Aggron: No longer the retarded child of Rhydon and Registeel

I have to agree that aggron is better in OU play however I don't see that as a reason to not allow in UU play. I know OU is determined by usuage; but I think they should move him to UU and allow him there so everyoone can have the fun of playing with the love child of tyranitar and metagross lol

Edit: I myself have used him in both. I found that in UU the rock polish set is quite effective as long as donphan, quagsire, and registeel if it has eq are out of the way. As scarfs are less common in UU then OU aggron outspeeds alot of stuff and can OTK all those frail sweepers that think they are cool. Also besides those counters few pokemon carry earthquake while the vaccum wave/ mach punch is only used by blaziken, toxicroak and top. I just hope that he stays avialable to UU because it is fun with him even though he isn't perfect.

I built a UU team around rock polish aggron feel free to give it a rate.
 
I've been using SubLiechi RP Aggron in OU for a few battles and I have to say, it's like someone strapped a nuke to SubPetaya Empoleon. It's incredible and will usually tear through two or three Pokemon every match and is very easy to set up. I'll bring it out five turns in and suddenly it's lategame. It's that good.
 
At a guess, 252 Speed, 252 Attack, to maximise the boosts.

The brilliant thing about Aggron, is that it's defensive stats are better than Skarmory's, collectivly, in the sand, they're higher than Blissey! Aggron's Subs are fearsomely bulky. If something uses Outrage, bring in aformentioned RP Sub Aggron, take a hit, sub, Rock Polish as they continue Outrage (Which dosen't even break the sub, short of boosted Salamance)/Switch, then, either attack, or continue set-up.

Focus Punch is a decent move for a Sub set, meaning Aggron has 2 BP 150 moves. However, Earthquake is equally good, if only because of 'Quakehead', and lack of needing a sub up.

Specially defensive Aggron in the sand is possibly the best switch in for a Salamance in the whole metagame. Choiced sets are actually set-up fodder. It can come in on Draco Meteor all day. It only 'fears' earthquake, but if you have a Scarfgon/Latias in the wings, and predict EQ, that's Salamance dead or forced out anyway.

Speaking of, Latias and Aggron cover each other perfectly. Latias is immune to Ground, and resists Water and Fighting, while Aggron resists Dragon, Ice, Ghost, and Dark.
 
I'm surprised a Scarf revenge killer set is not listed here. With a Choice Scarf and a Jolly nature, Aggron can outspeed and OHKO some major threats in the UU metagame, namely Choice Specs + Tinted Lens Yanmega, Roserade, and others
 
shrang said:
I'm surprised a Scarf revenge killer set is not listed here. With a Choice Scarf and a Jolly nature, Aggron can outspeed and OHKO some major threats in the UU metagame, namely Choice Specs + Tinted Lens Yanmega, Roserade, and others
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Failing to outspeed even the positive base 100s with a Choice Scarf, and sacrificing an attacking boosting nature doesn't sound too appealing to me.
 
shrang said:
I'm surprised a Scarf revenge killer set is not listed here. With a Choice Scarf and a Jolly nature, Aggron can outspeed and OHKO some major threats in the UU metagame, namely Choice Specs + Tinted Lens Yanmega, Roserade, and others
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There are plenty of pokemon in UU who perform that role better, namely Moltres(who can lead your team and scout with U-turn or take out lead Yanmega, if they stay in), Houndoom, Blaziken, and Magmortar. These obviously don't present the same physical threat as Aggron, but there are simply too many bulky grounds to run a Jolly nature and no attack boosting item.
 
sanjay120 said:
I've been using SubLiechi RP Aggron in OU for a few battles and I have to say, it's like someone strapped a nuke to SubPetaya Empoleon. It's incredible and will usually tear through two or three Pokemon every match and is very easy to set up. I'll bring it out five turns in and suddenly it's lategame. It's that good.
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Nice, I am glad you like it! Once Scarfers and random priority users are eliminated Aggron can easily come in and wreck an entire team. Nice to see other people using it.

gary the gengar said:
What ev spread do you use for sub-liechi rp aggron? I would like to test that sometime.
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Its on the OP...but if your to lazy here it is:

It is the simple 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe. Jolly is the preferred nature because it allows you to outrun some scarfers such as Adamant Heracross and Timid (or Naive) Scarftrans. If you want to go Adamant, thats cool because it facilitates a 525 Attack stat once you get the Leichi boost.

