting with 3 IV parents. (preferably with different spreads and then use destiny knot and power items to pass down till you get quints)
 
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Its somewhat annoying to breed egg moves, mainly because you need to do a flawless breed of two different species, get both parents at a desirable level, and deal with the low egg spawn rate. Doable, but annoying.
 
Just bred my first two flawless Pokemon, thanks to this guide and the assistance above.

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Larvesta (x 1 ♀ x 1)
Timid
Flame Body
31 / X / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31
Hatched; Lumiose City

Happy with that :)
Now I shall attempt something that dosen't take so damn long to hatch :o
 
Its somewhat annoying to breed egg moves, mainly because you need to do a flawless breed of two different species, get both parents at a desirable level, and deal with the low egg spawn rate. Doable, but annoying.
Once you get the egg moves onto one parent, you can drop the other species. I can breed two Snubbull together and as long as one of them knows Heal Bell (egg move originally from Skitty) then the babies will all be born with Heal Bell.
 
Once you get the egg moves onto one parent, you can drop the other species. I can breed two Snubbull together and as long as one of them knows Heal Bell (egg move originally from Skitty) then the babies will all be born with Heal Bell.
True, but you need to be careful that your time in the daycare doesn't force your parents to forget the move. You can of course use the move relearner if that happens.
 
Breeding 31x Pokemon is easy, but what about Hidden Power spreads? Making the big assumption that hidden power typing works the same as Gen 5, its not exactly a convenient process to IV breed 30s instead of 31s. Anyone have ideas?
 
True, but you need to be careful that your time in the daycare doesn't force your parents to forget the move. You can of course use the move relearner if that happens.
So long as the parent remains in the daycare, their moveset doesn't change (The game updates the moveset when you pull them out) - A female Dragon Dance Charmander with Ditto mate placed in the daycare at level 1 results in every egg knowing Dragon Dance, even though said Charmander has hit level 30 and will not have Dragon Dance once I remove her from the daycare. If I pull her out and then place her back in without Dragon Dance, no further eggs will know the move either.

As for Hidden Power manipulation, I assume we're back to the old science of checking the Hidden Power guy (Anistar City) and then checking IVs once we have an HP we want.
 
So long as the parent remains in the daycare, their moveset doesn't change (The game updates the moveset when you pull them out) - A female Dragon Dance Charmander with Ditto mate placed in the daycare at level 1 results in every egg knowing Dragon Dance, even though said Charmander has hit level 30 and will not have Dragon Dance once I remove her from the daycare. If I pull her out and then place her back in without Dragon Dance, no further eggs will know the move either.
Really? I did not know that. That would explain some wonkiness I had with certain egg moves earlier.
 
As for Hidden Power manipulation, I assume we're back to the old science of checking the Hidden Power guy (Anistar City) and then checking IVs once we have an HP we want.

From what's been found on the battle research thread that it looks like the HP formula is actually unchanged. ( http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pokémon-battle-mechanics-research.3489239/page-25 conversation starts from the last post on that page) There have been no reports of anyone actually getting a HP fairy. This isn't 100% confirmed, but it's looking that way.
 
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Not yet. It's not too hard to get Ditto with three or even four 31 IVs, though.
 
This thread is absolutely thebomb.com

Are there any ways to reliably get Dittos with more than 2 flawless IVs?
Not in XY. You will have to wait for PokeBank to be released, then you can RNG some flawless Dittos from previous generations and import them.
 
That's unfortunate. Trying to breed a perfect Chansey is proving frustrating since it's Female only.

31/x/31/31/31/x Chansey + 31/x/x/x/x/31 Ditto.

I'm not feeling lucky.
 
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