Have any of you found Aggron extremely punishing to stall teams? Head Smash wrecks the ForryBliss or SkarmBliss combo, hurts the Rotom appliances badly, and hurts phazers like Vaporeon or Gyarados hard. The only thing it can't get through are Swampert and Hippowdon, which can easily be solved by using Celebi. Also being immmune to Sandstorm (and getting an added benefit) and Toxic Spikes helps a lot.

Speaking of Celebi, lets discuss good team partners. I have already mentioned Zapdos but it went largely unnoticed. To kick it off, I will post a support Celebi set that will help Aggron sweep much easier.

Celebi
Celebi is a great Aggron partner for several reasons.
  • Has very good Synergy with Aggron, resisting Ground, Fighting and Water, while Aggron resists Bug, Dark, Ghost, Flying, Ice and Poison(lol).
  • Celebi eliminates Bulky Waters and Bulky Grounds via STAB or can wear them down with Leech Seed.
  • Lures in Scizor, allowing Aggron to set up easily on a Pursuit or X-Scissor.
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Celebi@ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold nature (+Defense, -Attack)
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
~Thunder Wave
~Leech Seed
~Recover
~Grass Knot

With Celebi's impressive defensive bulk and access to Leech Seed, it can make a fine partner to Aggron. Paralysis helps as it slows down any Scarfers that will ruin your Rock Polish Aggron, and helps allow Band or Life Orb versions to sweep easier. Leech Seed is primarily an annoying move, allowing you to sap HP from your opponent and wears down Bulky Waters and Grounds such as Swampert, Suicune and Vaporeon. Recover is almost critical; it allows you to become even more annoying and keeps your surivability up. Grass Knot is a nice, reliable move to help you wear down those trying to end your Aggron sweep.

The EV's gives you maximum bulk and allows you to survive Tyranitar's Crunches, allowing you to switch Aggron in and do some start your sweep. Celebi will have trouble getting through Heatran and Scizor, so having something to get through both of these is helpful. Infernape is probably your best bet, however, it must be wary of Earth Powers coming from Heatran.

Comments? Suggestions? Post your Aggron teammates here!

Edit: Got a log.
Code: 
Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Witness315 sent out Roserade (lvl 100 Roserade ?).
tinuz sent out Crobat (lvl 100 Crobat ?).
Witness315 switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Crobat used Taunt.
Zapdos fell for the taunt!
---
Crobat used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Zapdos lost 12% of its health.
tinuz switched in Mamoswine (lvl 100 Mamoswine ?).
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
It's super effective!
Mamoswine lost 100% of its health.
tinuz's Mamoswine fainted.
Zapdos lost 10% of its health.
---
tinuz: nicely done
tinuz switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Witness315: thank you =)
Witness315: oops
Witness315 switched in Rotom-h (lvl 100 Rotom-h).
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
Rotom-h lost 42% of its health.
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
tinuz switched in Alakazam (lvl 100 Alakazam ?).
Rotom-h used Charge Beam.
Alakazam lost 27% of its health.
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
Alakazam used Light Screen.
A barrier was formed!
Rotom-h used Charge Beam.
Alakazam lost 13% of its health.
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
tinuz switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Rotom-h used Charge Beam.
Zapdos lost 14% of its health.
Rotom-h's special attack was raised.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
Witness315: oh come on
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
Rotom-h lost 45% of its health.
Rotom-h used Charge Beam.
Zapdos lost 18% of its health.
Rotom-h's special attack was raised.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
Witness315: hmm
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
Rotom-h lost 40% of its health.
Rotom-h used Shadow Ball.
Zapdos lost 36% of its health.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
Zapdos used Thunderbolt.
It's not very effective...
Rotom-h lost 10% of its health.
Witness315's Rotom-h fainted.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
---
Witness315 switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Zapdos used Thunderbolt.
Zapdos lost 33% of its health.
Zapdos lost 10% of its health.
Zapdos used Roost.
Zapdos restored 50% of its health.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
---
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
Zapdos lost 36% of its health.
Zapdos was burned!
Zapdos used Roost.
Zapdos restored 50% of its health.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
Zapdos was hurt by its burn!
Zapdos lost 12% of its health.
---
Zapdos used Thunderbolt.
Zapdos lost 58% of its health.
Zapdos used Hidden Power.
Zapdos lost 18% of its health.
Zapdos lost 10% of its health.
Zapdos's light screen wore off!
Zapdos was hurt by its burn!
Zapdos lost 2% of its health.
Witness315's Zapdos fainted.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
---
Witness315: hmm
Witness315: for some reason
Witness315: my Zapdos has HP Dragon
tinuz: o.o
Witness315 switched in Aggron (lvl 100 Aggron ?).
tinuz: or maybe hp fire
Witness315: >:)
tinuz: lol i dunno
tinuz: that thing
tinuz: there's so hype around it now
tinuz: but i haven't fought one
tinuz: damn
Witness315: oh yeah
Witness315: this thing is amazing
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
Aggron lost 57% of its health.
Aggron used Rock Polish.
Aggron's speed was sharply raised.
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
---
Aggron used Substitute.
Aggron lost 25% of its health.
Aggron made a substitute!
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
The substitute took damage for Aggron!
Aggron's substitute faded!
Aggron's Liechi Berry raised its attack!
Zapdos's leftovers restored its health a little!
Zapdos restored 6% of its health.
---
Aggron used Head Smash.
It's super effective!
Zapdos lost 87% of its health.
tinuz's Zapdos fainted.
---
tinuz switched in Empoleon (lvl 100 Empoleon ?).
Aggron used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Empoleon lost 100% of its health.
tinuz's Empoleon fainted.
---
tinuz switched in Lucario (lvl 100 Lucario ?).
Lucario used Extremespeed.
It's not very effective...
Aggron lost 5% of its health.
Lucario lost 10% of its health.
Aggron used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Lucario lost 90% of its health.
tinuz's Lucario fainted.
---
tinuz switched in Crobat (lvl 100 Crobat ?).
Aggron used Head Smash.
It's super effective!
Crobat lost 100% of its health.
Crobat hung on using its Focus Sash!
Crobat used U-turn.
It's not very effective...
Aggron lost 6% of its health.
Witness315: lol
tinuz switched in Alakazam (lvl 100 Alakazam ?).
---
Aggron used Earthquake.
Alakazam lost 60% of its health.
tinuz's Alakazam fainted.
---
tinuz switched in Crobat (lvl 100 Crobat ?).
Aggron used Head Smash.
It's super effective!
Crobat lost 0% of its health.
tinuz's Crobat fainted.
Witness315 wins!
tinuz: gg
Witness315: gg

EDIT: Ok, this is important. When using Substitute/Leichi Aggron, it is critical that you do NOT have any EV's in HP, and have an IV of 30 for HP. If you run 4 EV's in HP, you will have an HP stat that is not divisible by four, so the new EV spread is this:

252 Atk/4 SpD/252 Speed
30 HP

Thank you!
 
Aggron stinks in UU. I tried both the Rock Polish and SubRise sets in the past week and they haven't been successful. Technicians like Hitmontop and Ambipom get an easy sweep. Dugtrio and Donphan can easily come in and get rid of you. Azumarill and Feraligatr can check you and get a free setup. You miss a few key OHKOs with the rock polish set, rendering it nearly useless. Mismagius can take advantage on a revenge kill, OHKOing you with HP Fighting if you stay in, and setting up Nasty Plot if it predicts you switching out.
 
Slumdog said:
I have to agree that aggron is better in OU play however I don't see that as a reason to not allow in UU play. I know OU is determined by usuage; but I think they should move him to UU and allow him there so everyoone can have the fun of playing with the love child of tyranitar and metagross lol

Edit: I myself have used him in both. I found that in UU the rock polish set is quite effective as long as donphan, quagsire, and registeel if it has eq are out of the way. As scarfs are less common in UU then OU aggron outspeeds alot of stuff and can OTK all those frail sweepers that think they are cool. Also besides those counters few pokemon carry earthquake while the vaccum wave/ mach punch is only used by blaziken, toxicroak and top. I just hope that he stays avialable to UU because it is fun with him even though he isn't perfect.

I built a UU team around rock polish aggron feel free to give it a rate.
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There's no "moving him" to UU or OU. He stays in the tier he is until his usage in the tiers goes up to a point where he moves automatically.

If he sees the most usage in UU and not enough in OU, he'll move to UU. Conversely, if he ends up seeing enough use in OU battles, he'll graduate all the way to OU and be unusable in UU. That's just how the tiering works - if a pokemon is used enough, it'll move up, if not, it won't. The only tiers that aren't usage related are BL and Uber, because they are ban lists.


Also, as soon as I'm able to, I want an Aggron on my doubles Sand pass. Anyone have any ideas for what he could do in doubles?
 
Witness315 said:
celebi
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I really like Celebi as a partner. I might consider a Screen over Leech Seed, to provide Aggron with extra time to setup, if he is indeed the Rock Polish variety.
Likewise, most of the Levitating Ghost and Psychic provide Aggron with good synergy. Rotom Forms, Gengar and Mismagius all threaten Water types with Thunderbolt, while luring in Tyranitar and Scizor. Rotom Forms can setup Reflect, and even burn the likes of troublesome Swamperts, while providing para support.

Slowbro makes an interesting combonation with Aggron on paper. He can take Water/Fighting attacks aimed at Aggron, Thunder-Wave, Recover, setup Screens.

I've played wtih Aggron a bit, but I need more time. I think Choice Band is definitely the variety I'll like the most in OU, although I want to Magnet Rise a chance as well. Even a set where Aggron runs Thunder-Wave on his own in a more supportive role could be fun.
 
Call me strange, but I run these two together to some nice success (and it's fun too!):
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These are now two of the most potent wallbreakers, launching off STAB attacks that 2hko even the best of walls and strangely these two actually cover each others weaknesses relatively well -

- Aggron covers Medicham's ghost weakness and 4x resists flying
- Medicham covers Aggron's Fighting weakness, although I run a Cresselia aswell to cover ground and fighting more efficiently.

Aggron
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Aggron @ Choice Band
Ability: Rock Head
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252HP/252Atk/4Def
- Head Smash
- Earthquake
- Aqua Tail
- Double Edge

With a Choice Band attached, Aggron manages to 2hko or OHKO the best of walls - Forretress and Skarmory are both 2hkoed. This also puts huge dents in anything that switches in, bar Hippo and Pert. The EVs give Aggron the most bulk possible, which gives it amazing defences under Cresselia's Reflect.


Medicham
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Medicham @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pure Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4HP/252Atk/252Spe
- Hi-Jump Kick
- Psycho Cut
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch

Medicham is always underestimated due to its frailty, but after Aggron has weakened or defeated their physical walls Medicham really shines - often bringing me back from 3-1 situations. Medicham also weakens Aggron's usual counters aswell, doing hefty damage to Swampert and Hippowdon - although the latter always annoyingly manage to Slack Off the damage.

Aggron and Medicham create a two word saying:
Wanna? Lose.
 
I am tired of seeing people running 4th coverage slot on choiced Medicham. Trick is superior IMHO. Cripples counters, mang!
 
Celebi@ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold nature (+Defense, -Attack)
252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
~Thunder Wave
~Leech Seed
~Recover
~Grass Knot
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this is pretty similar to the set I've been running, which I named "Little Buddy" since it's whole purpose is to cover Aggron

Celebi@ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold nature (+Defense, -Attack)
252 HP/36 Spe/220 Def
~Thunder Wave
~Light Screen
~Recover
~Grass Knot

I'm thinking of maybe running heal bell for more of a cleric role, but I'm not really sure since everything on this set is really useful

EDIT: I'm tired of people running Aqua Tail on CBGron, it only hits two pokemon harder than Head Smash, same with Double Edge (which never hits harder than HS). They might have less BP but the elemental punches give much better coverage (Breloom, Gliscor, Flygon and Bronzong can no longer take a hit, Forretress gets OHKOd now).
 
I just wanna throw out the possibility of using Zoom Lens over Stone Plate since Zoom Lens increases the chance that Head Smash will hit by 20%. This essentially means that Head Smash goes from an 80% accuracy move to a 96% accuracy move. Along with that boost, Aqua Tail gets a 20% boost, going from 90% accuracy to essentially a 100% accurate water move. But, for those using Toxic, don't worry as it also increases Toxic's accuracy from 85% to essentially a 100% accurate Poison move. Just throwing out the idea of Zoom Lens. Wonder if anyone will test it. =D

- LB -

EDIT: Mountain Dewgong, the battle that you posted isn't accurate due to the fact that HS has a 20% chance to miss. So if you hit 6 times in a row, you're one lucky bastard. Since it only has a 26.21% of hitting 6 times in a row without missing. (.8 x .8 x .8 x .8 x .8 x .8 = .262144)
 
Zoom Lens increases critical-hit ratio so I think you're confusing it with Wide Lens. Wide Lens only increases accuracy by 10% though so I'd much rather go with the 30% boost of LO, the 20% STAB boost of Stone Plate or just good ol' Leftovers. Wide Lens is a waste here, people really shouldn't be so paranoid about missing; Rock Head Head Smash is still one of the best moves on the game regardless of its less than stellar accuracy.
 
Zoom Lens Raises accuracy 20% if the holder moves after the target.

Way to go Smogon Item analysis.

If it's 10% I don't think that it's worth it then. But, MD's battle log is still inaccurate since you have a very low chance of hitting 6 times in a row. Maybe if you could win by missing a couple, that'd be great.
 
Yeah, the item analysis is currently wrong. I checked it in-game and it's definitely critical-hit ratio.

Even if that wasn't the case, like Lemmiwinks said in the other thread (and I don't know why you felt obliged to post the same thing in both threads), it still wouldn't be worth it as there are so many other items that are much better.

I mentioned this on Shoddy earlier but it seems as though Salamence could also be a good partner for Aggron in OU. He resists Fight/Ground/Water whereas Aggron resists Dragon/Rock/Ice. Perhaps more importantly though, Salamence is probably the last Pokemon on the game who you want to give a free turn to so Mence loves the prospect of a teammate that is so good at luring Ground and Fighting attacks.
 
Lee said:
Yeah, the item analysis is currently wrong. I checked it in-game and it's definitely critical-hit ratio.
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The Scope Lens is what you're thinking of, I believe (which, like you said, boosts crit hit by one stage). Zoom Lens boosts accuracy by 20% if you go second and Wide Lens just gives a 10% boost, period, at least according to my Platinum file.
 
Aggron @ Stone Plate
Rock Head
Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
124 HP / 252 Atk / 132 Spe
- Screech
- Head Smash
- Earthquake/Aqua Tail
- Magnet Rise

Similar to my previous set, only this time, Screech over Toxic. After a Screech, standard Skarmory is OHKO'd by Head Smash without SR up, so you can lower your Speed to outspeed 8 EV Scizor, as you do not have to outspeed to deal with Skarmory.

Screech can force a lot of switches, as Head Smash already hit most of the game for ridiculous damage, but Screech turns the few that could survive two hits into fodder (an example of the sheer power, 252/252 +Def Cresselia has a 58.97% chance of being OHKO'd after SR and Screech). As such, this Aggron set thoroughly enjoys having Toxic Spikes and SR up more than other sets.
 
Me and you were discussing that on Shoddy, I think that is a pretty good set. Come in on Bronzong, Magnet Rise while they try to EQ you, Screech it and fire off Head Smashes, nice set fms.

Got another log, this is me and my friend Puffern playing.
Code: 
Rules: Extended Game, Sleep Clause, Soul Dew Clause, Species Clause, Timed Battle
Puffern sent out Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Witness315 sent out Roserade (lvl 100 Roserade ?).
Holele has entered the room.
Witness315: Good Luck
Azelf used Psychic.
It's super effective!
Roserade lost 88% of its health.
Roserade used Spikes.
Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
---
Witness315 switched in Aggron (lvl 100 Aggron ?).
Azelf used Psychic.
It's not very effective...
Aggron lost 38% of its health.
Aggron's special defence was lowered.
---
Witness315: heheheh
Puffern: hehee
Witness315: oh shit
Puffern: what
Witness315 switched in Empoleon (lvl 100 Empoleon ?).
Azelf used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Empoleon lost 54% of its health.
---
Puffern: lol
Witness315: special defense drop
Puffern: so
Witness315 switched in Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Azelf makes ground moves miss with Levitate!
Azelf used Hidden Power.
Azelf's attack missed!
---
Puffern: i 1hko even without hte drop
Witness315 switched in Rotom-h (lvl 100 Rotom-h).
Azelf used Signal Beam.
It's not very effective...
Rotom-h lost 16% of its health.
Rotom-h became confused!
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
Witness315: hmm
Azelf used Psychic.
Rotom-h lost 57% of its health.
Rotom-h is confused!
Rotom-h used Shadow Ball.
It's super effective!
Azelf lost 115% of its health.
Azelf hung on using its Focus Sash!
Rotom-h's leftovers restored its health a little!
Rotom-h restored 6% of its health.
---
Witness315: unfortunately
Witness315: I have no priority..
Azelf used Psychic.
Rotom-h lost 62% of its health.
Witness315's Rotom-h fainted.
---
Puffern: lol
Witness315 switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Azelf used Psychic.
Zapdos lost 51% of its health.
Zapdos used Thunderbolt.
Azelf lost 103% of its health.
Puffern's Azelf fainted.
Zapdos lost 10% of its health.
---
Puffern switched in Rotom-h (lvl 100 Rotom-h).
Rotom-h used Trick.
Rotom-h obtained Life Orb!
Zapdos obtained Choice Scarf!
Zapdos used Roost.
Zapdos restored 50% of its health.
---
Witness315: hmm
Witness315 switched in Roserade (lvl 100 Roserade ?).
Rotom-h used Discharge.
It's not very effective...
Roserade lost 27% of its health.
Witness315's Roserade fainted.
Rotom-h lost 10% of its health.
---
Witness315 switched in Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Azelf used Nasty Plot.
Azelf's special attack was sharply raised.
Rotom-h used Shadow Ball.
It's super effective!
Azelf lost 136% of its health.
Witness315's Azelf fainted.
Rotom-h lost 10% of its health.
---
Witness315: shit
Witness315: man rotom and azelf
Witness315: total fuckhole
Witness315 switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Puffern: lol
Zapdos used Heat Wave.
Rotom-h lost 47% of its health.
Rotom-h used Shadow Ball.
Zapdos lost 58% of its health.
Rotom-h lost 10% of its health.
---
Puffern switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
A sandstorm brewed!
Tyranitar was hurt by Spikes!
Tyranitar lost 12% of its health.
Witness315 switched in Empoleon (lvl 100 Empoleon ?).
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern: i draw the line here
Puffern: No more losses
Tyranitar used Flamethrower.
Empoleon lost 32% of its health.
Empoleon's Petaya Berry raised its special attack!
Tyranitar lost 10% of its health.
Empoleon used Substitute.
But it failed!
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern: :D
Witness315: hmm
Tyranitar used Flamethrower.
Empoleon lost 33% of its health.
Witness315's Empoleon fainted.
Tyranitar lost 10% of its health.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Witness315 switched in Aggron (lvl 100 Aggron ?).
Witness315: lets do this bitches
Puffern switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Scizor was hurt by Spikes!
Scizor lost 12% of its health.
Witness315 switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
The sandstorm rages.
Zapdos is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Zapdos lost 6% of its health.
---
Zapdos used Thunderbolt.
Scizor lost 67% of its health.
Scizor used Iron Head.
It's not very effective...
Zapdos lost 28% of its health.
Witness315's Zapdos fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern: lol
Witness315 switched in Aggron (lvl 100 Aggron ?).
Scizor used Iron Head.
Aggron lost 29% of its health.
Aggron used Rock Polish.
Aggron's speed was sharply raised.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern: fffff
Witness315: :D
Puffern switched in Smeargle (lvl 100 Smeargle ?).
Smeargle was hurt by Spikes!
Smeargle lost 12% of its health.
Aggron used Substitute.
Aggron lost 25% of its health.
Aggron made a substitute!
The sandstorm rages.
Smeargle is buffetted by the sandstorm!
Smeargle lost 6% of its health.
Aggron's Liechi Berry raised its attack!
Smeargle's leftovers restored its health a little!
Smeargle restored 6% of its health.
---
Holele: lol
Puffern: *twitch*
Aggron used Earthquake.
Smeargle lost 110% of its health.
Puffern's Smeargle fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern switched in Latias (lvl 100 Latias ?).
Aggron used Head Smash.
Latias lost 124% of its health.
Puffern's Latias fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern: fuckf uck fuck fuksfjsahf
Puffern switched in Rotom-h (lvl 100 Rotom-h).
Aggron used Head Smash.
Rotom-h lost 147% of its health.
Puffern's Rotom-h fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern: miss, god dam
Puffern switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Scizor was hurt by Spikes!
Scizor lost 12% of its health.
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
The substitute took damage for Aggron!
Aggron used Earthquake.
Scizor lost 52% of its health.
Puffern's Scizor fainted.
The sandstorm rages.
---
Puffern switched in Tyranitar (lvl 100 Tyranitar ?).
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
Tyranitar was hurt by Spikes!
Tyranitar lost 12% of its health.
Aggron used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 91% of its health.
Puffern's Tyranitar fainted.
Witness315 wins!
Puffern: gg
Witness315: gg
Puffern: <_<
Witness315: pwnage by Aggron
Puffern: psh
Witness315: lol
Holele has left the room.
Puffern: I could pwn you at doubles any day
Puffern: any day of the week
Witness315: doubles lol
Witness315: i bet you could
Puffern: lol
PhilosophicalPsych has entered the room.
Witness315: not in to doubles tbh
PhilosophicalPsych: gg?
Puffern: yup
Witness315: yeah
Puffern: he beat me by a sub
Witness315: Aggron ownage
Puffern: :(
Puffern: 5-1
Puffern: then 0-1
PhilosophicalPsych: oh dear
Witness315: Puffern if you dont mind
PhilosophicalPsych: warstory on forums
Witness315: I would like to save this log so I can post Aggron's ownage
Witness315: no
Puffern: lol
Puffern: uh
Witness315: this is not worth warstory lol
Puffern: that woud mke a shitty warstory psych
PhilosophicalPsych: Always savve the log of epic matches
Puffern: 3 of my 6 didnt do shit
Puffern: except die
PhilosophicalPsych: lol
Witness315: lol
Puffern: the other 3 wreced his team
Witness315: yeah
Witness315: Rotom Ttar and Azelf
Witness315: hey
Puffern: all weak to ghost/fighting coverage
Puffern: lol
Witness315: thats a pretty good group there
Puffern: alright cya :O
Witness315: bye!
Puffern has left the room.

I played terribly for the first part of the match then got aggron in and severe, severe ownage took place
 
The only thing I don't like about it is Bronzong runs so many support moves, you run into some problems in that it gets potentially 2 turns to set up things.

Reflect's the only one Aggron hates though. Bronzong's easy to deal with as long as he doesn't Reflect.

I still like it since it pseudo phazes and still deals with the same bulky Ground types for the most part.
 
fmsYEAH said:
Aggron @ Stone Plate
Rock Head
Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
124 HP / 252 Atk / 132 Spe
- Screech
- Head Smash
- Earthquake/Aqua Tail
- Magnet Rise

Similar to my previous set, only this time, Screech over Toxic. After a Screech, standard Skarmory is OHKO'd by Head Smash without SR up, so you can lower your Speed to outspeed 8 EV Scizor, as you do not have to outspeed to deal with Skarmory.

Screech can force a lot of switches, as Head Smash already hit most of the game for ridiculous damage, but Screech turns the few that could survive two hits into fodder (an example of the sheer power, 252/252 +Def Cresselia has a 58.97% chance of being OHKO'd after SR and Screech). As such, this Aggron set thoroughly enjoys having Toxic Spikes and SR up more than other sets.
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did you do the damage calcs with skarmory taking neutral damage or resisting HS? the reason that you have to outrun skarmory is that roost makes skarmory resist head smash, so you have to hit it before it can roost
 
itsbigfoot said:
did you do the damage calcs with skarmory taking neutral damage or resisting HS? the reason that you have to outrun skarmory is that roost makes skarmory resist head smash, so you have to hit it before it can roost
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IIrc, if at 100%, Roost doesn't do anything at all(similar to Rest), so after the first Roost, he can OHKO, which means Skarmory isn't getting anything done.
 
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